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Re: BlackSeal Got pwnt?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:07 am
by Harokai
I wonder how my exceptionally slow growth is explained by all of this.

Wasn't Taxo the guy that came into our irc room last week being all nice to us? He was acting like we were friends :o

Re: BlackSeal Got pwnt?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:09 am
by Raven
Harokai wrote:I wonder how my exceptionally slow growth is explained by all of this.

Wasn't Taxo the guy that came into our irc room last week being all nice to us? He was acting like we were friends :o


Yup he only talks big and bad when he quitted or has protection from his buddies....

Re: BlackSeal Got pwnt?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:14 am
by Mukasa
Oh come on! it's not like stars and blossom will be unbanned lol..like some were..after cheating...they are gone..live with it and STHU with this propaganda **Filtered**


oh and i have enough of it...

anyone remembers when danielv from alpha had a multi account last year? And he was proven that he was cheating, he admitted himself..and got banned..but then, guess what happened? Etl or Ston or were it both of ya? stood up,talked to admin,danielv got unbanned...ALTHOUGH HE WAS ADDMITED HE WAS CHEATING

so untill something same happens with starts or blossom, STHU. Your crucifiying TLE now because of 2 guys/girls that cheated. Now crucifuy alpha because of that.

and taxo,how much $$ did u get for saying that? Ur my friend ,but stop spreading sick lies like that.

Re: BlackSeal Got pwnt?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:34 am
by Shornaal
Taxonomist3 wrote:
Severian wrote:And we Reported ~STARS~ for suspicious behaviour. Blossum being a large player since joining us before the TC vs FAHQ war was not under the same scrunity and so in that regard I personally was unaware if anything was going on [and still am until forum posts in here].

Regardless - our actions have shown that we do not tolerate cheats and will report them despite if they are in our alliance or not the very second we believe we have enough of a suspicion to do so.


lmao... you guys and you fairy tales...

Balor you knew exactly what was going. You, Laura, Zesh, Zeb, Raven, Svarun, and Extremer were all in on it. From that I can only assume given the number of people right there that knew, that the rest of your alliance knew too.

So let me spell it out for the rest of community as to what was going on; seeing as how you're trying to spill such BS about who was who and what was going on.

Blossom's account was built by Henry. Star's account was just built by Henry as well. TLE have been allowing Henry to build the accounts one by one because he could "raid" over 4 mil uu a day. How do I know this? Well I'm ashamed to say, I've bought UU off Henry before when he had Blossom's account and again when he had Star's account. Having done this he's told me a few things about how he operates and how TLE have him operate.

Now as to why you may have reported "stars" was likely because you found Henry was ruining your $$ market for uu -- that's just a guess, but I somehow don't think it has anything to do with whether he was a cheat or not (considering the same people have been in tle for well over a year and you're just now noticing "suspicious" behavior) -- give us a break!

People wonder why I dislike you guys so much, it's not because you're better players. It's because I've known about this crap for a while now. Heck I've even reported it before but you know how it goes -- you reported a while ago about stars and nothing was done.

This is a big part of the reason I would not pay your Tribute -- I didn't want to help cheaters. Why did I quit? Because nothing was done about you guys and nothing will ever be done about you guys.

Feel free refute whatever I've said here. The problem is, many people know henry because he sold them uu. Many people also knew there was something fishy about you guys from the get-go. So no matter what you say, the truth is out now and you guys have been proven liars by not one member of your alliance being banned, but two.
~~~~~
for the community:

My suggestion for you to do what I did and quit. If tle want to be kings of a game, let them be kings of nothing and let the admin of this game see that when he gives into the cheats' $$ it's the rest of the community that pays.

Sincerely,

Taxo


:shock: :o The plot thickens..... :?

Re: BlackSeal Got pwnt?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:36 am
by Raven
God shornaal wrote:
Taxonomist3 wrote:
Severian wrote:And we Reported ~STARS~ for suspicious behaviour. Blossum being a large player since joining us before the TC vs FAHQ war was not under the same scrunity and so in that regard I personally was unaware if anything was going on [and still am until forum posts in here].

Regardless - our actions have shown that we do not tolerate cheats and will report them despite if they are in our alliance or not the very second we believe we have enough of a suspicion to do so.


lmao... you guys and you fairy tales...

Balor you knew exactly what was going. You, Laura, Zesh, Zeb, Raven, Svarun, and Extremer were all in on it. From that I can only assume given the number of people right there that knew, that the rest of your alliance knew too.

So let me spell it out for the rest of community as to what was going on; seeing as how you're trying to spill such BS about who was who and what was going on.

Blossom's account was built by Henry. Star's account was just built by Henry as well. TLE have been allowing Henry to build the accounts one by one because he could "raid" over 4 mil uu a day. How do I know this? Well I'm ashamed to say, I've bought UU off Henry before when he had Blossom's account and again when he had Star's account. Having done this he's told me a few things about how he operates and how TLE have him operate.

Now as to why you may have reported "stars" was likely because you found Henry was ruining your $$ market for uu -- that's just a guess, but I somehow don't think it has anything to do with whether he was a cheat or not (considering the same people have been in tle for well over a year and you're just now noticing "suspicious" behavior) -- give us a break!

People wonder why I dislike you guys so much, it's not because you're better players. It's because I've known about this crap for a while now. Heck I've even reported it before but you know how it goes -- you reported a while ago about stars and nothing was done.

This is a big part of the reason I would not pay your Tribute -- I didn't want to help cheaters. Why did I quit? Because nothing was done about you guys and nothing will ever be done about you guys.

Feel free refute whatever I've said here. The problem is, many people know henry because he sold them uu. Many people also knew there was something fishy about you guys from the get-go. So no matter what you say, the truth is out now and you guys have been proven liars by not one member of your alliance being banned, but two.
~~~~~
for the community:

My suggestion for you to do what I did and quit. If tle want to be kings of a game, let them be kings of nothing and let the admin of this game see that when he gives into the cheats' $$ it's the rest of the community that pays.

Sincerely,

Taxo


:shock: :o The plot thickens..... :?


You really arent helping by giving him attention....

Re: BlackSeal Got pwnt?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:39 am
by MajorLeeHurts
Alpha is not the one in question here some of TLE is and considering all the people effected by this and the actions of TLE in the past few months it is a legitimate issue considering the loss and gains for the players directly involved.

We can not as a community discount these accusations while under the attempted domination of such an alliance.

and they wear this with pride VVV

Member of The Legion
'Terrorists of SGW'

Re: BlackSeal Got pwnt?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:43 am
by Raven
MajorLeeHurts wrote:Alpha is not the one in question here some of TLE is and considering all the people effected by this and the actions of TLE in the past few months it is a legitimate issue considering the loss and gains for the players directly involved.

We can not as a community discount these accusations while under the attempted domination of such an alliance.

and they wear this with pride VVV

Member of The Legion
'Terrorists of SGW'


Lmao its a quote from Mojo Rising back in The CIA-CoP war it seems some of you are getting abit confused about how to make this worse and i must say your doing a good job making fools outta yourselfs.....

Once again this isnt a TLE think Blackseal prolly is the same person as Tears and Stars and now they all three got banned 2 wich were in TLE.....bad luck but we will move on 2 people is hardly the whole TLE they were both pretty new members and you always got rotten apples right?

Plz just leave this to admin instead of these pointless accusations at this rate im prolly Osama bin Laden in 24h .....

Oh and Taxo ..... you get my vote for story teller of SGW :lol:

Re: BlackSeal Got pwnt?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:57 am
by (THUNDER)
Severian wrote:TLE suspected one of its own might be playing up.

TLE told Admin to check it out.

Admin Bans Said player.
Admin also bans closest person to said player. Pending updates.

I fail to see where TLE has gone wrong, the second we suspected, we reported.

TLE does not endorse cheats nor will tolerate them. It is just unfortunate people are using this as an opportunity to express ill feelings towards TLE rather then focus on the issue at hand for improved communication between the administration and community reporting of suspected cheaters.


One can only ascertain what is truly going on here. How many times have we seen ostracized members in other alliances? Everyone will claim they get checked regularly.

Why Don’t he just remove All the uu and naq that ever came out of those acct’s. Let see who starts complaining now when poof half there **Filtered** disappears.

I have respect for very few players here in sgw. LTC, RAVEN,ZESH,ROBE,CORSAIRE,MUKASA,MATO,lahj, the list goes on but only to to 35 names out of what 87,000. SO I know when they say something it has merit behind it.


I have been around alnost 3 years, I have seen a lot of things, I have seen Ostracized accts in omega, alpha, dd, as well as many others, so who really gives a **Filtered**. I don’t.


Hell I am surprised Jason did anything at all until some of the BIG ACCT HOLDERS IN SGW SAY ANYTHING ( I THINK HE NEEDS THERE PERMISSION)


SO WHAT 2 members in TLE got busted. Hell I agree with Zesh lets go back to war and do it all over again.. LETS STOP PLACEING BLAIM, AND CALLING NAMES. GOD some of you really need to grow the hell up!

And just for the record I haven’t received 1 naq or uu from the alliance before, during, or after the war! I have seen more players go back on there words, or tell out right lies and get caught in alliances such as Alpha. Omega, DD. Just to name a few. Did we see anyone accusing all there alliance of it NO. So why us? We as an alliance stood our ground. Held firm. WE WON. Like us or not WE ARE HERE!!!!!!! AND WE WILL FIGHT BACK!!!

(THUNDER)

Re: BlackSeal Got pwnt?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:06 am
by papa~smurf
what seems to stand out in all this new info to me is, that taxo admits that he was part of the uu, but since he no longer plays the game, has nothing to loss or gain by it, except getting the truth he knows out. Any one else willing to step up ?

Re: BlackSeal Got pwnt?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:12 am
by Mukasa
truth? you have no idea how much conspiracy is behind all this...

ofc. he has nothing to lose..why wouldn't he lie....

MLH....yes, it is connected with this..because ppl are soo against cheats etc. and blame whole TLE now because 2 guys were banned for cheating....remember,it happened before in SGW,when more ppl in 1 alliance were banned.

and like munchy said. it's a pain in the ass for the alliance..but it's shown how big jerks ppl really are...

Re: BlackSeal Got pwnt?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:16 am
by Clarkey
This squabbling really is pathetic.

ppl cheated, ppl got banned, end of.
I doubt even Admin will bother reading through 12 pages of moaning.

Re: BlackSeal Got pwnt?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:19 am
by MajorLeeHurts
Mukasa wrote:truth? you have no idea how much conspiracy is behind all this...

ofc. he has nothing to lose..why wouldn't he lie....

MLH....yes, it is connected with this..because ppl are soo against cheats etc. and blame whole TLE now because 2 guys were banned for cheating....remember,it happened before in SGW,when more ppl in 1 alliance were banned.

and like munchy said. it's a pain in the ass for the alliance..but it's shown how big jerks ppl really are...



See you say its only 2 guys/ gals but the issue is the uu is all over the server now like a STD many people were and are effected, (infected)

so 1, players suffer from the advantage gained by other players and 2, players suffer from any server wide correction all because of 2 players in a very active waring alliance.

and a final question did you know and report before or after the war with zion?

Re: BlackSeal Got pwnt?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:27 am
by blahh
Taxonomist3 wrote:
Severian wrote:And we Reported ~STARS~ for suspicious behaviour. Blossum being a large player since joining us before the TC vs FAHQ war was not under the same scrunity and so in that regard I personally was unaware if anything was going on [and still am until forum posts in here].

Regardless - our actions have shown that we do not tolerate cheats and will report them despite if they are in our alliance or not the very second we believe we have enough of a suspicion to do so.


lmao... you guys and you fairy tales...

Balor you knew exactly what was going. You, Laura, Zesh, Zeb, Raven, Svarun, and Extremer were all in on it. From that I can only assume given the number of people right there that knew, that the rest of your alliance knew too.

So let me spell it out for the rest of community as to what was going on; seeing as how you're trying to spill such BS about who was who and what was going on.

Blossom's account was built by Henry. Star's account was just built by Henry as well. TLE have been allowing Henry to build the accounts one by one because he could "raid" over 4 mil uu a day. How do I know this? Well I'm ashamed to say, I've bought UU off Henry before when he had Blossom's account and again when he had Star's account. Having done this he's told me a few things about how he operates and how TLE have him operate.

Now as to why you may have reported "stars" was likely because you found Henry was ruining your $$ market for uu -- that's just a guess, but I somehow don't think it has anything to do with whether he was a cheat or not (considering the same people have been in tle for well over a year and you're just now noticing "suspicious" behavior) -- give us a break!

People wonder why I dislike you guys so much, it's not because you're better players. It's because I've known about this crap for a while now. Heck I've even reported it before but you know how it goes -- you reported a while ago about stars and nothing was done.

This is a big part of the reason I would not pay your Tribute -- I didn't want to help cheaters. Why did I quit? Because nothing was done about you guys and nothing will ever be done about you guys.

Feel free refute whatever I've said here. The problem is, many people know henry because he sold them uu. Many people also knew there was something fishy about you guys from the get-go. So no matter what you say, the truth is out now and you guys have been proven liars by not one member of your alliance being banned, but two.
~~~~~
for the community:

My suggestion for you to do what I did and quit. If tle want to be kings of a game, let them be kings of nothing and let the admin of this game see that when he gives into the cheats' $$ it's the rest of the community that pays.

Sincerely,

Taxo




I guess i m lucky i m not on your list of ppl who were in on it...

ok i guess i should make it a bit more clear.

Be4 the newyear some of the members brought to my attention that stars is selling rather large quanitties of uu at a realy low price and still keeping the same uu size... now while it is posible to have a few "storehouses of uu arround" the numbers that were said raised suspicion.
Since there was no meet admin in that time period, we waited for the first one where I personaly reported Stars to admin. He said an autoscript baned him, and that he was giving him some bs reason why that would happen, and combined with suspicions from players hes to remain baned. Few days later, we found out that stars is still spooking arround on ascension. So yesterday i went to admin again, and told him that the accounts he was baning, arent baned on ascension too. Admin baned the accounts on ascension yesterday.
Later on all this spitting contest came to life and due to it and some player input admin checked out TLE and baned to my knwolidge also Blossom (dunno if any1 else). As i havent spoken to her for a while.. idk what she did or did not do... but I also know that zesh was also temporarily baned just because he had alot of brokers incomeing and outgoing from $ and dmu trades. <- (if thats a cheat.. than 3/4 of the top of the game will be baned next time) Once he explained the origin of those brokers he was unbaned.
On the second admin meet i talked to admin and asked him to post that he has now checked TLE and that they(we) are clean. He said that he can not do that as he can not be 100% sure... wich i m guessing he cant be about any1 as his methods are not 100% else new cheats wouldnt pop up... but he allowed me to quote him That if there were any more cheats in TLE they would be baned like those who were found.



Now idk who this guy henry you keep mentioning is and i was not in on any of the consipracy to do anything... but if you have any "solid" indications that there are still ppl in TLE who cheat, plz send them over to me and i shall annoy admin on the next meeting to disect their asses and if he finds proof i ll personaly mass them be4 he bans them :) IF not
I sugest you stay away from generalisations amd false acusations as they are insulting to some of us who made our way up without cheating, and have always hated cheats.

Ow and btw ability to raid 4mil uus in 1 day isnt a sign of cheating, more a sign of too much free time :)

Edit.. rereading what was writen while i was posting...
I d also like to point out that all of the 3 users, were in several alliances be4 2 of them were in tle. But i dont see ppl pointing out those were the alliances asociated with cheating... only TLE is being pointed at so plz have your limits. Blossome came to tle well over 100mil armysize.. so if she cheated her uus, it had to be be4 that :)

Re: BlackSeal Got pwnt?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:29 am
by Raven
MajorLeeHurts wrote:
Mukasa wrote:truth? you have no idea how much conspiracy is behind all this...

ofc. he has nothing to lose..why wouldn't he lie....

MLH....yes, it is connected with this..because ppl are soo against cheats etc. and blame whole TLE now because 2 guys were banned for cheating....remember,it happened before in SGW,when more ppl in 1 alliance were banned.

and like munchy said. it's a pain in the ass for the alliance..but it's shown how big jerks ppl really are...



See you say its only 2 guys/ gals but the issue is the uu is all over the server now like a STD many people were and are effected, (infected)

so 1, players suffer from the advantage gained and 2, players suffer from any server wide correction all because of 2 players in a very active waring alliance.

and a final question did you know and report before or after the war with zion?


Dude you are really ignorant are you .......anyway let me tell you what happened the real way....

I sold out my account+ UU in end of november when i cam across alot of people who purchased UU from Stars but also from people with apperently the same email as he did...
We confronted stars with that+ his amazing ability to ragain uu even after selling up to 100mill UU to some guy .......well we asked him how he did that and got mad and left the msn convo.....

THen we decided to ask admin to do a regular check on his account just to be sure that should be around the time the war started or like 2 weeks in.....
We told admin and we just waited till admin had done his regular check.

In the meantime we didnt have any proof of him cheating [like Taxo has apperently he seems to know alot of things about this whole thing]

It apparently took admin 2months to figure out what stars had been doing and banned him and shortly after banned Blossom [we knew they lived close together but thats it]

The only ones receiving this 'dirty' uu are the ones who have bought from them at ground lvl prices and they might have scratch thei heads instead of just cashing in on this thing.......tle hasnt got UU's from them at all...

I hope this explains alittle ...

Re: BlackSeal Got pwnt?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:30 am
by GunniH
Severian wrote:I have never been aware of any such cheats and the only people who were within my group were Harokai, Dynamo and TitaniaX.


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