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Re: 12agnar0k is what he says hes not - an extortionist
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:46 am
by 12agnar0k
Tetrismonkey wrote:lol
7Mill UU for a surrender term?
Since when did you have to pay to surrender. You pay for a surrender then thats extortion. Just keep in mind, if you want war retrubutions, look at history. After WW1, France made Germeny pay huge amounts, starting the hatred. After pullin the country deeper into the Depression, they looked for help. Help they got but at what cost?
You ask for money, your only gonna have a **Filtered** storm later.
You use an example, where France charged Germany way more than they should have, which forced Germany's oppression on the matter, mainly because 1st world war wasn't actually all Germany's fault (like Nazi Germany) but alas, this War is all FS's fault so I don't think asking for a third of damages as a repayment is entirely unreasonable, their was always the option of not massing us sheerly to ME hunt.

This is not the case with Technocracy (oh btw its not me its tech but I can say it was me if you want

) are charging a fair price
MEZZANINE wrote:@ 12ag, I dont know what 1/3 of damage done by MLHs old account to Tech is, gathering that kind of detail in war is a pointless waste of time
Your right trying to work out what each of your people/accounts did in damage would be useless waste of time, fortunately I know the total damage and its one third of that roughly divided by the number of members who started the war. So if Dark Smoke has a higher repayment (thats IF btw lol) than the damage he caused, its the rest of FS's fault obviously

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MLH and co you should just ask for that account back if he pretty much scammed you out of it.
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yeah Ifrit, been said like 10 times now hasnt it

Re: 12agnar0k is what he says hes not - an extortionist
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:56 am
by 12agnar0k
Ifrit wrote:@12ag - I do think your tribute is a bit high, please reconsider the postion, try to comprimise/negotiate
Yes well I warned FS their would be no niceties till they did something which need not be repeated. If they did what I asked, if their were reasonable and compromised we wouldn't of had to make High (yet reasonable, a third isn't a lot) War reparations.
Re: 12agnar0k is what he says hes not - an extortionist
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:33 am
by Iƒrit
the let go two tech's with no reperations, food for thought?
Re: 12agnar0k is what he says hes not - an extortionist
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:49 am
by Envy
12agnar0k wrote:Envy wrote:12agnar0k wrote:I didn't up it because he couldn't pay, I upped it because he was **Filtered**'ing me about and all relevancy no longer existed. He can still pay 7 mil to surrender that never changed.
It's like feeding a fat cat a small portian of dry cat food while he always ate the luxury food...
but the tricky qeustion is will the cat eat it ?

psht he will if you dont feed him anything else for 3 days...
No. like I said it was a verry tricky qeustion

Re: 12agnar0k is what he says hes not - an extortionist
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:55 am
by 12agnar0k
Envy wrote:12agnar0k wrote:Envy wrote:12agnar0k wrote:I didn't up it because he couldn't pay, I upped it because he was **Filtered**'ing me about and all relevancy no longer existed. He can still pay 7 mil to surrender that never changed.
It's like feeding a fat cat a small portian of dry cat food while he always ate the luxury food...
but the tricky qeustion is will the cat eat it ?

psht he will if you dont feed him anything else for 3 days...
No. like I said it was a verry tricky qeustion

Seriously... it will
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and ifrit, what was your last comment about, *woosh* went right over my head
Re: 12agnar0k is what he says hes not - an extortionist
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:54 am
by papa~smurf
An open Message to all current Tec Members:
RE: Surrender terms
Greeting
I am addressing all tec members on behalf of forgotten serenity. As our conflict enters into the 1.5-month mark, and after many comments posted on both sides, along with numerous threads in the main forum, I felt it was important to inform u of your options in this conflict, and FS current stance on your surrender.
FS, being a war alliance, is use to, and willing, to play under the current circumstance for as long as needed. We realize that Tec, as stated by your leadership, was/is a growth alliance with little or no war experience for most members. Far is it from FS to expect and ask players to live under a war experience for longer than that player wishes. It is clear from you’re account that many members of Tec have now gone inactive, logging on to only train. To this end, Fs wish to allow those who wish to leave this conflict, and return to any style of play u wish. This leaving will not be with any expectation of resources. We would only ask that u drop the Tec tag for the duration of the conflict. If u wish to return after the end, u would suffer no harm or conquest to your accounts. It is not FS intention to dismantle Tec, or cause the end to it as a viable alliance in this game.
In order to except this offer from FS u need to:
A) Surrender on forum or by PM to HC of FS
B) Remove your self from Tec and not supply with any resource (if members who leave are found to be supplying any combatants, they are once again in the war)
Thou this offer is not time sensitive, FS reserves the right to change the offer set forth with 24-hour notice.
Thank u for your time
Good gaming
Fear not
Papa~Smurf
Re: 12agnar0k is what he says hes not - an extortionist
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:38 am
by Iƒrit
ok 12ag let me re-word that, two members of techno have left the war, and FS decided no reperations were to be expected, that was what I was refering to, now papa has made another addition and I think FS are being very understanding about the conflict. I hope that is understanding for you, personally I see nothing wrong with reperations, everyone has their own opinions, but I have not and will not ever expect someone leaving war to ever make payment for such. I wish you luck in your endevors, this is the last time I post here, so if you have any questions or want a response PM me.
Re: 12agnar0k is what he says hes not - an extortionist
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:52 am
by 12agnar0k
Yes well pretty sure the first guy to leave Tech had to pay a tribute.
Just because the others refused or FS didnt bother, doesnt mean much to me.
We left one of their members go without paying.
But as for the rest their in the war till they repay damages caused by FS, or FS surrenders as a whole for all members in their war.
If they wanted a war with decent respectable outcomes, they should have warr'd after agreeing to conditions as such

I wont post here anymore either as the thread is redundant, just post in the war thread.
Re: 12agnar0k is what he says hes not - an extortionist
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:44 pm
by FreeSpirit
I have only one word to say : Karma

Re: 12agnar0k is what he says hes not - an extortionist
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:01 pm
by MajorLeeHurts
12agnar0k wrote:MLH and co you should just ask for that account back if he pretty much scammed you out of it.
In all honestly I dont think it was his intention to scam. Like I said I have known DS since his first day of playing SGW and I dont think he would do that to me or FS. He also wasnt aware the level of investment made by all FS members via Dues.
DS has made arrangements with Willie I am told.
Re: 12agnar0k is what he says hes not - an extortionist
Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:26 am
by Clarkey
Closed due to request by author.