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I must ask people to stop attacking the remnants of the Vongolan alliance. These are people who, like me, want to know the truth from Tsuna, and who believe they'll never find out unless they stay a while. They have at no point stated their support or their allegiance to him. The main attackers are
Crying Nooooo (Genesis)
Aphrael78 (Devils Brigade)
Jokerzx (Dominium of Oblivion)
Rube Dragon (Dominium of Chaos).
There are plenty of others too.

Look, I know you want Tsuna, and you're irritated because you can't reach him, but we have all been even more deceived than you. We don't deserve to be massed like this. Please stop this

By the way GunZ, may I ask what assistance you were offering?

I don't believe it should be too hard to defend against a 2m strike.

What's the point of rebuilding if it's all going to get massed over and over again? We have no means of attack and we do not pose a threat. The whole point of this is to punish Tsuna, but right not he couldn't care less what's happening to the rest of us. This isn't punishing him, this is punishing those who have been deceived the most by him. This isn't right jokerzx and I need you to please stop

If you want to stop all attacks as a result of Tsuna (which mine are not...) you always have to option to leave the alliance and create a new one (though not the best outcome which I can understand...).

Alternatively, if the one remaining person in your alliance that is on my list wants my attacks to stop all they have to do is build a minuscule defence (which wouldn't even be worth massing...). It's really not that much to ask.

I want to leave the alliance, but if I want Tsuna to explain himself then I must stay. If he hands over the alliance to me then I can use the alliance funds to help rebuild, there's a fair amount in there. That would be the best option.

As for building a tiny defence, I really don't think that would stop someone as powerful as you! lol

Migstaxe wrote:I want to leave the alliance, but if I want Tsuna to explain himself then I must stay.

Really? If you stay and he actually comes back which i doubt he will he is unlikely to explain anything. Probably just deny it, his word against ours.

Migstaxe wrote:If he hands over the alliance to me then I can use the alliance funds to help rebuild, there's a fair amount in there. That would be the best option.

Erm no it wouldn't because you can't use the funds to rebuild. You can't take the naq out of the bank like you can your own bank.

Migstaxe wrote:As for building a tiny defence, I really don't think that would stop someone as powerful as you! lol

Joker just said that all you need to do for him to stop farming you is build a defence bigger than his 2m strike.... surely you aren't saying he is lieing?

Dude, best thing for you to ever do is leave that alliance and start a fresh new one.

You're right he is likely to deny everything, but I want to know. If he comes back and doesn't leave me the alliance then I will leave. You may think that foolish, and it may well be, but I want to give him a chance to come clean, otherwise it is certain that we will never know the complete truth about his actions and motives.

I've not been alliance leader for a few years now, well before alliance banks were around, so I have no idea how they work. I assumed alliance leader would be able to use those funds at will.

I never said he was lying, lol. Merely stating my surprise that such a small defence would put him off.

Migstaxe wrote:By the way GunZ, may I ask what assistance you were offering?

Speak to me privately on MSN or via pms...this is not the place for that conversation.

Migstaxe wrote:These are people who, like me, want to know the truth from Tsuna, and who believe they'll never find out unless they stay a while.

With all respect mate, waiting around for a proven impostor and liar to tell you the ''truth '' is a fools errand. Nothing he says could be trusted. He lied to you and built TUF on a lie. Why now think such a person would find the virtue in being honest?

It's the only thing he's got left. Also I've been his close friend for the last few months, if he tells anyone the truth it will be me. I want to know. You're probably right, it's a fools errand, but I hope that you're wrong on this one. I think it's worth a shot. Just because you've lied once doesn't mean you'll keep doing, and sometimes it makes you feel better to confide in someone.
I certainly won't wait forever though

OK just so you guys know, I've taken your advice and created an alliance along with others called (for now) Timescape. The name may change in future. We'll be trying to gather old Vongola recruits, but I stress we are not Tsuna supporters. We're leaving that behind. Thanks for your advice guys

Best of luck

Migstaxe wrote:OK just so you guys know, I've taken your advice and created an alliance along with others called (for now) Timescape. The name may change in future. We'll be trying to gather old Vongola recruits, but I stress we are not Tsuna supporters. We're leaving that behind. Thanks for your advice guys

My respect to you for your decision, and my great hopes for your new alliance.

I am quite well pleased with the result of all this. Five days ago TUF was 5 alliances and 114 members strong. Today a mere handful remains, and they are now cannon fodder at best.
I made a statement of conviction in defense of the legacy of an old friend that some took as out of line, some understood, and others thought it all just theatrics. To be honest, I did not care what the reaction was going to be…I absolutely meant 100 % of it.

I do not think for a minute 100 people quit an alliance out of fear of me. I absolutely was prepared to war them all, but it did not come to that.
I think my threat simply focused those members on concerns or suspicions they held previously.I think wise people do the wise thing most of the time.
I think what happened would have happened in due course on its own steam.

A house of cards built on a lie cannot stand the truth when confronted with it. Good people made good decisions and in the process I met some new people and maybe even made some new friends.

I truly think you will be better alliances now. I appreciate the leadership and members of Expansion, Alteran, and Technocracy for so quickly moving on and moving away from Tsuna . I am not sure what happened to the 20 members of Cervello. To the new Timescape alliance I wish you Godspeed.

I wish you all the best. I thank you for responding so quickly and so honorably. I offer you all my best wishes and my help – should you ever need it.

I have no desire to raise my attack as it currently stands and therefore the defence would 'put me off' as you said.

Anyway, best of luck with the new alliance.