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This is an issue because you chose to take vengeance upon us for actions which were not under our control. Can't tell people to make peace who aren't yours to command.

You chose to make this a situation between yourself and TAF. We had no interest in conflict. Now, of course, you have massed those who were your friends and this is something we will all have to deal with for the foreseeable future. These are the consequences of your actions. No others. We could have struck against you or TL when, as a TL Senator, you threatened to drop tags and mass TAF on numerous occasions in the past couple months. Out of respect for this friendship and our history, and because we respond to actions, not idle threats, we waited for you to make this step.

So again, c'est la vie. Kill em all.

Exactly... those relations will never return to that stage they were befeore this. I knew it and decided to chose this path. Only I will ever understand it. Am not awaiting you o agree with me, but at least, dont blame TL. If i wanted, I could mix things and tricks to start war alliance wide... I did respect others wishis, to kep friendships.

Dont decide to end all those relations because of my actions... It was the only reason why I left TL.


PS: whenever in future, if sometimes someone will organize against TAF a big coalition or cretaes a pact... I will gladly join your side again but only if these things wont go worse not that am epecting someone to do such thing... just something like janus pact was... sort of that thing...


sounds weird

I think mH did a fine job of leveling most if not all of TAF casuals 4-5 months back. It really isn't a big deal to get flattened. Nobody seems to get particularly butt hurt about this sort of thing. I am curious now if *peg was under your control when it smashed BioFlick's massive D right as the war ended. That was really bizarre! Any cool back story on that one?

As for busting out credit cards and liquidating PayPal balances I don't predict a whole lot of that on TAF's end. I for one would rather tuck away a few quads for the next proper conflict and not invest too heavily in fiddle fart ego warfare. He said, she said, this person doesn't like this person so they attacked some other person, blah blah blah. I deal with that enough outside of game lol.

BMMJ13 wrote:As I said before, it's not a question of if it was you, it's a question of how long TL knew you were doing what you were doing and why did you chose Norbe. I really do enjoy your attempts to play it off as not you though and still await your answer.

Indeed, it is a curious fact that I was your first target in TAF months ago c2. I asked at the time, and was told the massing happened beacause of being "paid to mass a farm".

And funny enough, despite your promises to keep massing me, my defense is still standing nearly three months later.

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On a side note: When any diplomatic issues occur that I am involved with, I am usually very good at asking myself "if I was them, would I have made the same decision?" Almost always I can see why the decisions were made, and sometimes I even agree I would have taken the same course of actions. In this case though c2, I can honestly say your choices to mass TÅF as you have done consistently for the past few months, are baffling. You were the one who provoked OFIS, and TÅF HC told them to stop or leave. Buco left, AG Thor tried to stay out of it until you massed him too, when he left us.

Then, after not much time at all, you try to mass me, followed by massing some other TÅF members. We kept your multi down and stopped you being able to do much damage, so now you decide to leave TL with your main and try with that.

At no point here have TÅF done anything to provoke this. We have only been defending ourselves from your insane actions. This is further proven by the fact we have not taken action against TL, when many others would have done in our position.

Bizarrely, I missed the point that you are *pegasus even after you massed me back then. I have done nothing but be friendly in every way over the years, so I didn't even think to make that connection. As soon as I realised you do not care for your friends, it was obvious and I spotted what you had done.

~Norbe~

Well... this and that... led to this:

On behalf of Me, Myself and Elisabeth,... Irena sorry...

I want to apologize for which path I choosed to sort issues between us (TAF, me) and otheres (OFIS, TL)
I want to apologize to all my friends in TAF for beeing bad boy. Sometimes its needed and you know am trigerhappy maad baaaad boy.
I will set all TAF peace till christmass, and later wont be massing/raiding/conquering theyr members (exept a case when I see a 300m UU free raid - j/k)

Now, when ALL issues are sorted, I wish you good luck in anything you want to reach.

PS: as I sayd on skype, my NG multi will set peace also... one day... but I wont do any hostile activities with my multi as well.

PS2: TL Senators, please answer the proposal to GM/buco ASAP... how you decided. Its up to you guys now to decide on this.

PS3: Mods, give this another 24 hours and than close it please.

PS4: anyone who do not agree with this end, hit me up in the vedneta corner

Glad to see a good resolution to this. Best of luck in the future hopefully all hurt ties can slowly be mended.

Some massing was done! Congratz zo TA and c2 for putting up some nice massing. Now let's enjoy in peace

C2 YOU PANSY!! NO SURRENDER!!

caesar2 wrote:Well... this and that... led to this:

On behalf of Me, Myself and Elisabeth,... Irena sorry...

I want to apologize for which path I choosed to sort issues between us (TAF, me) and otheres (OFIS, TL)
I want to apologize to all my friends in TAF for beeing bad boy. Sometimes its needed and you know am trigerhappy maad baaaad boy.
I will set all TAF peace till christmass, and later wont be massing/raiding/conquering theyr members (exept a case when I see a 300m UU free raid - j/k)

Now, when ALL issues are sorted, I wish you good luck in anything you want to reach.

PS: as I sayd on skype, my NG multi will set peace also... one day... but I wont do any hostile activities with my multi as well.

PS2: TL Senators, please answer the proposal to GM/buco ASAP... how you decided. Its up to you guys now to decide on this.

PS3: Mods, give this another 24 hours and than close it please.

PS4: anyone who do not agree with this end, hit me up in the vedneta corner

cheers... happy as you listened to me and finally its over .. have fun in ur future ventures

Few afder my little attck last night and seeing you build straight afder i thought ohh ohh,glad its all sorted thoe

im happy with friends not fighting eachother anymore

As usual, Caesar goes crazy after eating dogs.