SLA reformation Topic

[Osi]

AA needs to be SSl nuff said.

[AncientAnubis]

I'm not really saying all that, I'm just saying there are several things that definitely need to work differently this time around if myself, and apparently Kjarkur, decide to join. I have my opinions of how a System Lord Alliance should represent itself.

[Reschef]

I'm also interested in joining, though I'll be watching first. I hope you'll publish some parts of your concepts as soon as they're prepared.



- Reschef

[Maha Vishnu]

I Maha Vishnu would suggest that those who are interested are given a forum link so that decisions can be discussed offline in the secret temple rather then open space where Tokra and the Tauri spy.

Maha Vishnu, 2iC Serpent Guard

[Tridentkilla]

most of them have the link, but for those that done, SLA.outlaw-inc.com/phpbb2

[Lord_Grant]

Greetings.

Below is a rough outline of what we are planning for the SLA...

First off. Upon the SLA's full reformation..that is when we are fully secured...I am going for one week after reforming. I will be stepping down as Supreme System Lord. I may still be nominated for SSL'ship if someone wishes. However with the new members I believe a FULL fresh start is required.
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Recruitment. Each SL will gain the bonus of havinga minor underneat him. Giving him a benefit to recruit. GENERAL recruiting will be done as well. If a number of the more notable Goauld join, we can point to having veteran players, having the backing of all Minor Goauld alliances. Being the official Goauld Alliance of SGW.

On a case-by-case basis the System Lord council can vote to give a new member a higher-ranking then the initial joining rank. Such as veteran players would not have to work up, but be given a higher rank initially. (Say a 4X ascended with 12 Mill army wouldn't have the rank of "Warrior", but instead Minor Goauld,etc.)
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Although all members will not be required to have Supporter Status to JOIN....If they wish to climb in rank they will need it. THis is to encourage new members to join the SLA. And then allow them to move up AFTER they ascend.
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Ranking layout. Not decided yet. That will be decided soon however. But input from potential joiners is appreciated. The least important of our worries is what to call the ranks... Our command structure, and the like are more important at the moment.
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Next. Organization buildup. First there will be a requirement that each member grow at least 10% a week. That I believe is fair. Someone with a 10 Million Army should be able to add another 1 Million. A member with 1 Million can add 100K easily. (EDIT...This is going to be worked on a little better to streamline it)

Anyone who does not grow for 2 weeks in a row will be pushed out of the alliance. With a couple exceptions. If you are extremely busy in R/L that is no excuse....Either quite playing SGW, or abandon other games you play. However short-term things. Such as Exam week at a school, a family member croaks, etc. those are valid.
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Chain of command/ Expansion teams.

The expansion teams will be somewhat differant. I was planning on returning to the Feudal System...WITH modifications. Each System Lord will have his "Chain" Behind him of minors. If a member joins and does not have a SystemLord ALREADY in mind the SL council will assign him to one. If he was recruited by a SL then he may serve that one...Gives a motivation to recruit. Now..each month there will be a month-long buildup. Each System Lord and his chain are a expansion unit.

The goal is to have the SystemLords boost themselves, help their minors, and force their minors to build. The SystemLord whos group grows the most in one month becomes 2nd in command of the SLA. Then he is 2nd-I-C for one month until that months buildup drive is over.

I belive this is a decent plan. 2nd-I-C is a honored thing. It will drive competition. And the SL's will weed out laziness, and the like to win. AND it re-inforces the Feudal system common to Goauld.
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Although each rank does have minimum requirements, a System Lord will have some perogative on promotions. It will be up to each SL to promote his minors as he see's fit (With obvious exceptions of jumping a slave to MinorGod range,while the minor only has a 1 Mill army).
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The C-O-C is as follows. SSL<2nd-I-C<SystemLords<That system Lords chain.

The minors of one System Lord do not have to follow orders from another in general, this is because of each SL's chain.. Exceptions would include wartime, SystemLords absence, or if the minor is becoming unruly within the alliance, or if the System Lord gives permission for his minors to become "Communally ordered" if needed.
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War-time attack plans.

When war comes all the System Lords chains will be temporarily dissolved. People will be grouped into attack teams that can be in the same timezone. For example. in -6GMT I am usually on the computer 10:30AM to 11:30AM. Anyone else who is on the computer at that time would be in my attack group.

In general the alliance will be a big attack unit. A few however will have specially built up Spy Lvl's for sabatoge,recon, and Anti-covert duties.

In preperation for war I am trying to think of a way to have a "AllainceBank" Someone who is willing to stockpile naquadah in their banks to rebuy ofensive weapons, repair weapons,MS etc. Like my bank holds 170 Bill right now..I could hold 170 BIll of the alliances Naq, Another with 150 BIll could store that much. Of course short-term they could use their bank for personal use, if saving for a spy Lvl,etc. (EDIT: A SLA member volunteered use of his bank. It is easily capable of holding the required amount).
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Suggestions and comments are welcome as to how to better effect these plans.
These are rough outlines. as the alliance becomes settled in (After the inital re-forming) the new System Lords (Added to the current SL's within the SLA) can help in streamlining the plans for better effeciancy, or modification of them and replacement with something else.

[Setesh]

I never joined the SLA, but if it means I'd get to be in the same alliance with Anubis, Kjarkur, and Ra once more, then count me in


-Setesh

[Setesh]

One other thing I couldn't help but add

DAMN. You only have a 170b bank?

[Legendary Apophis]

Mine stores like 685bil naq...

[Ra]

Mine stores like 685bil naq...

Mine stores like 10tril naq...

[AncientAnubis]

I miss my old account... >.<

[Nicholai Brocov]

Yeah I think those terms would work for the most part, especially the dissolvency of each chain to form strike teams and covert specialists. I've been in a previous alliance that did that and it was pretty efficient during war-times and they were almost always at war with someone ha ha.

Well then, the only thing I'd like to debate is how members would be pushed out of the alliance. I would prefer a 'suspension' policy should be made in order instead of just booting someone and never letting them back or however that might have worked. This would make people a lot less discouraged if they couldn't and didn't think to notify the alliance that they were going through something in R/L, came back and saw that they got the boot.

Don't get me wrong, in the true methodology of the goa'uld, if another goa'uld suddenly stopped showing his face in the galaxy, his realm would surely be fought over and the council would have no problem ordering sanctions that enhanced all the other system lords territories.

But the problem with that is, our hosts might object to this kind of policy in the long-term and it could hurt the SLA. I'd rather see a three strike policy put in place, if after three weeks no one has heard from a member or seen any activity on their account, if either is the case (not just both) they should be considered dead weight. BUT have been notified at least once each week both in-game and on the SLA forums to give them every opportunity to quell the concerns of the council. Each week that they do not become active on the forum and in-game should result in a loss of rank.
Until they eventually receive the rank of 'Dead Weight' and are suspended from the SLA in-game (but not the forums) for three weeks AFTER they return and if they wish to come back they must be active on the forums and post under their new rank 'Dead Weight' to make an example of them and how the Council rewards inactivity without cause or reason.

But I'd like more input on this policy, to address your other concerns which I may have overlooked in my original assessment of Grant's policy on inactivity.

That was the only problem that I had with what you were proposing Grant.

[Apadizamek]

Am i in or did i **Filtered** you over too much?

[AncientAnubis]

When you start to consider what Brocov put forward, you also have to consider the growth factor. When you reach a certain size and you have things to do, such as attending a university or living life in general, it gets hard to grow 10% weekly, unless your UP is good and your income is high enough to buy units. Now don't get me wrong, I'm as aggressive as anyone for growth, but if I'm not alliance material because I'm too active with my real life, then so be it. I'm just saying there might reach a point where I'm growing, but not quite at a 10% rate weekly.

[Tridentkilla]

well both myself and Grant agreed about the growth thing, and activity has been an issue in the past so idk, this is grant's idea, so im just giving ideas...