Severian wrote:SSG EnterTheLion wrote:http://www.omegan-empire.com/tleforum
To summarise, Blahh SUPPOSEDLY left the TLE, while still being an unofficial leader for the sole purpose of farming for any number of reasons, one of them being to accumulate naq to use against FUALL. And here we have been having the TLE crying foul about broken NAPs when they knew exactly what would happen.
You love your latin so much Blahh so would the term Primus inter parus be used to describe you. As according to your own definition "it may also be used to indicate that while the person described appears to be an equal, he actually is the group's unofficial or hidden leader". Describes you perfectly!
- Evidence of FUALL saving up enourmous resource reserves, buying out smaller alliances, approaching alliances they would normally have nothing to do with, stocking Banks, lifeforce and ATs. Selling or down scaling stats (i.e selling off to minimise damage), planets merlining and many other signs of intent of war.
Obviously we could see the tensions rising on the forums. Why get caught with our pants down?Who was making the abusive sigs, who was making threads in general attacking our players, who was making threads in general comparing TLE to all the wrongs committed by the CoP of past, who was making the outright threats? Who was running sanctioned smear campaigns? The tensions are wholly a product of your own actions. Do not try state it otherwise and do not try rewrite history.You missed the point. I did not say who's fault it was, I merely pointed out that the tension was increasing. It would be pretty stupid to leave huge amounts of killable uu out for you guys to kill when war was on the horizon. Don't you "educate" people for having lots of killable uu anyway. We are just playing the game by your standards....- Evidence of spying TLE accounts, getting recons on our stats & planets.
If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of one hundred battles...
Sun TzuQuoting Sun Tzu is not an excuse for open hostilities and essentially making a declaration of an intention for conflict.Spying is an open declaration of hostilities? I spy on my allies all the time when I am bored and I have nothing else to do.- Evidence of detailed plans being developed and drawn up, tactics discussed and how to go about it.
He who fails to plan, plans to fail.
ProverbsAs above. You were plotting for war, had your mind set on war, had been fighting a war on forums long before May and in your mind it had already happened, it only transferred to in game recently. We were willing to honour the Nap and had done no such things on the vast scale you had. Again, do not try justifying your actions to portray yourself as some innocents doing what they must or dragging TJP down to your level. While WE aren't knights in shining armour, we are most DEFINTELY a lighter shade of grey who are healthier for this server than you are.Yeah whatever. I am pointing out that we knew that the path we were walking would lead to war. We knew that it was coming. Anybody could see that if they read these forums. Just because the US and Israel are drawing up plans to invade Iran doesn't necessarily mean that they will, it just means that they are preparing for the possibility. - Outright statements by leaders within your empire saying war is comming.
- Mayhem betraying TLE, switches sides, their leaders admitting to feigning ignorance to grant you a political bullet to fire and openly admit to using Blahh and co for information for spying purposes on TJP, the alliances it comprised of and potential friends of TJP (Who funnily enough ended up getting hit prior to war).
- Increased sniper hits on TLE accounts on ascended, Radical minority appearing and Buck stating he is Omegan at heart and only hitting TLE not FUALL.
With that information available, TLE senate still decides to honour its NaP to the end and Blahh and Zesh leave; they’d been totally betrayed by Orph, knew war was being plotted against them, that FUALL were dancing a political game of cat and mouse and given the above decide they can no longer stand and do nothing about it. How dare they!
I can really see how FUALL and TJP are just as dirty as each other and how TJP is not united, are corrupt and plotted against FUALL to the same or greater extent that FUALL did towards them.
The other guy in the big long post said this: TJP and CIA were only reactionary to FUALL and predecessor actions against us. Actions which have in time over the past years have created strong bonds of opposition to FUALL.
If one remembers, we stated UNILATERALLY that when the CIA/CoP war was over, we'd disband our group. We stated, if another CoP was formed, we'd get back together, and we did just that.
No FUALL, No TJP
No CoP, No CIA
Isn't this saying that you were created only to fight FUALL? (you have been trying to deny this quite oftenNot created for but publically stated and expanded as a result. TA and TLE have had relations dating back to the CoP war. Publically declaring that relationship and subsequent small expansions WERE reactions to FUALL's massive expansions. Had we not kept up, what would the state of the server be? How long until we would have been hit with FUALL trying to erase us from the server? What would the chances be that today there would only be one super-power dominating and bullying the server? FUALL forced our hand in many actions and FUALL is responsible for the current state of things.That's right. We go around bullying and dominating and "educating" the server... oh wait I am confused./sarcasm.
The only thing this thread has done is reaffirmed the publics opinions of you Rhett and let your members know to what extents and lows you'll stoop to and just how dirty the political games you play are.
Because TJP is posting against us means that public opinion is against us? Please show evidence of non-TJP players posting about how this is dirty and low.I have enough PMs, msn messages, IRC messages and texts stating their support with what I post and that they share the same views. All non-TJP so yes, people voice their opinions where they feel safe but I will not betray what they confide in me. You’d be surprised where a lot of those voices are actually housed.You failed to break TJP in your opening strike.
All defenses destroyed that were not on ppt. Turned into farms for our enjoyment. what more could we possibly do with the way the game is set up?Defences destroyed and despite your overwhelming strike, TJP did not break. They did not fold, did not capitulate. They bounced back instead and brought the fight to you. They have heart and fight for purpose and did not collapse as many in your ranks had hoped and planned. They wished we were disorganised, that we wouldn’t be in a position after the strike to launch co-ordinated attacks and had hoped that the blow to TJP would be the only true one needed.And how is that a surprise? If you have huge miner reserves, big bank sizes and plenty of resources an opening strike can only do so much. How can we collapse your alliance when the very nature of the game prohibits us from doing so?Your investment failed in portraying yourselves as good and us as bad.
You are losing members; people are splintering off and no longer listening.
same on both sides.Not quite on an equal basis, you have entire alliance splinters and losing core members due to fundamental ideological differences as well as runners from war. You are faced with an entire identity crisis, TJP however are not facing such an issue. We both have runners but the complex issues tearing an empire apart are unique to your side.Your empire cannot survive a war of attrition which is what this is turning into.
The community and your own players are starting to realise the long term repercussions of this war and how dangerous a FUALL victory is to the server.
You have 71 Runners already, all noted and recorded.
You have another 47 on top of that “hiding” in vacation.
and you have full alliances of people that refuse to vacation and are just farms. It seems to me that the alliance with the most uu is The Legion, but they are doing the least of the fighting. Care to point out why this is?The Legion is a European branch, the month of June is a period of examinations and as our players are predominately university students, you'll find that they have been away with exams. You'll also note that now exams are over, that activity picks up. One can say the exact same thing about your empire and how the historically core players do nothing while any activity are done by the new additions.
When you factor in we did not spend months planning this war and that this particular time was our weakest moment due to real life circumstances, I’d be willing to bet that pound for pound, our organisation and activity surpasses FUALLs. The fact is, you are looking at each alliance as individual entities who have to do all tasks. Instead we are acting as a single entity, organising ourselves as a coalition with each player doing their part rather than all alliances trying to do all things. We are organising and using a collective strength rather than letting all people attempt to do all things and therein lies our differnce with FUALL.That’s a good 118 accounts of the mighty and fundamentally unbreakable alliance out of commission. I can really see how TJP are failing, that they’re not doing anything that they’re as weak, disorganised and paralysed by factionalism as you make them out to be.
and your big accounts do nothing but get farmed and raided while your small allies fight for you...Inaccurate in context, a few are inactive but largely everyone is doing their part. See above.So what do you do Rhett, where do you go, how can you rally the troops and where can you try take the war so you can try winning it given that you aren’t gaining any ground in game.
Everyone knows what this thread is and what it is for. You have further soiled whatever honour and virtue that is left in your empire.
I think we've established I have no idea what you're talking about.
