Terrorists, real or not?

[[KMA]Avenger]

so kma, briefly explain why the iraq and afganistan wars are. . .

. . . a sham, a pack of lies, a joke, a con job, a monumental blunder and nothing short of genocide...

oh there were blunders. but a sham and pack of lies? no, sorry. and please look up the definition of genocide. you seem to be confused if you think it occured in afganistan or iraq (although it did happen under Saddam's rule)

check your facts mr complainforthesakeofcomplaining

i understand the exact definition of the word "Genocide", do you?

[spoiler]he international legal definition of the crime of genocide is found in Articles II and III of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide.

Article II describes two elements of the crime of genocide:

1) the mental element, meaning the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such", and

2) the physical element which includes five acts described in sections a, b, c, d and e. A crime must include both elements to be called "genocide."

Article III described five punishable forms of the crime of genocide: genocide; conspiracy, incitement, attempt and complicity.
Excerpt from the Convention on the Prevention and
Punishment of Genocide (For full text click here)

"Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.[/spoiler]


you don't have to wipe out the whole nation for genocide to have been committed. genocide is an act that every president has been party to since and including-LBJ right upto GWB and most likely, the next president will have his own enemy of freedom and liberty to deal with. (LBJ for those who dont know is Lyndon Baines Johnson).

every single president uses the same rhetoric, we are going in to safe guard american lives and restore democracy...what the hell does a president of a republic care about democracy?!?!

when a president says "safe guard american lives" what he's really saying is "killing a bunch of civis".

people have VERY short memorys, anyone know what happened in panama during bush seniors presidency, anyone know how many civis were killed and which parts of panama were targeted by the US military???

anyone know how the conflict in serbia/kosovo started (when i ask "do you know how the conflict in serbia/kosovo started" i am NOT talking about the bullcrap that came from the media), anyone know how many civis were killed by clinton??

you "naysayers" fail to learn anything because you do not recognize anything from the past even if its resent memory.


i say GWB all his top staff as well as Tony Blair and all his cabinet are guilty of the following:

Article III: The following acts shall be punishable:


(a) Genocide;

(b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;

(c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;

(d) Attempt to commit genocide;

(e) Complicity in genocide. "



and as for a pack of lies...if you've seen some evidence that either/or afghanistan, iraq or bin laden was involved with 9/11 (that is the reason we are there...yes?) then please share it with the world!

And Churchill gave part of czechoslovakia to the germans cos he was a **Filtered** and thought Hitler would stop then.

that was Neville Chamberlain mate, and recently i've come across evidence that Chamberlain was doing as he was told, meaning others behind the scenes were pulling the strings on appeasement in order for the world to be fooled into thinking that everything short of war had been tried and failed and thus give even more righteousness to the war.
its not 100% and its only from 1 source so don't take it as i am saying its 100%, its NOT.

and no mr liquid, i do not complain simply for the fun of it, if i complain its because i have VERY good reason to complain

[Demeisen]

And Churchill gave part of czechoslovakia to the germans cos he was a **Filtered** and thought Hitler would stop then.

please dont insult one of my countries greatest leaders. especially not when you are wrong.

kma i know what genocide is. coalition didnt commit it in iraq/afganistan. the fact that you accuse our troops of genocide is shameful.

[[KMA]Avenger]

so, millions of dead civis is what in your book...a few broken eggs??

and did i say our troops went to intentionally commit genocide, or did i point fingers at the leaders who put them in the situation of NOT knowing who the enemy is?

in a nutshell, i am pointing fingers solely at our leaders and the upper chain of command who are as guilty as sin!

please stop assuming stuff about me and what i say

[Angnoch]

yeah the whole reason behind going to Iraq and Afghanistan was to commit genocide you really have a lot to learn KMA standing OPORDS for Iraq and Afghanistan don't say kill civilians nor do we purposely kill civilians its against the law, now there are acceptable circumstances where civilians are killed as collateral damage but these are not every day occurences, its far more likely that the terrorist and insurgents cause the death of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan because it is easier to target unarmed persons especially when you blend right into the culture.

[[KMA]Avenger]

doesn't ANYONE pay attention to what i write and what they read?

do you only read what you want to read?

forget the troops for a moment and read this...our leaders are mass murdering egomanical mass murdering butchers hell bent on world domination...get it or do i have to yet explain that i am not pointing fingers at the troops??

anyways, i'm hearing reports of about 1.5 million civis have been killed in iraq alone, so for the sake of arguement, lets say a total of 2 million casualties, which includes ALL dead from all sides, by my calculations we have been at war with afghanistan for 2471 days (give or take a few days).
2 million dead divided by 2471=809.388 dead per day, granted the war in iraq has been raging for less time than the war in afghanistan and granted all i was doing was putting the numbers together to come to an average daily death toll, the point i'm trying to get at here is this...

what figure would make you people FINALLY sit up and start asking some hardcore questions of your govt?

please put a figure on it for me, will it be 4 million dead? 5? how about 10, is 10 million dead on ALL sides going to make you open your eyes?

my god people, the bush administration has said it could take a hundred years, where did he get that figure from...the same place he got his evidence!?!?

both the war in afghanistan and iraq are jokes based on lies, and both wars are EXTREMELY unjust with WAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY to many deaths on both sides to even try and justify!

if you people cant see it then i feel pity for you.

let me be even more frank, standing army's are good for 1 thing and only 1 thing WAR!

the military industrial complex which Eisenhower warned us about is at the very heart of this charade, and if our govts spent 1/10th of the money they have spent in the past 7 years at home instead of buying bombs the whole world wouldn't be in the s hit its in.

the american economy is in freefall thanks in a large part to fighting 2 major wars, maintaining a standing army as well as so many bases world wide (anyone no wants happening with this fanny mae and freddie mac business) and theres a very REAL chance it could drag the entire world economy down with it and you guys are STILL defending the war?

[Colton]

That seems to be the case.

[S0lid Snake]

Your on the money again Kma.

Didn't another American bank go pop today?

Things will start to speed up as fear of collapse spreads through the banking sector.

Don't say we didn't warn you...

It's all ok people, the war on terror is all for your personal safety.

Do you really feel any safer?

P.s If you have any sense regarding fiat money systems, dump the Pound & the Dollar and buy gold & sliver. You won't make a profit, but you can guard against hyper inflation which will be coming shortly.

Say hello to the Euro (uk) & the Amero (usa)...

Oh, and bring the troops home now. An error only becomes a mistake when you refuse to fix it.

[Demeisen]

you can guard against hyper inflation which will be coming shortly.

got a date for this latest prediction? you realise that if you are wrong you will loose all credibility . . .oh wait . . . this seems familiar

[Thriller]

doesn't ANYONE pay attention to what i write and what they read?

do you only read what you want to read?

forget the troops for a moment and read this...our leaders are mass murdering egomanical mass murdering butchers hell bent on world domination...get it or do i have to yet explain that i am not pointing fingers at the troops??

anyways, i'm hearing reports of about 1.5 million civis have been killed in iraq alone, so for the sake of arguement, lets say a total of 2 million casualties, which includes ALL dead from all sides, by my calculations we have been at war with afghanistan for 2471 days (give or take a few days).
2 million dead divided by 2471=809.388 dead per day, granted the war in iraq has been raging for less time than the war in afghanistan and granted all i was doing was putting the numbers together to come to an average daily death toll, the point i'm trying to get at here is this...

what figure would make you people FINALLY sit up and start asking some hardcore questions of your govt?

please put a figure on it for me, will it be 4 million dead? 5? how about 10, is 10 million dead on ALL sides going to make you open your eyes?

my god people, the bush administration has said it could take a hundred years, where did he get that figure from...the same place he got his evidence!?!?

both the war in afghanistan and iraq are jokes based on lies, and both wars are EXTREMELY unjust with WAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY to many deaths on both sides to even try and justify!

if you people cant see it then i feel pity for you.

let me be even more frank, standing army's are good for 1 thing and only 1 thing WAR!

the military industrial complex which Eisenhower warned us about is at the very heart of this charade, and if our govts spent 1/10th of the money they have spent in the past 7 years at home instead of buying bombs the whole world wouldn't be in the s hit its in.

the american economy is in freefall thanks in a large part to fighting 2 major wars, maintaining a standing army as well as so many bases world wide (anyone no wants happening with this fanny mae and freddie mac business) and theres a very REAL chance it could drag the entire world economy down with it and you guys are STILL defending the war?

Your sources are wrong how many times do i have to tell you that!!!!!!. 2million dead since the war. You have to be on drugs to believe that.

[Rudy Peña]

Like 2 years ago I think on New Years Eve or Day a US soldier died making 5K dead from aftermath of the war in Iraq. I am not sure on the exact # but it was that I think. Plus Iraq is not that bad as the first 2-3 years we been there. Sure there are shoot outs and people die by friendly fire or shot the wrong person and I.EDs are not really a problem in Iraq now. We(US Army) have destoryed most, if not all of the weapons chaches in Iraq. Now IEDs are coming from Iran. Now there is only a 10% chance of conveys getting hit my IEDs in Iraq.

[[KMA]Avenger]

doesn't ANYONE pay attention to what i write and what they read?

do you only read what you want to read?

forget the troops for a moment and read this...our leaders are mass murdering egomanical mass murdering butchers hell bent on world domination...get it or do i have to yet explain that i am not pointing fingers at the troops??

anyways, i'm hearing reports of about 1.5 million civis have been killed in iraq alone, so for the sake of arguement, lets say a total of 2 million casualties, which includes ALL dead from all sides, by my calculations we have been at war with afghanistan for 2471 days (give or take a few days).
2 million dead divided by 2471=809.388 dead per day, granted the war in iraq has been raging for less time than the war in afghanistan and granted all i was doing was putting the numbers together to come to an average daily death toll, the point i'm trying to get at here is this...

what figure would make you people FINALLY sit up and start asking some hardcore questions of your govt?

please put a figure on it for me, will it be 4 million dead? 5? how about 10, is 10 million dead on ALL sides going to make you open your eyes?

my god people, the bush administration has said it could take a hundred years, where did he get that figure from...the same place he got his evidence!?!?

both the war in afghanistan and iraq are jokes based on lies, and both wars are EXTREMELY unjust with WAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY to many deaths on both sides to even try and justify!

if you people cant see it then i feel pity for you.

let me be even more frank, standing army's are good for 1 thing and only 1 thing WAR!

the military industrial complex which Eisenhower warned us about is at the very heart of this charade, and if our govts spent 1/10th of the money they have spent in the past 7 years at home instead of buying bombs the whole world wouldn't be in the s hit its in.

the american economy is in freefall thanks in a large part to fighting 2 major wars, maintaining a standing army as well as so many bases world wide (anyone no wants happening with this fanny mae and freddie mac business) and theres a very REAL chance it could drag the entire world economy down with it and you guys are STILL defending the war?

Your sources are wrong how many times do i have to tell you that!!!!!!. 2million dead since the war. You have to be on drugs to believe that.

do you even bother to understand what you read?

if there have been 1.5 mil dead just in iraq can you not see i was being conservative in my guesstimate and that the real figure is in all likelihood, much higher.


regardless, i say again...

what figure would make you people FINALLY sit up and start asking some hardcore questions of your govt?

please put a figure on it for me, will it be 4 million dead? 5? how about 10, is 10 million dead on ALL sides going to make you open your eyes?

my god people, the bush administration has said it could take a hundred years, where did he get that figure from...the same place he got his evidence!?!?

[Rudy Peña]

doesn't ANYONE pay attention to what i write and what they read?

do you only read what you want to read?

forget the troops for a moment and read this...our leaders are mass murdering egomanical mass murdering butchers hell bent on world domination...get it or do i have to yet explain that i am not pointing fingers at the troops??

anyways, i'm hearing reports of about 1.5 million civis have been killed in iraq alone, so for the sake of arguement, lets say a total of 2 million casualties, which includes ALL dead from all sides, by my calculations we have been at war with afghanistan for 2471 days (give or take a few days).
2 million dead divided by 2471=809.388 dead per day, granted the war in iraq has been raging for less time than the war in afghanistan and granted all i was doing was putting the numbers together to come to an average daily death toll, the point i'm trying to get at here is this...

what figure would make you people FINALLY sit up and start asking some hardcore questions of your govt?

please put a figure on it for me, will it be 4 million dead? 5? how about 10, is 10 million dead on ALL sides going to make you open your eyes?

my god people, the bush administration has said it could take a hundred years, where did he get that figure from...the same place he got his evidence!?!?

both the war in afghanistan and iraq are jokes based on lies, and both wars are EXTREMELY unjust with WAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY to many deaths on both sides to even try and justify!

if you people cant see it then i feel pity for you.

let me be even more frank, standing army's are good for 1 thing and only 1 thing WAR!

the military industrial complex which Eisenhower warned us about is at the very heart of this charade, and if our govts spent 1/10th of the money they have spent in the past 7 years at home instead of buying bombs the whole world wouldn't be in the s hit its in.

the american economy is in freefall thanks in a large part to fighting 2 major wars, maintaining a standing army as well as so many bases world wide (anyone no wants happening with this fanny mae and freddie mac business) and theres a very REAL chance it could drag the entire world economy down with it and you guys are STILL defending the war?

Your sources are wrong how many times do i have to tell you that!!!!!!. 2million dead since the war. You have to be on drugs to believe that.

do you even bother to understand what you read?

if there have been 1.5 mil dead just in iraq can you not see i was being conservative in my guesstimate and that the real figure is in all likelihood, much higher.


regardless, i say again...

what figure would make you people FINALLY sit up and start asking some hardcore questions of your govt?

please put a figure on it for me, will it be 4 million dead? 5? how about 10, is 10 million dead on ALL sides going to make you open your eyes?

my god people, the bush administration has said it could take a hundred years, where did he get that figure from...the same place he got his evidence!?!?

If you want to know how many peoplehave died click this link.

http://icasualties.org/oif/Default.aspx



Its all of the DOD Confirmation List

[[KMA]Avenger]

thats not what i asked, i asked how many more it would take.

bottom line is this...both wars are WRONG on every single level, but thats ok coz while we are busy wiping them out we are giving them freedom so these little buggers better stop moaning about their family's dieing and better start appreciating the gift of freedom.

[Demeisen]

your estimates of the iraq death toll are hugely over the top. why not say billions died

[[KMA]Avenger]

1.5 mil dead is whats being reported so its safe to assume that at least 500K coalition soldiers and afghanis have died since the war started, because i don't know how many afghan and coalition soldiers have died.
i could google it and see but the point was not to show how many have died but to put a very realistic figure of the dead into peoples minds and then ask how many more coalition troops, afghan and iraqi civilian dead it would take before people start to ask our govts, 1, why we are there (and dont give me this terrorist crap), and 2, how many more dead will it take before those country's are free.

i see nobody has given me an answer on how many more it will take and nobody here questions anything other than what i say, which is why we have rampant govt...

look people, you have to understand something here, i have an 11 year old son, what if in 5/6 years down the line the war is still going on and my son says "i'm joining the armed forces to serve my country and theres nothing you can say that will change my mind dad, so live with it i'm going!"

what then if my son returns home in a box?
i will tell you what then, i will get a gun from somewhere (not hard to do) and i will go "rambo" and kill any politician i can get close to or die trying because i have no fear of dieing whatsoever!

been there, done that, i was involved in a VERY serious car accident some 12 years ago, a long story short, i was nearly killed by a lorry while on my way home from the airport and i really thought this mad truck driver had killed me, i'm still here!

i don't care what people say i will shoot the lying sons of **Filtered**, but i would prefer that i didn't have to take a life no matter how reprehensible i find that person.

so what is left? what is left is to wake people up and stop the killing, stop the dieing, i have no wish to see anymore young men and women go to war and give the ultimate sacrifice just so some knob head in office can act and talk tough from the safety of hiding behind everyone else in the country, they talk big but all i see are midgets!

let them serve in these wars if they believe in them so much, let them send there children, if they are willing to do this then i will print off everything i have said and will sit down at the table and eat them humbly and shut my mouth forever!

till that day i have every right to say what i say and to try and get people to ask more questions of their govts...period!




some food for thought:


[spoiler]When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
Thomas Jefferson


A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government, and what no just government should refuse, or rest on inference.
Thomas Jefferson

A coward is much more exposed to quarrels than a man of spirit.
Thomas Jefferson

A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
Thomas Jefferson

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
Thomas Jefferson

All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression.
Thomas Jefferson

An enemy generally says and believes what he wishes.
Thomas Jefferson


Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies.
Thomas Jefferson

Be polite to all, but intimate with few.
Thomas Jefferson

Bodily decay is gloomy in prospect, but of all human contemplations the most abhorrent is body without mind.
Thomas Jefferson

Conquest is not in our principles. It is inconsistent with our government.
Thomas Jefferson

Delay is preferable to error.
Thomas Jefferson

Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition.
Thomas Jefferson


Do not bite at the bait of pleasure, till you know there is no hook beneath it.
Thomas Jefferson

Do you want to know who you are? Don't ask. Act! Action will delineate and define you.
Thomas Jefferson

Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.
Thomas Jefferson

Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day.
Thomas Jefferson

Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state.
Thomas Jefferson

Every generation needs a new revolution.
Thomas Jefferson

Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories.
Thomas Jefferson

Experience demands that man is the only animal which devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor.
Thomas Jefferson


Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson

Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear.
Thomas Jefferson

Force is the vital principle and immediate parent of despotism.
Thomas Jefferson

He who knows best knows how little he knows.
Thomas Jefferson

History, in general, only informs us of what bad government is.
Thomas Jefferson

Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom.
Thomas Jefferson

I abhor war and view it as the greatest scourge of mankind.
Thomas Jefferson


I am mortified to be told that, in the United States of America, the sale of a book can become a subject of inquiry, and of criminal inquiry too.
Thomas Jefferson

I do not take a single newspaper, nor read one a month, and I feel myself infinitely the happier for it.
Thomas Jefferson

I have no fear that the result of our experiment will be that men may be trusted to govern themselves without a master.
Thomas Jefferson

I have seen enough of one war never to wish to see another.
Thomas Jefferson

I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use our power the greater it will be.
Thomas Jefferson

I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
Thomas Jefferson

I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them but to inform their discretion.
Thomas Jefferson

I own that I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.
Thomas Jefferson

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson

I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale.
Thomas Jefferson


I think with the Romans, that the general of today should be a soldier tomorrow if necessary.
Thomas Jefferson

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it.
Thomas Jefferson

Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
Thomas Jefferson

In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
Thomas Jefferson

It is always better to have no ideas than false ones; to believe nothing, than to believe what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.
Thomas Jefferson

It is our duty still to endeavor to avoid war; but if it shall actually take place, no matter by whom brought on, we must defend ourselves. If our house be on fire, without inquiring whether it was fired from within or without, we must try to extinguish it.
Thomas Jefferson

It takes time to persuade men to do even what is for their own good.
Thomas Jefferson

Leave no authority existing not responsible to the people.
Thomas Jefferson

Liberty is to the collective body, what health is to every individual body. Without health no pleasure can be tasted by man; without liberty, no happiness can be enjoyed by society.
Thomas Jefferson

Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
Thomas Jefferson

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson

Our greatest happiness does not depend on the condition of life in which chance has placed us, but is always the result of a good conscience, good health, occupation, and freedom in all just pursuits.
Thomas Jefferson

Peace and friendship with all mankind is our wisest policy, and I wish we may be permitted to pursue it.
Thomas Jefferson

Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none.
Thomas Jefferson

Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.
Thomas Jefferson

That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves.
Thomas Jefferson

The advertisement is the most truthful part of a newspaper.
Thomas Jefferson

The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government.
Thomas Jefferson

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.
Thomas Jefferson

The most successful war seldom pays for its losses.
Thomas Jefferson

The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.
Thomas Jefferson


The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive.
Thomas Jefferson

The spirit of this country is totally adverse to a large military force.
Thomas Jefferson

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
Thomas Jefferson

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Thomas Jefferson

The world is indebted for all triumphs which have been gained by reason and humanity over error and oppression.
Thomas Jefferson


Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty.
Thomas Jefferson

War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.
Thomas Jefferson

Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.
Thomas Jefferson


When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.
Thomas Jefferson

Whenever a man has cast a longing eye on offices, a rottenness begins in his conduct.
Thomas Jefferson

Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government.
Thomas Jefferson

Whenever you do a thing, act as if all the world were watching.
Thomas Jefferson

Where the press is free and every man able to read, all is safe.
Thomas Jefferson[/spoiler]


at the end of the day, if your not willing to stand up to big govt then i don't care how strong or tough you are, i don't care how many people you can beat up, your a coward and nothing more than a brain dead guilble vegetable!

october 24th i'm off to demonstrate outside the bank of england and will add my voice to those willing to stand up to this communist establishment (read the communist manifesto, centralized banks are a big part of communism) and demand its shutdown and for the banks governors and board stand trial as traitors!