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Re: To all the Mafia-gang-like Alliances out there

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:57 am
by I Am Thor
dear god, is everyone always this heartless?

Re: To all the Mafia-gang-like Alliances out there

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:00 am
by Brdavs
Shornaal wrote:
Brdavs wrote:We indeed hereby concede loosing the race to drop 1/2 of our members first. Congrats and well done.

You done now? With the crazy-talk I mean?


I guess it must be hard for you to come to facts that your once proud empire has been defeated and driven into inactivity. Only your part time allies help you save face.

Surrender before you face disbanding before the mighty Omegan Empire.


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Seriously, :lol:. And the trully hillarious thing is you actually hit the nail on the head if youre talking about Omega itself. Once "creme a la creme" - now way deader than TL (irony galore :P) with mayhem & AEU do the grinding that gets done on your "empire"s part. :P

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Commrade Mao, I concur. :D

Re: To all the Mafia-gang-like Alliances out there

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:33 am
by Borek
unfortunately for you i am in Omega, and on my own i am more active than the 400+ players in your pact, so sorry, you fail again.

Re: To all the Mafia-gang-like Alliances out there

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:41 am
by Shornaal
@Brdavs
I dont think anyone can beat your sides inactivity.
The only active element is held together by propaganda.
When you end comes we will hold no mercy for any of you.

Re: To all the Mafia-gang-like Alliances out there

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:40 am
by Brdavs
Well borek you certainly think of yourself more than 400+ ppl do combined, I`ll give you that lol. The "super ego" contest you win, but hey that was never in doubt, you`d have to be mentally challenged to even think of trying to take that ribbon away form the blue greek team :P.

Borek if your activity is the one of 400 ppl you`d need 2000 people to say hit me once per day in the last 10 days :lol:

but seriosly, atm, TL has more ppl kicking around than Omega does. Burn. :P

Re: To all the Mafia-gang-like Alliances out there

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:58 am
by Borek
Yup, you certainly do have more inactive farms than we do, i thank you sincerely for that fact.

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Re: To all the Mafia-gang-like Alliances out there

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:08 am
by 12agnar0k
MajorLeeHurts wrote:So I beg of you end the server war start the rebuild and the race to rank 1. You are all warriors and your thrones await.

Fix this shattered reality once and for all.


Lol FS preaching for some stat building, my you lot are odd.

Re: To all the Mafia-gang-like Alliances out there

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:45 am
by papa~smurf
12agnar0k wrote:
MajorLeeHurts wrote:So I beg of you end the server war start the rebuild and the race to rank 1. You are all warriors and your thrones await.

Fix this shattered reality once and for all.


Lol FS preaching for some stat building, my you lot are odd.


your getting kinda obsesive about us, there are self help group for that

What the major is saying is, that a lot of the page one allaince right now have no real war experince behind them (tec as an example: was rank 6, at war....what like 126 now ?) That page one should be won, fought for, not build into. dON'T MISS UNDERSTAND ME, NOTHING WRONG OR CORRUPT ABOUT THOSE ON PAGE ONE, BUT SOONER OR LATER, PUSH WILL COME TO SHOVE, AND LIKE TEC, WILL BE IN A POSTION TO SHOW IF THEY CAN HOLD IT. (sorry, hit cap lock, didn't notice, no need for shouting)

Re: To all the Mafia-gang-like Alliances out there

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:32 am
by Durza_The_Shade
Travis9x wrote:I was really enjoying this game (been playing faithfully ever since I started over a month ago)...until I began to see the petty, "shoot first, ask questions later", "hit one of us for ANY reason, and we'll all mass you without any warning or investigation first", mafia mob-like behavior that so many of the "alliances" display.

Several times, all in a single day, my realm has been the victim of such behavior. I have been massed, blackmailed, massed again, the recipient of extortionist threats, and massed yet again...and again...and again. Why? I don't knowingly bother anyone...I try to keep to myself, quietly farming only the inactive players out there. I have tried from day one to "play it safe", and not cross anyone for any reason. I participate on these boards, and try to always keep a good sense of humor about things (like the spy bug on the Quantum server, for example...man, the number of failed attacks that lead me into, lol...).

It seemed to be going very well, all the way up to my first ascension, with only one incident which, I have to say, was simply the result of my really not knowing any better (still being so new to the game at the time). Shortly after my first ascension, it seemed at first to still be going rather well for me. I continued as I did before, still keeping quietly to myself, trying my best to not attack any active players, and enjoying the differences in my newly ascended race. If I saw any hint of activity in a player that I was farming, I would immediately send him/her a message, explaining that if they are actually active, to simply tell me and I would immediately stop, and set them to peace.
All I ever wanted, was simply to be shown the same respect that I gave to everyone else.
But apparantly, there are several out there who believe in not showing anyone outside of their "alliance" any respect whatsoever.

Go figure that these people also happen to be some of the strongest players, all grouped together.

It started first when I got a message from someone, simply asking me to explain why I was attacking (farming) someone they know. I replied that I thought they were innactive, but had already noticed that I was wrong, had already stopped farming him, and would set to peace as soon as the 24 hours were up. I thought that would be the end of it...I couldn't have been more wrong. A moment later, I recieved another message, a little less polite, asking pretty much the same thing about the same player, but also demanding a fast response. I obliged, with the same explaination, and same promise to set peace. Then a third message came, this time demanding reparations for the damages caused, under threat of massing. The "reparations" being demanded were at least ten times the value of any losses I may have caused. I replied that I would not pay such ludicrous amounts, but promised that I would go my way in peace, and only wished to be shown the same respect. I got the reply that he/they would indeed show me the same respect. Again, I thought it was over.
Not five minutes later, someone much farther up the "ranks" of their so-called alliance (gang of thugs, is a much more accurate description) has already massed me with nearly 100 attacks. My losses were staggering, especially by comparison to any damage I may have initially caused their comrade. After they finished, they had the audacity to say they believed they were now even with me (as if 2 trillion worth of damage could hardly be equal to a few billion), and offered to let me join their little mob.
Why, for the love of all that is good & holy, would I want to join a group that had just dealt with me in such a despicable and underhanded manner?

Several very laborous hours of rebuilding later, another very similar altercation occured. This time, there was not even any kind of warning or message beforehand. They just attacked, en masse, from at least three different directions. I begged for an explaination, some kind of reason for the assault, and all they said was that I had been farming one of theirs, during wartime, calling me a vulture, assassin, and all sorts of things that certainly come nowhere near to describing me or what I have been trying to do. I had no indication whatsoever that any of my carefully selected "farms" was actually part of an alliance at war. For all intensive purposes, he was just another of the thousands of inactive players...zero defense, a couple hundred thousand UU lying out in the open, and almost exactly 5k unused turns...a textbook example of an inactive player, and not a single sign of life the entire time I had been farming him (several hours upon hours, as I was still trying to recover from the last massing). I tried to explain this to them, that I had no idea, that all they had to do was simply ask me to stop, and I would have been happy to, that there was absolutely no need whatsoever for what they had done to me...but they were not even remotely sorry. They just kept calling me names, throwing accusations around, and saying they were perfectly justified in what they had done, and that the hundreds of attacks I had recieved in my logs was enough of a notice or warning to stop farming one of theirs (a really silly justification, considering that I had not be farming anyone for nearly an hour...I was in the process of searching for another "safe" inactive player to add to my farm list...go figure).

A large point I need to make, is this...I am not so much upset about the massing itself (as that is just a way of life in this game...it happens every now and then, no matter how careful you are). What I am upset about, is the way in which these gangs of thugs have dealt with me. All I have ever asked, was to be shown a modecum of the respect that I try so hard to show everyone else. I have been utterly crippled without any advance warning, notice, explaination, or communication whatsoever, under absolutely baseless accusations and assumptions...I have been blackmailed, promised to be left in peace, backstabbed, and kicked while I was already down.

This is not a farewell notice. I am not going to delete my account, abbandon the game, or go cry in a corner over this. I simply want to make it known what is going on here, and bring to light (if it has not already been done so) the horribly loathesome behavior of some of the most well-known "alliances" in this community.

And people wonder why I preffer to remain un-aligned with anyone. Humph. *shakes head*

In the first example I gave (in which I was massed even after I had already explained what happened, and after being told that I would be left alone), most of the exchange that occured before the massing was between me and the "victim"s brother (Rikky), and CO (named "brother")...however, the massing was carried out by a "friend" of the CO, who happens to be someone who is already well-known for extortion, bullying, and blackmail. This is none other than Mezzanine, of the mob/gang better known as Forgotten Serenity. As you can see, their area of influence reaches much farther than their actual alliance membership.

In the second example I gave, the act of attrition was carried out entirely by three members of MaYHeM...namely, Yoyo, Noobert, and Xeen, although a fourth member had to chime in with a few comments of his own (though he did not actively attack).

Are these gangs really so bored, that they have nothing better to do than grind an innocent into the dirt, for a simple misunderstanding? Are they so eager to inflict pain and suffering, that they will attack without any kind of investigation or questioning (or in the one case, even after clearly understanding what had actually happened, still decide to destroy anyway)?

As I said in the beginning, I really enjoy this game. I am a big StarGate fan, and play the game as I would act in real life. I show respect to everyone around me, and do my best to deal with everyone justly, and fairly. So it greatly dissapoints me, when I am shown the complete opposite in return. *sigh* I guess I'm just going to have to be even more careful than I already am...I guess I am going to have to send every single potentially "safe" farm a message, before I even begin farming, on the off chance that they might be part of an alliance at war. Knowing the way these "alliances" behave, however...they'll probably still accuse me of vulturing, promise to set me peace, and then mass me anyway.


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Re: To all the Mafia-gang-like Alliances out there

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:32 am
by Darkalbino_
dont go without pants though.

Re: To all the Mafia-gang-like Alliances out there

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:56 am
by 12agnar0k
Papa I read what she was saying and I understood it, but she was asking them to build stats (thats how you get rank 1.) which seems kind of odd thing to say for a group of people that hate stat builders. (Thats what being rank 1. means)

Papa If I wanted to put the Alliance on page 1. Its easy enough to do, but it serves little point, Alliance Rank has never been a technocracy goal, actually their was something about it at one point but it was never my goal :P and not technocracies main goal, this was growth and when your growing (as apposed to sucking like FS ;p) with growth comes stats.
In war you can build up your rank although their is no point, any true player of old who knows the game knows that rank means nothing. I do wish you'd stop going on about it, it makes you look like a total bunch of noobs. P.s when I looked for your alliance a few days back it was page 6 as well, (under tech) - as it has been for most of the war. Not that it matters its just your tech low rank point is kind of mute when you also have no rank to speak of, not that it was ever viable as some kind of basis for FS doing a good job.

I'm not obssessed with FS, who made a thread about who, thats right you made a thread about technocracy and your crusade againt these evil extorters (untrue) must of thought of us as competition for your extorting (true). If anyone's obessed its you lot, about technocracy.

Oh and I think all of FS is obbsessed with me personally its 12ag this and 12ag that, geez you'd think I was the only person from technocracy posting in the forums or something. I Dont Want To Marry Any Of You, now please stop stalking me.

Re: To all the Mafia-gang-like Alliances out there

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:44 am
by papa~smurf
there u go archetyping again lol

Re: To all the Mafia-gang-like Alliances out there

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 9:55 am
by 12agnar0k
But what a graceful true correct and unflawed archetype it is.

Re: To all the Mafia-gang-like Alliances out there

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:14 am
by papa~smurf
ya............right..........sure...............ok

Re: To all the Mafia-gang-like Alliances out there

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:38 am
by 12agnar0k
thanks for agreeing with me :D :-D