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LOL, It is a game, have fun I say. Mass whom ever you want. It has always been that way.

If you want to mass players expect retribution at some point, even if you have a top alliance or a coalition of alliances.

Can we all get back to the war that everyone saw coming and not end it to soon.

Honestly, when this war is over there are going to be 12 alliances or so with nothing to lose and a few players not in a hurry to going back to bank and build.

COP and CIA players are the SAME. If they weren't then they would be off in some other alliance watching and being shaved occasionally like a good sheep.

The COP and CIA coalitions were different, but now it appears the COP one is becoming more like the CIA less centralized authority, while the CIA one becomes more experienced in battle. So now they probably are a lot alike especially to an outsider. I have no Idea what their Coalition Forum is like. Our main one is probaly an open book but no real secrets there.

The differences are very minor. And, I really no longer give a damm about comments made by the few posters not playing anylonger and also those not actually in the war.

So JS may be correct, the longer this war last the more CIA will emulate COP. But, now and after the war, non COP alliances do not have to worry about going to war with any CIA member alliance and having 6 others joining against them. If that point is not 100% clear then there is noting more any of us can say on the matter.

Nor should they expected to be extorted (reparations although not really good, isn't extortion, I mean uu/naq or you get pounded type thing, which is extortion)

Nor should they fear that if some attack happens to this or that, and were in a negotiations phase to remedy the situation. We wouldn't have other people mass them during the negotiations. One alliance says, we didn't do it, you still have to pay, the other ones get an easy out.

Nor should they......

I agree thufir, if people don't understand why we fight yet, and that we aren't kidding with how we feel about what's been done to us, then I guess there is nothing more to say as the info is out there in harvest amounts for people to read and assimilate if they have a mind to do so.

If people don't want to learn the facts, or don't recognize them, it's not our fault.

Don't use CIA is = to CoP as a crutch.

J.S. wrote:This thread is to celebrate you becoming just like CoP in your own views..

Congratulations!!!!

1. Massing somone becuase they are helping your enemy
2. Massing somone becuase they are ensuring your enemy becomes more powerful then you
3. Boasting on the forums about how your winning a war when if you noticed your actually not.
4. Spying on other peoples forums
5. Threathening/coaxing neutral alliance members into joining the war.

Congratulations and rejoice everyone in the new NEW GA.. Robe has finally gotten what she wanted.. To be a leader in a major super alliance..

I finally have lost ALL respect for any CIA member.. I don't care what your relation is with me anymore, but the longer your acting like what you say you hate the more respect I will lose for you..

Good day

Jamie

Bloody brilliant man. well stated, im glad someone thinks the same about this stupid conflict. i did not have to read the rest of the thread to know that after the first brilliant post, the rest degraded to utter crap fast. Kudos man!

caNcer_b0y wrote:

J.S. wrote:This thread is to celebrate you becoming just like CoP in your own views..

Congratulations!!!!

1. Massing somone becuase they are helping your enemy
2. Massing somone becuase they are ensuring your enemy becomes more powerful then you
3. Boasting on the forums about how your winning a war when if you noticed your actually not.
4. Spying on other peoples forums
5. Threathening/coaxing neutral alliance members into joining the war.

Congratulations and rejoice everyone in the new NEW GA.. Robe has finally gotten what she wanted.. To be a leader in a major super alliance..

I finally have lost ALL respect for any CIA member.. I don't care what your relation is with me anymore, but the longer your acting like what you say you hate the more respect I will lose for you..

Good day

Jamie

Bloody brilliant man. well stated, im glad someone thinks the same about this stupid conflict. i did not have to read the rest of the thread to know that after the first brilliant post, the rest degraded to utter crap fast. Kudos man!

No it's not stupid conflict it's just people who want the one sided game to stop

Nice to see Jamie loyal to the end, as one of those close to Jamie since he started the game, yes I am that evil commander that terrorised him by giving him all that naq for all those spy levels, that Jamie decided to preach about. Anyway my point is Jamie you have your views and well meh I couldn't care less of what you think, I know trully who you are but I wont tell the nice public, I will leave it to them to work out why you stab your friends in teh back. I mean the giving EPA secrets to members of CoP(yes I have proof), the constant anti-EPA post ON THE EPA FORUM but if that wasn't enough you stole an alliance from our confederation but again meh I don't care.

What really pisses me off is that you preach about being mass-happy, well the biggest war in SGW history was at your door step and you ran, don't give me that crap about you having friends on both side, you were EPA and seeing as you were a member of EPA i would expect you to back us up but you didn't. Thats your choice, I can handle that but if you want to run like a girl and preach to CIA and the rest of SGW about a war your not even involved in well..that just isn't right, you may see this is as a neutral but you are seeing it with your CoP tinted glasses on.

You are one cheeky git pretending that CIA's reason for massing is crap, you used to mass people for much less, you even tried to cause a divide in EPA with your stupid reasons for massing. Just for all you experts in analysis out there(yes EtL I mean you) this isn't internal division are any of that politcal crap, it is a friend washing his hands of another.

P.S. For all that neutrals make out both sides are big baddies I believe both sides are playing fair, keep up the fair play.

Just one question Jamie? After all my help at teh start of the game and Stoney buying you Spy Level 27/28(not sure which but the point is Stoney made a huge sacrifice) amoung loads of other things we helped you with, what is it that makes you hate EPAc and CIA as a whole?

Experts in analysis like EtL... why does that remind me of bench quarterbacking?
Hehe... shall we eat them up, mr. EPAc fellow warrior?

"COP and CIA players are the SAME. If they weren't then they would be off in some other alliance watching and being shaved occasionally like a good sheep."

This much I a willing to concede. Both sides have a backbone.
Other comparisons do not hold to much scrutiny.

"For all that neutrals make out both sides are big baddies I believe both sides are playing fair, keep up the fair play."

This is true of the battles, but I suspect the neutrality you mention.
There are a couple who have stepped out of bounds of decent play, but the vast majority have fought honorably. I mean on both sides.

The rest can be proud of the service to their alliances.

I didn't like you from the start, Sheehan, and i never hid that. Looks like my instinct was correct. Anyway, i ask myself how could this crap of a thread reach page 10, since this is only another one of your little attention seeking projects.

*shrugs and looks away*

)GrimReaper( wrote:I didn't like you from the start, Sheehan, and i never hid that. Looks like my instinct was correct. Anyway, i ask myself how could this crap of a thread reach page 10, since this is only another one of your little attention seeking projects.

*shrugs and looks away*

Well I never knew you didn't like me.. Oh well.. And you joined EPA after me.. Funny that isn't it..

Pele wrote:Nice to see Jamie loyal to the end, as one of those close to Jamie since he started the game, yes I am that evil commander that terrorised him by giving him all that naq for all those spy levels, that Jamie decided to preach about. Anyway my point is Jamie you have your views and well meh I couldn't care less of what you think, I know trully who you are but I wont tell the nice public, I will leave it to them to work out why you stab your friends in teh back. I mean the giving EPA secrets to members of CoP(yes I have proof), the constant anti-EPA post ON THE EPA FORUM but if that wasn't enough you stole an alliance from our confederation but again meh I don't care.

What really pisses me off is that you preach about being mass-happy, well the biggest war in SGW history was at your door step and you ran, don't give me that crap about you having friends on both side, you were EPA and seeing as you were a member of EPA i would expect you to back us up but you didn't. Thats your choice, I can handle that but if you want to run like a girl and preach to CIA and the rest of SGW about a war your not even involved in well..that just isn't right, you may see this is as a neutral but you are seeing it with your CoP tinted glasses on.

You are one cheeky git pretending that CIA's reason for massing is crap, you used to mass people for much less, you even tried to cause a divide in EPA with your stupid reasons for massing. Just for all you experts in analysis out there(yes EtL I mean you) this isn't internal division are any of that politcal crap, it is a friend washing his hands of another.

P.S. For all that neutrals make out both sides are big baddies I believe both sides are playing fair, keep up the fair play.

Just one question Jamie? After all my help at teh start of the game and Stoney buying you Spy Level 27/28(not sure which but the point is Stoney made a huge sacrifice) amoung loads of other things we helped you with, what is it that makes you hate EPAc and CIA as a whole?

Missed this one.. But ok

Scott yes its true you know me, but we haven't really talked in months.. And yes a few months ago I shared the CoP hating views as shared by the EPAc... Yes I know secrets, but I didn't give any away to either side..

Why did I abandon the EPAc? well thats a great question ask Brian what happened before the war? When I gave my opinion on the war.. Getting banned completely from the forums.. That was nice.. In fact I loved the EPA.. I really did.. It was when I got the short end of a stick, like the time I gave PK 100 bil naq after echo took it from her.. Ye kicked up a stink.. but if you go back to the post I made I said it would help EPA by having the foundation as an ally.. And what happened a NAP was formed which most likely helped to the current situation.. I was intenionally left out of all preparations for the war.. Then i got banned from being in a part of this war.. I pulled the hive out becuase I was no longer in a democarcy more like a dictatorship.. That is not the EPA i joined..

You know I didn't want to go to war, not becuase I was "afraid" I mean the WORST they can do is mass you, take all your planets, kill all your spies.. I fail to see how that is a threat.. I didn't want to go to war Scott becuase that would make EPA look like cowards as I said before pissing on the great players of EPA like wolf, jase, salvo and gus who you also kicked from command becuase he didn't agree with your ideals.. That is when I stopped liking EPA and my "anti-EPA" posts you claim I made so much about.. They where trying to get the EPA back on track to what it was when I joined.. Not the current jumping on the dogpile after the dirty work is done <modded> that they have done now..

Pele I don't hate you and I don't hate anyone in CIA or EPAc.. What I hate is when you critise CoP for using their tactics and then using them yourselves and then not actually sticking to what you believe it..

Lets put this into perspective with America (my favourite example country) if the Republicians said no on terror and then started killing off all the terrorists.. Then the Democrats came into power and said ok well lets use terrorist attacks on people in these countries.. What do you think would happen? There would be outcry.. The same here.. CIA are using the VERY tactics they condemned in the first place except now it benefits CIA and not CoP..

As for the EPA helping me out.. It was you scott while we where TAA, and Criag mostly... And if he ever wants his stuff back I will gladly give it to him as well as you..

I am loyal to my friends always have and always will be.. I know who my friends are..

J.S. wrote: Why did I abandon the EPAc? well thats a great question ask Brian what happened before the war? When I gave my opinion on the war.. Getting banned completely from the forums.. That was nice.. In fact I loved the EPA.. I really did.. It was when I got the short end of a stick, like the time I gave PK 100 bil naq after echo took it from her.. Ye kicked up a stink.. but if you go back to the post I made I said it would help EPA by having the foundation as an ally.. And what happened a NAP was formed which most likely helped to the current situation.. I was intenionally left out of all preparations for the war.. Then i got banned from being in a part of this war.. I pulled the hive out becuase I was no longer in a democarcy more like a dictatorship.. That is not the EPA i joined..

You were locked out of the EPAc Senate because we were talking about need to know only information on the start of the war, since you had already said the Hive would not fight... you did not need to know. I had suggested that we move this that talk to a subsection with in the Senate that was just for the war, so that those that were still part of the senate but not in the war could still post. However after suggesting this I found out you had been banned. Which worked out just as well since the Hive was all but out of the EPAC by that time.

"Getting banned completely from the forums.. That was nice....
It was when I got the short end of a stick...
I was intenionally left out...
Then i got banned ... from the war..."

This explains a lot. I was wondering what your emotional investment in all this was. You got your feelings hurt.

Dude, you are carrying a grudge. Let it go. You don't need them. Leave it be. Quit condemning CIA because some one in it kicked you out of their little club.

You don't even know most of us. Me, I'm the friendly sort.

How are we using CoP tactics? Massing them? Farming them? Raiding them? Sorry I didn't realise you could only make you account stronger if you were in CoP. Silly me.

dude Jamie, what are you so sore about? CIA isn't COP and wont become COP. for 1 CIA has a bunch of smaller alliances in it, so it would have to change its name and kick out the smaller alliances to become like CoP

even if a few alliances that are in CIA now tried to form a CoP or GA sort of alliance, I'd be the last person that was apart of it. I like to fight against the man, not protect him.

on a sidenote i suggest we should lock this thread because its becoming pointless, jamie you have voiced out what you think and i think you have heard what others think about your views, so no point in this blowing out into other things