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arkangel13 wrote:SCREW ADMIN FOR THESE CHANGES. HOW THE HELL CAN A SMALL GUY GROW BY NOT GETTING TURNS TO USE.

iD SAY WE ALL START GOING TO ADMIN MEETINGS AND CALLING Him out.

Be nice. but please do attend the meetings but i'd watch your tongue there as well, no matter how angry you are/get

Well Said.
We should all be there, as im sensing this is a 'liveUpdate' and with enough pressue, and yes, some $$ spenders to say we wount take that crap it might change this call.

on another note, i think if he would have dropped the ATs only by half of what he did, the effect would be positive in my eyes.
But THATS JUST ME.

DG

when is the meeting and how do you attend. i have never attended or used the chat function so pardon the noobish question?

Friday:

08:30 gametime
15:30 gametime

deni wrote:

Lore wrote:

deni wrote:

MaxSterling wrote:

Lore wrote:I have to agree with Z, What incentive is there for the older players to stay if they been here 5 yrs and a 6 month old account can stomp them in the ground?

Fact is the new comer HAS the advantage. The game is new and exciting to them where someone who has been here 5 yrs is bored and sick to death of it. Its called the cycle of life, the older players leave the game allowing the best of the newer players to rise up and take their places.

Now I have no issues with it taking a new player 2.5 yrs to do what took others 5 yrs, but a 6 month (or less) account competing with a 5yr old account make the game pointless by the same measure that you argue For the new accounts.

A new comer has no more of an advantage than anyone else that puts in the time and effort. The only way a new player can stomp an old player in the ground, is if the old player isn't doing **Filtered** with their account.... banking and training.

The old player reached the plague... build your MS or a couple of kickass duals.

This update appeals to the lazy ass old school players that don't want to put forth any time or effort to staying at top. So they want to slow everyone else down. It's as simple as that.

Well said again Max.

LOL, that is so funny because apparently no one evenm understood what was said.

meh


LOL

I do understand very well what Max said because he and me seem to be on the same wave length regarding the matter probably due to a similar playing style.

Maybe you did not understand him as you do not play?

LOL

again, you dont seem to understand what was said, so I'll let this go. I said my piece and if anyone takes the time to read it they will find I AM NOT FOR THIS UPDATE. That seems to be overlooked.

Sir Phoenix Knight wrote:more like it will be like Duals and admin will sell them off the market for like 500 USD per planet

imagine all the winning then when someone gets that taken off them

Ecspecially since the bug STILL exists where you can lose them and not be allowed to reclaim them, which he has know about and not fixed for some time now.

Lore wrote:

deni wrote:

Lore wrote:

deni wrote:

MaxSterling wrote:

Lore wrote:I have to agree with Z, What incentive is there for the older players to stay if they been here 5 yrs and a 6 month old account can stomp them in the ground?

Fact is the new comer HAS the advantage. The game is new and exciting to them where someone who has been here 5 yrs is bored and sick to death of it. Its called the cycle of life, the older players leave the game allowing the best of the newer players to rise up and take their places.

Now I have no issues with it taking a new player 2.5 yrs to do what took others 5 yrs, but a 6 month (or less) account competing with a 5yr old account make the game pointless by the same measure that you argue For the new accounts.

A new comer has no more of an advantage than anyone else that puts in the time and effort. The only way a new player can stomp an old player in the ground, is if the old player isn't doing **Filtered** with their account.... banking and training.

The old player reached the plague... build your MS or a couple of kickass duals.

This update appeals to the lazy ass old school players that don't want to put forth any time or effort to staying at top. So they want to slow everyone else down. It's as simple as that.

Well said again Max.

LOL, that is so funny because apparently no one evenm understood what was said.

meh


LOL

I do understand very well what Max said because he and me seem to be on the same wave length regarding the matter probably due to a similar playing style.

Maybe you did not understand him as you do not play?

LOL

again, you dont seem to understand what was said, so I'll let this go. I said my piece and if anyone takes the time to read it they will find I AM NOT FOR THIS UPDATE. That seems to be overlooked.

I admire the arrogance in you presuming that you can judge if I do understand what Max said or not. It amazes me.

So please, enlighten me. What part of Max posts did I not understand?

u didn't understand deni that a older guy doesn't know to play this game just with banking and log off while newcomers are so used with attacks and they have advantage from this

still is not fair a 16 hours player to be better then a 10 minutes clicker

Lore and Deni

Deni and everyone else arguing with Lore,
I do not think that Lore is pro or counter this market update, because I don't think that it affects him and if it is to generalise, i think that few players who pay with naq for ATs are affected by this. Simply: the ATs will always exist at a steady flow, because there are more semiactive players (AT sellers) than hyperactive (AT spenders) and there are not that many who buy ATs with their market turns. The control unit for this is the ammount of naq that can be farmed from innactives, that is proffitable for the hyperactive farmer and also the UU price (but i'm not going to explain this because it gives me headaches and few will understand anyway).


Lore said it very well here and i have said it too, over here and i qoute: "less ingame market turns -> less bm market turns for 1$ -> players need to spend more $ for his crap". Both Lore and me admitted that we (I at least) will not be buying turns from his black market with $ as a protest for his lack of interest for the gamers (also observable in the "game updates" page of the game - rather lack of... significant/good ones). The $$$ is the only thing that interests admin... all the updates were made for his pocket... when he saw an oportunity he released the updates that gave him more $ at that time. And all that resulted in what the game is today.

this update is so wrong the lil guys need $$$ to catch up now,

$wars ftl

deni wrote:I admire the arrogance in you presuming that you can judge if I do understand what Max said or not. It amazes me.

So please, enlighten me. What part of Max posts did I not understand?

Show me where I said ANYTHING about weather you understood max or not.

You seem to either be misunderstanding or ignoring what I said.

I never said you didnt understand what max said, reread my post and you will see.

anyway, I said my piece, if you want a better or more clear explination we can continue in PM.

I'm personally not very affected by this. When my ATs I bought from market for $$ (when it was 13k ATs for $$, should have bought x2 but oh well) will be burnt completly into farming, I will go back into good old PPT naq banking which enabled me to get most of 200-230mil or so uu I obtained in my growth.
Until I get again enough ATs and farm again. This way I remain uneffected by all of this.

as it was only today that i saw the extreme decrease in ATs from the market, i was a little shocked, but can see how this is a bad and yet still a good thing.

not sure if anyone has posted this yet cuz i didnt go through all 15 pages very carefully, but ill tell ya this much, if you get massed from now one, and especially people with HUGE defenses, you musta REALLY did something to deserve it at the current rate of the MTs LOL

Beelzebub wrote:as it was only today that i saw the extreme decrease in ATs from the market, i was a little shocked, but can see how this is a bad and yet still a good thing.

not sure if anyone has posted this yet cuz i didnt go through all 15 pages very carefully, but ill tell ya this much, if you get massed from now one, and especially people with HUGE defenses, you musta REALLY did something to deserve it at the current rate of the MTs LOL

I doubt it.

They only lost about 25% of their AT for $$, where as those whom traded their MT went from 320 -> 16, lost about 95% of their AT generation

Sarevok wrote:

Beelzebub wrote:as it was only today that i saw the extreme decrease in ATs from the market, i was a little shocked, but can see how this is a bad and yet still a good thing.

not sure if anyone has posted this yet cuz i didnt go through all 15 pages very carefully, but ill tell ya this much, if you get massed from now one, and especially people with HUGE defenses, you musta REALLY did something to deserve it at the current rate of the MTs LOL

I doubt it.

They only lost about 25% of their AT for $$, where as those whom traded their MT went from 320 -> 16, lost about 95% of their AT generation

Very true!

So is protesting against this update gonna do anything? Or are we stuck with it, like it or leave?

I think no one knows this yet...from what I can read. But if it remains, why would anyone quit? In my oppinion will be more fun this way and the team spirit will grow a lot