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Rich™ wrote:yes, but simply put, dont want to play ascention? dont fricking ascend, would of saved alot of hassle

Sinister wrote:Forum - Is it just the Daimon that has double losses or is it the person they battle with too? We're a little confused on this (well, at least i am lol)

Forum wrote:ok - i can concede this... the daimon takes doulbe casualities in covert& battle (takes, not gives) .... keep bonuses, lose unique ascended blessing. no glory.
if you say "this is almost ok, but still gives them a little bit too much" then i can live with that
the point here is to give those who dont want to play ascension an 'out' ... without in effect resetting their account. this will leave those who want to play ascension, in ascension.

and if an update that allows ascended account to temporarily help main account ever comes out (no promises but no complete banning of the idea either), they would obviously not benefit...likewise if glory&rep in future provides a more direct benefit...

so - does this satisfy?

Forum wrote:yes..thats all.
i cannot see how losing double units on all 'actions' is not a negative... if it was 'one sided' (ie they lost 2x what opponent did) but did not apply to covert, would that be better somehow?? or worse?
i am still open for ...something..but want it to be original and 'ontop of' the bonuses (ie an extra penelty, opposed to less bonus...)

TipsY wrote:So being a Daimon...

PROS:
~ keeping the original bonus from ascensions (5% for prior, 10% for prophet and so on) for att/def/cov/anti/ms (anything else?)
~ better then hitting vac in ascended bonus vise
~ for those that do not want to play ascended, but keep bonuses

CONS:
~ if you wish to reascend, first you must go to normal race and start at 1 (prior) all over again
~ no ascended blessing
~ no "advanced races swapping" you are Daimon as race period

PRO & CON at same time:
~ double casualties when attacking someone (your attack forces and his def forces)
~ double casualties when defending an attack ( your def forces and his att forces)
~ double casualties when spying sabbing ACing (or failing)

Is that all?

Forum wrote:the 'game updates' are current. its 'one sided only' for now...

Sinister wrote:Forum - Is it just the Daimon that has double losses or is it the person they battle with too? We're a little confused on this (well, at least i am lol)

Forum wrote:the 'game updates' are current. its 'one sided only' for now...

Sinister wrote:Forum - Is it just the Daimon that has double losses or is it the person they battle with too? We're a little confused on this (well, at least i am lol)

Munchy wrote:I personally like it better the other way, because can you imagine trying to mass while being a daimon and taking twice the losses of the other guy, and them not? It would be a fruitless endeavor. But obviously you can't please the everyone, so it is probably alright.

Still think twice losses on both sides would be interesting. It would actually add abit of strategy to who you have in your alliance. Having a mix of living gods and daimons would provide interesting gameplay during wars, unlike the current state of all living gods or AG's, ect. But, meh...

clarkey wrote:Has the max ascensions on Main been lifted?
My friend couldn't ascend to AG+1.

Forum wrote:that was my thinking too, but if it makes the daimon more powerful than the ascends, sorta defeats the purpose...
i like the 'double edge sword' concept of a daimon. if i can think of a 'good' other double edge, i will add (if i can do it in next day or 2, as after that i want to finalize the update so people can use it if they wish )
the ascended curse i am not sold on --i think it would make planning/strategy very hard... although will think a bit more on this...

Sinister wrote:Causing losses on both sides, even if it is 60/40 or whatever, makes it more beneficial to be a daimon. Keep in mind, those who still play ascended will stil have to worry about retaliation on that server while the daimons do not, and most daimons will have a bigger % boost to there main accounts. And before anyone says it, im not talking about me fearing retaliation, though now i do have to worry about that a little more