Re: "own thread"
Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:00 pm
After reading through this thread it seems apparent that at least from the Mod's perspective, Forum seemed hell bent on giving them an extra MT. Why now?
And it seems Forum had a long chat to "some" of the mods concerning what other perks they should get. So not only is the general community not alerted to this but "allegedly" not all the mods are either? Has the top brass had a few too many? I mean seriously, it's not as if the public outcry came as a shock, this should have been public from the beginning.
And let's say there were Mods of less then decent stature in that conversation with Forum, he didn't mind giving them extra so imagine what they could of asked for and got away with. The mind reels.
What about certain mods being unaware? New names turn up ingame and we hear about it because a regular player notices and decides to query on forums. And Mods were unaware of that, so I guess no voting happened there either. You'd think that after getting something out of the blue like that you'd ask a few more questions or their fellow Mods would have informed them of things to come.
Would it not be posted in the Mod's section of the forums? Something of such significance? Surely it was. If so then why did other Mods not know? Perhaps they didn't see it there, so perhaps they haven't visited their section of the forums. Wait... If they weren't there then they aren't really doing their jobs? So if they aren't doing their jobs pray tell where is all this time and effort that is claimed to be the reasoning behind their bonuses going? Golf?
The forums are 2 years and 7 months old and in that time the Mods never received material rewards, it was rumored that there was insider information being passed on but I think someone already commented about someone coming full circle. So what has changed to warrant rewards? Has the forum suddenly had an influx of members with Tourettes? I remember the forum being a lot hairier in times gone by and Mod rewards were not even thought of.
So Forum, why now? I really don't see him coming out of the blue with this all on his own when he could have done so on a multitude of previous occasions. So if he didn't come up with it alone as has been suggested, who planted the seed?
As for the names? Pffft. Let them eat cake. I think for the effort that they do put in a humble extra name is entirely within the fair realm.
However why not change the reward from being based on being a Mod to being a good Mod? Make sure they are working for the title as, if what is being said is correct and there isn't any other freebies to be handed out, it is the only reward they are going to get.
Case in point, Teal'auc and Jake. Teal'auc insulted Jake, Jake replied in kind and ouch, pain, agony... It's the same story over and over again. Geisha got ousted because of it but that occurred because there was a following. In the end she wasn't as popular as Teal'auc. Mods need accountability and despite countless instances of abuse little has been done short of removable from office.
So if we can't have a direct chat to them for fear of having our backside's handed to us as we touch our toes like good forum goers should, make their perks votable?
You want your custom ingame title? Don't just be a Mod, be a good Mod. We have had many Mods before you who didn't have rewards, if you want them, prove that you are better and do your job well.
If you do it well and we, the community, agree then you get a
vote and you keep your title. If you jump behind two way rules from protection then 
for you, get enough of them and no more custom name, shame shame shame. Might convince you to get your act together or if you don't care, it may not. Either way it isn't a direct threat to your Modship so you're safe for the time being and it gives us people a small way of having our voices heard. And for the most part we are a rather petty bunch so seeing a bad Mod without a name will fill us with some short lived glee.
Oh and lastly, heaven forbid the public get a say as to what the Mods get as a perk for serving us, the community. If we can't vote the government in or out then we're sure as hell going to dictate how much of our tax you get.
And it seems Forum had a long chat to "some" of the mods concerning what other perks they should get. So not only is the general community not alerted to this but "allegedly" not all the mods are either? Has the top brass had a few too many? I mean seriously, it's not as if the public outcry came as a shock, this should have been public from the beginning.
And let's say there were Mods of less then decent stature in that conversation with Forum, he didn't mind giving them extra so imagine what they could of asked for and got away with. The mind reels.
What about certain mods being unaware? New names turn up ingame and we hear about it because a regular player notices and decides to query on forums. And Mods were unaware of that, so I guess no voting happened there either. You'd think that after getting something out of the blue like that you'd ask a few more questions or their fellow Mods would have informed them of things to come.
Would it not be posted in the Mod's section of the forums? Something of such significance? Surely it was. If so then why did other Mods not know? Perhaps they didn't see it there, so perhaps they haven't visited their section of the forums. Wait... If they weren't there then they aren't really doing their jobs? So if they aren't doing their jobs pray tell where is all this time and effort that is claimed to be the reasoning behind their bonuses going? Golf?
The forums are 2 years and 7 months old and in that time the Mods never received material rewards, it was rumored that there was insider information being passed on but I think someone already commented about someone coming full circle. So what has changed to warrant rewards? Has the forum suddenly had an influx of members with Tourettes? I remember the forum being a lot hairier in times gone by and Mod rewards were not even thought of.
So Forum, why now? I really don't see him coming out of the blue with this all on his own when he could have done so on a multitude of previous occasions. So if he didn't come up with it alone as has been suggested, who planted the seed?
As for the names? Pffft. Let them eat cake. I think for the effort that they do put in a humble extra name is entirely within the fair realm.
However why not change the reward from being based on being a Mod to being a good Mod? Make sure they are working for the title as, if what is being said is correct and there isn't any other freebies to be handed out, it is the only reward they are going to get.
Case in point, Teal'auc and Jake. Teal'auc insulted Jake, Jake replied in kind and ouch, pain, agony... It's the same story over and over again. Geisha got ousted because of it but that occurred because there was a following. In the end she wasn't as popular as Teal'auc. Mods need accountability and despite countless instances of abuse little has been done short of removable from office.
So if we can't have a direct chat to them for fear of having our backside's handed to us as we touch our toes like good forum goers should, make their perks votable?
You want your custom ingame title? Don't just be a Mod, be a good Mod. We have had many Mods before you who didn't have rewards, if you want them, prove that you are better and do your job well.
If you do it well and we, the community, agree then you get a
vote and you keep your title. If you jump behind two way rules from protection then for you, get enough of them and no more custom name, shame shame shame. Might convince you to get your act together or if you don't care, it may not. Either way it isn't a direct threat to your Modship so you're safe for the time being and it gives us people a small way of having our voices heard. And for the most part we are a rather petty bunch so seeing a bad Mod without a name will fill us with some short lived glee.Oh and lastly, heaven forbid the public get a say as to what the Mods get as a perk for serving us, the community. If we can't vote the government in or out then we're sure as hell going to dictate how much of our tax you get.
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How the times have changed, just shows a dictatorship is in effect, of course this forum is not a free world, and the "truth" can not be told it seems. If that meeting did take place (and as a qualified journalist) exposing that to the community is a good thing.. I applaude you EtL and if anyone else gets banned for this it only proves that EtL is right about it.