Massing Updates

[Robe]

Looks like its fixed now

[Deadliest Wes]

much better now with the prices

[stuff of legends]

more reasonable gf forum.

[twistie666]

bring back the old school massings

[Lithium]

bring back the old school massings

yea the times when everyone should mass on its own.

[twistie666]

lithium i think we should put a poll on to see who thinks we should so we can ask admin to do it haha

[Lithium]

can weaps POWER go back tyo where it was b4?

checking ranks we can see unmassable accounts unless there are 5 accounts funding the striker.

pretty much u did it with undescended accounts now here u have unmassable ones in main as a challenge.

[Tekki]

The only problem I have with these updates, now that I looked at the costs a bit is that it very seriously makes new alliances screwed. Because the prices are member based, not income based a big alliance, with small accounts - and thus no income can't afford to buy anything.

While the argument is of course 'it's a gift' it's not a gift if you can't afford it ever. This is an update skewed seriously towards the alliances with 5 people with 500million army sizes. They can afford stuff - big alliance income, small member count, while anyone with less can't.

If the average income of an alliance member is say 20b per turn and the average alliance size is 20 people, then the income generated per turn for the alliance bank is 4billion so per day is 192billion. The cost of an alliance repair is 100billion ish, so the alliance can only afford one alliance repair a day. And can't afford anything else much that week. So many one alliance repair and 2 of the 4 PPTs.

And let's not even go into what it's going to do for bank size increase - which are desperately needed by the new players....

I agree that the cost should have gone up and that the number of repairs needed to come down (and I think the number is fine) BUT the cost has still gone up too high to make it useful and the way that it's now calculated is definitely against types of alliances. It is in fact encouraging people to disband and reform their alliances each year, just to keep the costs down but it is also very discriminatory in a mathematical sense against alliances with small incomes and lots of people.

[Robe]

I agree that the cost should have gone up and that the number of repairs needed to come down (and I think the number is fine) BUT the cost has still gone up too high to make it useful and the way that it's now calculated is definitely against types of alliances. It is in fact encouraging people to disband and reform their alliances each year, just to keep the costs down but it is also very discriminatory in a mathematical sense against alliances with small incomes and lots of people.

I agree with Tekki that the calculation needs to be reduced for gifts.

Also, alliances need more than 6 strike weapon repairs a day to mass big defences in wars.

This was meant to be a massing update not a defence update

[Lithium]

a gift whish is not a gift then why it exists?? its more an allowed bug then a gift, which doesnt apply to everyone.

[~Odin~]

I agree that the cost should have gone up and that the number of repairs needed to come down (and I think the number is fine) BUT the cost has still gone up too high to make it useful and the way that it's now calculated is definitely against types of alliances. It is in fact encouraging people to disband and reform their alliances each year, just to keep the costs down but it is also very discriminatory in a mathematical sense against alliances with small incomes and lots of people.

I agree with Tekki that the calculation needs to be reduced for gifts.

Also, alliances need more than 6 strike weapon repairs a day to mass big defences in wars.

This was meant to be a massing update not a defence update

+1

[stuff of legends]

a gift whish is not a gift then why it exists?? its more an allowed bug then a gift, which doesnt apply to everyone.

the gift is the option i guess.