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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:08 pm
by Forum
thank you. that is the point.
and it's not actually storing big numbers as much as php giving the right number to store and the fact that e is not E


Agapooka wrote:SGBlackOps1, thank you for creating a horizontal scrollbar. It's annoying as hell.

Who are you to say that your method is better? Who cares if there is a way to store larger numbers? That was only a minor part of the issue. The large part of the issue revolved around the fact that alliance power wasn't balanced enough with those large numbers.

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:12 pm
by agapooka
Well, ok, not storing, but processing the string or rather, real value that must be stored :P.

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:14 pm
by Desnar
But once you seralize the values, you only have significant figures left.

But to store all individual values (my example will be six places per column). Column A represents values 1-6 (let them be 346764). B is the same (359901). And C is partially used (23). Now with tons of parsing and quite a heavy load on the CPU, we get 23,359,901,346,764. Im sure there are better systems, this is just to help get my point across but who needs numbers that big? Only exxon to count their overly large bank accounts. My exaggerated impossible meant not worth it. I didn't mean to flame you but Im quick to jump in for defending flames.

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:29 pm
by SGBlackOps1
Agapooka wrote:Well, ok, not storing, but processing the string or rather, real value that must be stored :P.
may i ask what version of mysql are we useing?

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:43 pm
by agapooka
Might I say; who gives a defecation?

Either you are unable to read, or you are unable to fully comprehend what you are reading, or you refuse to read, or maybe you simply don't care. None of those are wanted here, really. As Forum himself said, the whole point of this isn't even about how large the real values that can be stored in the database are.

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:50 pm
by TRA
SGBlackOps1 wrote:
Agapooka wrote:Well, ok, not storing, but processing the string or rather, real value that must be stored :P.
may i ask what version of mysql are we useing?


Well; I am using 5.0.20a...
It's legally free at ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/unix/databases/r ... 686.tar.gz

What are you using?

Or did you by "we" mean admin? :wink:

--T

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:50 pm
by Desnar
Yeah... It no longer has any point to argue here. The action taken to cut covert has nothing to do with SQL or PHP coding. It was done to rebalance the game itself, not the machine behind the game.

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:53 pm
by TRA
Ok, maybe it's spamming - and sorry about that... My point is merely "so what?"

First off, it's not up to us. Second off, I don't really believe it's the dataprosessing that's the biggest issue here...

From how I read admin, this is ment to make the game more fair...

--T

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:00 pm
by Desnar
TRA wrote:Ok, maybe it's spamming - and sorry about that... My point is merely "so what?"

First off, it's not up to us. Second off, I don't really believe it's the dataprosessing that's the biggest issue here...

From how I read admin, this is ment to make the game more fair...

--T


Win. My point

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:46 pm
by gordash
These changes are really good in that they show the alliances who were working only on covert in order to look good in the alliance rankings, not having any real atk or def power.

CRYSTAL FORCE ELITE AND CRYSTAL FORCE IN THE TOP 10!!!!

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:24 pm
by JIX
gordash wrote:These changes are really good in that they show the alliances who were working only on covert in order to look good in the alliance rankings, not having any real atk or def power.

CRYSTAL FORCE ELITE AND CRYSTAL FORCE IN THE TOP 10!!!!
CFE has twice as many members as omega and still under them

CF has 20% of the game in their alliance i guess all that 200million defences start adding up when you have close to 300 members(farms)

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:55 pm
by god of darkness
the alliance rankings changed a lot.
but it's not to bad :)

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:08 pm
by KibaWolf
I believe this is a good time to bring up the fact that we need to be warned of these updates prior to them occurring.
It would end the mass confusion panic and quell some of the anger shown by members in these events.

As I have mentioned in another topic on this subject I am strongly against the latest covert changes.

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:14 pm
by Forum
any particular reason?

now alliance and commander rank measure rank, not just covert.

now your calculator does not need trillions to be input.

the actual effect is basicly nothing on personal ranks, since it affected everyone (ok could have affected everyone a bit quicker or at once, but the minute you used covert, it updated all parties involved) equally

the biggest effect is you can now see a bit higher up the (covert) ranks without getting ???

would it be the same statement if i divided the old score by 100 ?

"i hate it" is all fine and dandy, but since i cannot really see a 'real' effect of the change outside alliance/commander rank, and you give no reasoning, i'll assume its cosmetic and you just like seeing big numbers...

are you the one that sent that nice email about my mother?
KibaWolf wrote:As I have mentioned in another topic on this subject I am strongly against the latest covert changes.

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:55 pm
by KibaWolf
Next time could you at least warn us.
It would end all this confusion you constantly throw around each time this happens.