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Jedi~Tank wrote:OE and DDE are much stronger in Power, talent, enthusiasm, and clear direction for the future.

Sounds like the ingredients for a successful Australian Idol contestant. Give us your victory song then...

Sure, give me your ingame ID

~Insider Trader~ wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:We are claiming victory anyways, its been a long time coming..and the community isnt going to see us as silly or otherwise

Warring for 479 days is silly.

/throws 2 cents in/

I doubt most people outside the main factions give much of a stuff anyway anymore. Like in most real life wars, when you count the cost of your losses, not just your kills, it's hard to say there are any winners out of this. Just a lot of bad blood between those left standing. So what if victory is claimed. Both sides preach to their own converted and it's not going to garner any more respect from anyone else. It's certainly not going to end the conflict.

Actually quite a few of the 'outside' parties do care about the war and the state that it's in.

1. Some care because they see it as killing the game and therefore for the games sake the two sides should let it end. Obviously there are two schools of thought on this - one is to allow a ceasefire, the other is that whenever the opposition surrender the war can be over. Though consider this, one side has already said that they will not surrender and will no longer accept a ceasefire – and that wasn’t FUALL.

2. Others care because it means they don't need quite as much defence and don't get farmed as often. While OE and DDE have moved on from the so called server war, we still have not yet really built strikes up to what they could be. Hence various members of the gaming community do not get hit as much as they would otherwise. Those members of the GW Community are very interested in the outcome and the status of the war.

3. Yet others are interested in the state of the war because they do not want to be involved. As can be seen by the posts in the HR thread and in the Disavow HR thread, many alliances do not wish to be associated with either side beyond some trading and interaction.

There's numerous outside parties interested for a variety of reasons.

As for ending the conflict, the server war that started with the massing of TJP is over since TJP is gone. That is something that not even the survivors of TJP want to argue since they know that it's true. Now all that remains is the mopping up of the recalcitrant guerrilla fighters who like to think that massing someone every 2-3 weeks means they are fighting. Given that both DDE and OE are ‘war’ alliances, being massed is an occupational hazard of membership.

Yes good points there Tekki, I agree that alliances are interested in the status of the war, but many would be apathetic about the outcome given that if the war does end there will no doubt be another year of bickering about it.

Jedi~Tank wrote:Sure, give me your ingame ID

There is current thread discussing why people don't come and post on the forums. That line quoted is one of the reasons.

Wise Wise Tekki

Tekki wrote:[

1. Some care because they see it as killing the game and therefore for the games sake the two sides should let it end. Obviously there are two schools of thought on this - one is to allow a ceasefire, the other is that whenever the opposition surrender the war can be over. Though consider this, one side has already said that they will not surrender and will no longer accept a ceasefire – and that wasn’t FUALL.

2. Others care because it means they don't need quite as much defence and don't get farmed as often. While OE and DDE have moved on from the so called server war, we still have not yet really built strikes up to what they could be. Hence various members of the gaming community do not get hit as much as they would otherwise. Those members of the GW Community are very interested in the outcome and the status of the war.

3. Yet others are interested in the state of the war because they do not want to be involved. As can be seen by the posts in the HR thread and in the Disavow HR thread, many alliances do not wish to be associated with either side beyond some trading and interaction.

1. ahh hard to say

2. THIS IS EXTREMELY TRUE!!!, i can have a 17b def and a sizeable turn income i still get hit for only 50b.. why? cause FUALL vs Whoever takes up all the bloody AT's in the game so there are basically noone left to hit the random guy for naq...

3. EXACTLY!!! everyone has to keep an eye on it bacause it basically runs the game and you need to know what is going on to avoid pissing people off

yeah well thats me

solmyr wrote:Wise Wise Tekki

Tekki wrote:1. Some care because they see it as killing the game and therefore for the games sake the two sides should let it end. Obviously there are two schools of thought on this - one is to allow a ceasefire, the other is that whenever the opposition surrender the war can be over. Though consider this, one side has already said that they will not surrender and will no longer accept a ceasefire – and that wasn’t FUALL.

2. Others care because it means they don't need quite as much defence and don't get farmed as often. While OE and DDE have moved on from the so called server war, we still have not yet really built strikes up to what they could be. Hence various members of the gaming community do not get hit as much as they would otherwise. Those members of the GW Community are very interested in the outcome and the status of the war.

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1. ahh hard to say

2. THIS IS EXTREMELY TRUE!!!, i can have a 17b def and a sizeable turn income i still get hit for only 50b.. why? cause FUALL vs Whoever takes up all the bloody AT's in the game so there are basically noone left to hit the random guy for naq...

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Speaking to one of them with the view that the server war is killing game, their reasoning was because the turns are so expensive that we should stop so that new peoples can afford them again. Because of this, that no one can afford turns, you can have a larger amount of naq out on a rather sub standard defence.

I don’t know what the validity of the argument is though as turn prices have always gone up as time has continued simply because of ingame inflation. 10million was once a huge army, then 50mill then 200m etc etc... and thus as the income available ingame has gone up, so have the turn prices. There’s also all the random massing going on. No one really builds much of a defence.

That’s my counter argument but perhaps someone can articulate the economic view of the server war destroying game a bit better for all of us. Person I was talking to last night, I’m looking at you.

Kaps1, that’s your cue.

jeez how many posts are we going to see about xxx all having no defence built, lets look at some facts. A lot of FUAll have great stats including defence, alot of the rest dont, why is this ? well from my point of view my account is far behind a lot of the FUAll acounts especially in relation to motherships so it is a hell of a waste of resources building a def that usually lasts 2 hours when the resources spent on that can goto ms building and cov/ac level increases plus the little fact of increasing army size. Im sure you would find if accounts were roughly equal then yes defs would be built and for the record i usually build 1 500 bill def each month just for fun and it disappears shortly after, you know who you are Its not just non FUAll accounts that build no def otherwise how could i farm on average upto 3 trill naq per day

Military Records and Achievements
AS OF Sep 02, 2009

Naquadah Stolen(0.0001) 68,509,945,296,925

the day this war will over there will be no more GW community or fair game play.

what can u excpect from fuall. a bunch of ppl who could not hold a fight wit honor.
do u remember tekki:::: 7 farms and Borek:: that was what left one of yr alliances. then lets recruit everyone , whatever , lets recruit also TTF members, pffffff

Lol Lithium please answer my following question:

How much interaction have you had with FUALL (apart from the server war)? How often did you contact us and tried to TALK to us? It's easy to point fingers and make accusations based on false claim, propaganda and make believe. It's a LOT harder to actually TRY and get to know the people and how and what they do. The FUALL I'm in now has very much honor and can be very much reasoned with (if you know how and what to say (I don't mean kissing ass, I mean having a respectful tone and NOT dropping random insults)), you're just too blind and bitter to see it. You should think about that

well im showing ya one case, happened few months b4 war.

i was being farmed a bit often by dde member , pmed the member to be resonable, no reply i got,
so i was takin from dde what they were taking from. was contacted not to hit their inactives.
so i claimed ya dont farm me for that less and i dont farm back.

went in negotiations wit Jedimasterx and while accepting a official reply i got massed.
so what can i excpect , where is the honor in that ???

You sure picked the right one to talk to <_<

You should have talked to the diplomat at that time, and that was Lore. But yeah I can see your problem with what happened and that wasn't cool and I don't think that should be acceptable.

Tekki if you are so concerned about GW future that maybe Fuall should surrender so smaller accounts will be able to buy turns cheaper after all who did start this war?

well you guys are all still fighting so i guess at the end of the day, why do you argue???

you guys honestly have to enjoy the war why else keep it going this long, you can name call and finger point all you want but at the end of the day, you guys know you have some fun and some respect for one another..

thats just what i see..

beliblisk wrote:Tekki if you are so concerned about GW future that maybe Fuall should surrender so smaller accounts will be able to buy turns cheaper after all who did start this war?

umm your side started it, and thats a fact bud

Jedi~Tank wrote:

beliblisk wrote:Tekki if you are so concerned about GW future that maybe Fuall should surrender so smaller accounts will be able to buy turns cheaper after all who did start this war?

umm your side started it, and thats a fact bud

Ok..but still why not you Fuall surrender for the servers sake if you seem to be such a good guys?