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I was like you in past, to not forgive people for what they did being small or big things...and I realized what it led me to...and frankly, I don't think I ever want to become the same again!
This kind of behaviour made me loose my friends or if I regained them they radically changed and never been the same to me. Life learnt me not forgiving people can be very wrong on the end. Because not everyone else is forgiving, so sometimes when you don't forgive someone, they might take it wrong, and when you realize your mistake, sadly the other side won't back down on some cases.
Now I understand why religion wants people to forgive, knowing both sides of the thing, I can see by myself it's good way.

papa~smurf wrote:

Pele wrote:

papa~smurf wrote:Not that any of this matters to me really, but i find it ironic that tle used a screen shot to bring FS into the zion war, claiming this as the "proof" of things. Now fuall uses screen shots to say tjp starts a war, claiming it is the proof. And tjp, they say it's no proof at all. And who cares really, then and now, cause wars happen. And for the most part, we may go licking and screaming in to them, but in the end find glory and story from them. So just enjoy the battle, and not worry so much bout who is right or exposed.

I had acces to the Zion forum so you were very much involved, anyway thats not the point of the matter.

i think u miss my piont completely. Not going to aruge long gone conflicts and who was planning what, who cause what. And even in on going, what the piont. Your both here, have fun.

LMAO! I managed to side track myself from the point of my post. Sorry about that. Lol. My point was that we are not questioning the validity of the screenshots, I assume they are true although I don't have access to that part of the forum so can't say for definit. What I meant to say before side tracking myself was that its the substance, there is an element of twisting of a story going on here.

Legendary Apophis wrote:I was like you in past, to not forgive people for what they did being small or big things...and I realized what it led me to...and frankly, I don't think I ever want to become the same again!
This kind of behaviour made me loose my friends or if I regained them they radically changed and never been the same to me. Life learnt me not forgiving people can be very wrong on the end. Because not everyone else is forgiving, so sometimes when you don't forgive someone, they might take it wrong, and when you realize your mistake, sadly the other side won't back down on some cases.
Now I understand why religion wants people to forgive, knowing both sides of the thing, I can see by myself it's good way.

I dont forgive RL or game.. ask my papa or nana, if you dont belive me.

I find the concept of not forgiving quite well, it saves or even prevents disapointments.
I apriciate your advice, but keep it.

- Evidence of FUALL saving up enourmous resource reserves, buying out smaller alliances, approaching alliances they would normally have nothing to do with, stocking Banks, lifeforce and ATs. Selling or down scaling stats (i.e selling off to minimise damage), planets merlining and many other signs of intent of war.

Yep , we did all that , for a war after the nap ended.

- Evidence of spying TLE accounts, getting recons on our stats & planets.

Sorry to burst your bubble , not only TJP alliances , every alliance with some power , its called " recon " know your unknown enemy.

- Evidence of detailed plans being developed and drawn up, tactics discussed and how to go about it.

Yep , that to , but again to be used after the nap ended.

- Outright statements by leaders within your empire saying war is comming.

Yes , i'm only a small leader (Omega strike team 2 leader ) but i did post war was comming , as i was givin the content of those posts by someone long befor there was even talk of screenshots.

- Mayhem betraying TLE, switches sides, their leaders admitting to feigning ignorance to grant you a political bullet to fire and openly admit to using Blahh and co for information for spying purposes on TJP, the alliances it comprised of and potential friends of TJP (Who funnily enough ended up getting hit prior to war).

Surprise , the founder of MaYHeM is a member of Omega , mH has being Omega sided from the day it was founded , you ppl just did not see it , makes you wonder whoels in tjp is bent like this -> Ω

- Increased sniper hits on TLE accounts on ascended, Radical minority appearing and Buck stating he is Omegan at heart and only hitting TLE not FUALL.

I'm sorry to say with players like Magni in RM its safe to say they are hitting both sides.

With that information available, TLE senate still decides to honour its NaP to the end and Blahh and Zesh leave; they’d been totally betrayed by Orph, knew war was being plotted against them, that FUALL were dancing a political game of cat and mouse and given the above decide they can no longer stand and do nothing about it. How dare they!

But was mH not a hidden part of TJP , to be used as a means to get naq , turns and UU in case of war but to be seen as neutral to FUALL , wow , now thats planning from your side , smart.

I can really see how FUALL and TJP are just as dirty as each other and how TJP is not united, are corrupt and plotted against FUALL to the same or greater extent that FUALL did towards them.

/sarcasm.

i dont get the " /sarcasm. " its totaly out of place...

The only thing this thread has done is reaffirmed the publics opinions of you Rhett and let your members know to what extents and lows you'll stoop to and just how dirty the political games you play are.

I for one can say this info was already availible befor ETL got it , and it was not by hacking , it was by someone that had acces to the forum via login and pass .

You failed to break TJP in your opening strike.
Your investment failed in portraying yourselves as good and us as bad.
You are losing members; people are splintering off and no longer listening.
Your empire cannot survive a war of attrition which is what this is turning into.
The community and your own players are starting to realise the long term repercussions of this war and how dangerous a FUALL victory is to the server.

Wel , we can say the same about TJP , i really do not see the difference , the longer the war takes the more ppl leave , quit , go lone wolf , its only cleaning the ranks of the weak.

You have 71 Runners already, all noted and recorded.
You have another 47 on top of that “hiding” in vacation.

Yep , i'm on vacmode to , i screwed up my mpsd times , so i use vacmode to get my time balance back , and the 71 runners , did you know they dit not even pay to quit ?

That’s a good 118 accounts of the mighty and fundamentally unbreakable alliance out of commission. I can really see how TJP are failing, that they’re not doing anything that they’re as weak, disorganised and paralysed by factionalism as you make them out to be.

YES , tjp is a team , we wil never be able to split them up , one big happy family doing wat ever it takes to keep the gang together , alliance befor own profit !! , wel exept Blahh and some others , but thats not really my bussines.

So what do you do Rhett, where do you go, how can you rally the troops and where can you try take the war so you can try winning it given that you aren’t gaining any ground in game.

Wel , we just keep playing , and we dont need to win ground , as long as your losing it were fine

Everyone knows what this thread is and what it is for. You have further soiled whatever honour and virtue that is left in your empire.

I was actually thinking the same thing about some ppl on your side when i got those first reports

greets Draleg.

I don't want to be mistaken with my post to the kind of people who always forgive. I believe in the second chance thing...that's why AGA in my eyes can't really be forgiven fully, he broke it more than 3 times, so he's not truely forgivable.
Good for you I guess if you can handle the unforgive thing, but for my case considering people I've met in my life etc...if I did it, I guess by the age of 9 I would consider myself friendless for the next 10 years of my life at least, because more or less all people I've known did betrayings or bad things to me or to others at some time. It looks very pessimistic vision of world, but sadly it's true here. All people did things like that.
So your slogan about unforgiving is somehow true, but considering what I say in this post, for me, it would only cause lonelyness for years, considering general behaviour and character of majority.
Yes I'm aware of what she did, but compared to like at least 99% of people I've met from primary to high school, she's way better than them and would trust her over them anytime. I've grown in a place where poeple lie as they breath, betray you, and other nasty things, friends or not. So that's why I had no difficulties to forgive her, since behind this issue I seen a real good person in her, and didn't get opposed vision to it since this event to now, unlike those poeple I know from real life, who you can consider as "AGAs" and would waste your time trying as good person as Auriel in them. TRUST ME, I tried. Many times. And failed. As much.
Forgiving them WITH expecting them to be nice after would be naivity at its best, yes I said rather forgive them, but do it in a semi level, like expecting them to do it again, since afterall most of them would do it again, so them, I use them for "profit" indeed. Unlike Auriel. Because she's trustworthy. They aren't. And no I didn't know all of them 24/7 or soething to see the "bad behind the cover"...not needed, really easy to find bad people in my opinion. From my experience at least.

I had to say it to prevent people to say I'm this and that, to show you why I act like this. I think when things are cleared it's better!

just a note for MLH ,

i actually enjoy the politics of the game more then the game itself , its great , finding ways to know wat your opponent is thinking , planning , manipulating ppl in telling you wat they know , and lets be honest , this works both ways , spy's are a part of the game , not only for sabbing ...

lol at the whole thread

etl and acronon did exactly the same thing a couple of years ago in the old ta forum, used a ta member account (i believe they got the pwd cause it was the same one from another forum) and read the forum (luckly he wasnt a hc member at the time) , and rhett dont deny this cause it is true i know

about what was said in the tle forum, i dont actually see anything wrong there, blahh wanted to farm, cause with all the naps he couldnt find nice farms, thats normal, buck did the same thing basically

if it started the war, well, it could have been the trigger yes, or part of the trigger, but everyone knew this war was coming, from both sides, and all were prepping for this it was inevitable and actually necessary

@oneill, great post, and to everyone, now you know what we have to deal with his posts from 3 years now lol, the guy likes to write lol

about who is worst, fuall or tjp, ofc the worse is the side that the Nox is not there lol now really, its the same thing, we both created big alliances to face the other side, but since i cant be a bad guy, we are the good guys loll

and if you guys do have access to the tjp hc forum, say hi from time to time, we can have a good talk there too, without all the mods taking out the name calling and stuff like that lol

blahh wrote:

MajorLeeHurts wrote:

hmmm i m guessing you actualy read what the screenshots were sayn, for that i aplaude you, too bad fuall didnt read them be4 actualy posting

and like i said be4, the 2 or 3 threads are well, taken out of the larger context for one, and even out of the context.. the only person they can be used against is me... yet fuall claim to connect them with tjp... whats next for breakfast, blahh = tjp or something...
I never claimed to be a decent guy, I ve said it on many ocasions i m imoral, and got no problem with it...

I've yet to see proof of that immorality. Maybe you suck at ingame politics, but how is that immoral?!

blahh wrote:as for the coments of coma girl, and those directed at her shornal... only shows that you lot are quick to forget the "tresspasses of the past" if one can server you well for the time being, as well as you can ditch them in a trash later, AGA was a fine example, same with DHM, auriel is just one in the line of many, that did sheet, but its usefull atm, so youre friendly.. second they are not... its war against coma girl...

No comment. I'm not going to argue the sincerity of FUALL, but I know of individual members who are quite sincere in their words. Among them, Shornaal.

blahh wrote:on the other side of the fence... For me, what coma girl did was unforgivable, for the next 10k years or so, will never like her due to that, and will continue to annoy her, either on fourms or ingame over it...
Ofcourse you may call me annoyn, or **Filtered**, or idiot or imoral over that... add it to the long list of my postivie qualities.

^_^
But you don't annoy me. At least, not personally..
If that's your intention, you fail miserably.. I see you as a decent chap, big farmer, but not annoying at all. Why would I?


Anyway. Is that even on-topic?

Nox wrote:lol at the whole thread

etl and acronon did exactly the same thing a couple of years ago in the old ta forum, used a ta member account (i believe they got the pwd cause it was the same one from another forum) and read the forum (luckly he wasnt a hc member at the time) , and rhett dont deny this cause it is true i know

about what was said in the tle forum, i dont actually see anything wrong there, blahh wanted to farm, cause with all the naps he couldnt find nice farms, thats normal, buck did the same thing basically

if it started the war, well, it could have been the trigger yes, or part of the trigger, but everyone knew this war was coming, from both sides, and all were prepping for this it was inevitable and actually necessary

@oneill, great post, and to everyone, now you know what we have to deal with his posts from 3 years now lol, the guy likes to write lol

about who is worst, fuall or tjp, ofc the worse is the side that the Nox is not there lol now really, its the same thing, we both created big alliances to face the other side, but since i cant be a bad guy, we are the good guys loll

and if you guys do have access to the tjp hc forum, say hi from time to time, we can have a good talk there too, without all the mods taking out the name calling and stuff like that lol

Done it to EPA aswell.

well here they kinda failed to proove their point..

their point was
me and zesh were sent out by tle to annoy fuall... and start a war

and we argued it was our own decision... to go out annoy a few and farm the lot..


oddly.. i did a second reread of the pics posted...

and as far as my eye can see...

i sugested leaving, -> tle not letting me -> zesh backing me up, sayn were doing this only depends how we part -> tle agreeing to let us go...


obviusly screenshots proove that tle ordered me and zeshy to go out and annoy faull... case closed the accused guilty.. use /sarcasem off or whatever...

thats why i said yesterday to curumo that you lot should have read what you have posted... cause basicly the screanies confirmed what was argued be4 the war. we werent sent by tle, actualy the senate oposed to it till we "bullied" our way out...once we did they accepted the fact. so we were in this alone...

did we do it partialy for them, hell yeah, like most ppl in TDL and TLE know, i would waste my account for them... regardless if the senate would kick me out, or i was still in or i d leave the alliance thats why we refer to ourselfs as a "family"

but like its been said, watter under the bridge... replijake replijoke... doenst realy matter, go rebuild some defences dear fuall

So you wanna say TLE and TJP never had spies in alliances? Never had access to foreign forums that they were not supposed to have?

Isn't that a bit hypocritical?

Blahh as i've told you yesterday, now you are putting things out of context ... or should i say, your own context?

hey Blahh go screw

Your a liar fact

You intentionally left TLE to farm Fuall, knowingly it would lead to war, so thats what this post is about

I used to have respect for you now its less than that I would step over in a street and left by a dog

Why must everyone insult the other?

This goes for both sides:
Please, If you have nothing constructive to post, don't post at all cause you're throwing a bad light on yourself and your fellow families.

myworld wrote:hey Blahh go screw

Your a liar fact

You intentionally left TLE to farm Fuall, knowingly it would lead to war, so thats what this post is about

I used to have respect for you now its less than that I would step over in a street and left by a dog

thats the spirit, keep it up,and dont forget to add my positive qualities, small penis, a cheat, from a bad country, family has no moral values, how can i even study law, ect keep on the messege..

@curumo, obviusly we had spys, obviusly we had a legit "access" to your forums - by this i mean no hacking involved, one of your members was kind enough to give us insights to them from both parts of fuall from time to time.
no 1 is sayn we werent catious, no1 is not sayn we werent aware what you guys were planing, and no1 is not sayn we werent doing preparations of our own for when the time comes for you to decide to hit ect...

all ppl here are claiming is that you were the action, we were the reaction, causality..

you on the other hand, or not you in particular but more your superiors, would like the "world" to belive you were in danger, and thats why you hit. (find that odd, for 2 reasons, doenst realy matter for one cause the one left standing will be to some degree able to rewirte history, and for 2... you lot have been cryn game over since day 1 of the war.. so realy why care? )
Sadly that is not the case. If you want you can talk to me on msn, and i ll be happy to send you the screenshots of dde forum dating back to march on plans how to strip blahh of his planets when the time comes and so on, while those same members who are sayn its a must be in those treads were acting kind and friendly to me politics i guess and while no hard feelings and i get their point, it goes to prove that you were planing this war on march already, probably sooner while the screenshots from our forums are dated may 18th or later if i m not mistaken

And again if you read the screenies.. i m the bad guy there, rest of tle (no talk of tjp at all here) were tryn to convince me not to do it... yet you lot are blaming them for sending me out... do you see my point?

its not a spin off, its a simple fact, and you lot posted pics to proove it

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