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Re: TAF- Relearning the lessons of history..
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:19 am
by Field Marshall
Rudy Pena wrote:Field Marshall wrote:Rudy Pena wrote:Mathlord wrote:So are you Wrath or still Zeus? I know Zeus used to be Desert Phantom haha. So many possibilities! I can't knock it too much, everyone seems to be account swapping these days and it drives me crazy trying to keep up with it all.
A very confused Mathlord still on his old beaten up original account
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Wrath of Achilles is in vac mode, as Im on Zeus.
Just to settle an argument...you did at one point have level 39 right?
No I have not.
Damn
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xDaku was right...
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Re: TAF- Relearning the lessons of history..
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:22 am
by xDaku
You know how much I love saying I told you so
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Re: TAF- Relearning the lessons of history..
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:24 am
by Mathlord
Huxley wrote:I still think your missing the point here, neither side can argue about $ spending so don't bring it into the equation, Mathlord.
And both sides have used temp PPTs ad nauseum yet you bring it up all the time?
If you guys want a war/war blood feud with no PPTs, then we would need other conditions. Otherwise unlimited uu on a 40/40 with war/war would burn through someone in an onliner.
Anyway for now, we'll just keep playing our cat and mouse game, planning out our moves three steps ahead and we'll see what happens...
Re: TAF- Relearning the lessons of history..
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:57 am
by Rudy Peña
Field Marshall wrote:Rudy Pena wrote:Field Marshall wrote:Rudy Pena wrote:Mathlord wrote:So are you Wrath or still Zeus? I know Zeus used to be Desert Phantom haha. So many possibilities! I can't knock it too much, everyone seems to be account swapping these days and it drives me crazy trying to keep up with it all.
A very confused Mathlord still on his old beaten up original account
![[043.gif] :smt043](./images/smilies/043.gif)
Wrath of Achilles is in vac mode, as Im on Zeus.
Just to settle an argument...you did at one point have level 39 right?
No I have not.
Damn
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xDaku was right...
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Lol yes he was/is right. But i will have 39 soon for like 20 seconds, before i buy 40.......once i win the lotto.

Re: TAF- Relearning the lessons of history..
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:59 am
by dgb
38 out of reach for me your a lky lot

Re: TAF- Relearning the lessons of history..
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:37 am
by BMMJ13
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:He applied to the TA, and within a few hours, instead of the usual two week waiting period, he was let in to the alliance.
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:Please don't delude yourself. No omegan has ever gotten in without a vote. Perhaps Pi or on occasion Alpha, but never Omega. The only ones who get in easily are those who were already Omegan in the past and returned to the game. This is no secret. Every Omegan can tell you the same. I don't claim to know your mind or what alliance you were in, so don't claim to know mine or Omega's.
Hypocrisy so fast? Perhaps you should stick to ascended massings, gathering (bad) intel doesn't seem to suit you well anymore.
Re: TAF- Relearning the lessons of history..
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:51 am
by SSG EnterTheLion
BMMJ13 wrote:SSG EnterTheLion wrote:He applied to the TA, and within a few hours, instead of the usual two week waiting period, he was let in to the alliance.
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:Please don't delude yourself. No omegan has ever gotten in without a vote. Perhaps Pi or on occasion Alpha, but never Omega. The only ones who get in easily are those who were already Omegan in the past and returned to the game. This is no secret. Every Omegan can tell you the same. I don't claim to know your mind or what alliance you were in, so don't claim to know mine or Omega's.
Hypocrisy so fast? Perhaps you should stick to ascended massings, gathering (bad) intel doesn't seem to suit you well anymore.
The difference is I wasn't CLAIMING. I was stating fact. Your own alliance members have informed that it usually takes 2 weeks, but yet Hux was let in within hours of applying. And then within hours of that, given 3IC. And I believe you yourself gave him 2ic. Now whatever you might claim, giving someone you mistrust 2IC can seriosly **Filtered** up one's day. If I had ordered him to kick most of your members, or remove TA from your house, he would have done it. And don't tell me you KNEW he wouldn't! It's like someone inviting a paedophile into one's home when one has little kids and told, have at it, I'm out for a bit, you're in charge! (Don't go reading anything into the comparision as Hux is most definitely not a paedo.)
Yet there is not a single one from Omega, since our founding that you can find who was let in just like that. So think before you post.
Re: TAF- Relearning the lessons of history..
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:02 am
by BMMJ13
There was never a 2 week waiting period and we always require a vote, but nice try on saying a few members told you, perhaps strike force wasn't a good person to ask? As for the 2ic, that would be called a test, or did you think we would do such a thing without 1ic offline waiting to see if something happened? As it turned out, Omegas greed lead them to keep it a secret, which I found interesting and telling of Omega itself, because Omega didn't want to actually use Huxley to mass us easier, you just didn't want to mass us at all, hence why you to tried to break NAPs and heavily farm to try to start a war. Only problem is, we knew the whole time and kept relations in check and actually ended up stronger allies with everyone you tried to mess with. I wonder how all those alliances feel now, after you tried to use them to do what you could not?
Re: TAF- Relearning the lessons of history..
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:03 am
by IFLuX
Re: TAF- Relearning the lessons of history..
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:05 am
by Ashu
Yet you didn't do those things, you didn't ask Huxley to disband or rename or kick our members. You let him ride the wave. So did we. Most intelligence services do that, you tail your tail, provide counter-intelligence. Over the years, predictability ensues and i cannot say most of us at TAF are ignorant to what your tricks are.
Re: TAF- Relearning the lessons of history..
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:26 am
by SSG EnterTheLion
BMMJ13 wrote:There was never a 2 week waiting period and we always require a vote, but nice try on saying a few members told you, perhaps strike force wasn't a good person to ask? As for the 2ic, that would be called a test, or did you think we would do such a thing without 1ic offline waiting to see if something happened? As it turned out, Omegas greed lead them to keep it a secret, which I found interesting and telling of Omega itself, because Omega didn't want to actually use Huxley to mass us easier, you just didn't want to mass us at all, hence why you to tried to break NAPs and heavily farm to try to start a war. Only problem is, we knew the whole time and kept relations in check and actually ended up stronger allies with everyone you tried to mess with. I wonder how all those alliances feel now, after you tried to use them to do what you could not?
Even if 1IC was online, once someone in IC moves the alliance, you can't move back and regain benefits easily, so your argument doesn't cut it. As for NAPs we had none with u. It was a TAF member who massed Rahl and someone else first, so don't talk crap.
As for Omega needing other alliances, lmao!!! You lot can't even declare war without preparing to run into ppt. Prove me wrong and order every TAF member off ppt and I will order the same. We both declare war and we'll see who comes out on top. Surely 100 members can take on a handful!
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Re: TAF- Relearning the lessons of history..
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:32 am
by BMMJ13
I think you misunderstand what a test is and how a member moving the alliance's house without permission would be dealt with. Yes, he could of done temporary damage, but it was a risk we took to find out what you would try. Anything he would of tried would of given away his position automatically, and we had someone watching if he tried something to have him kicked as soon as he did. You don't honestly think we would know he's a spy and give him a 2ic without some kind of reasoning behind it do you, or are omega unable to understand higher concepts?
As for your statement about being off ppt and declaring war, nah. I've been in war with omega long enough that you will try to make the rules change to fit your way so you can say you are winning, changing houses, bugs, plague to fit what you want. If you can't seem to beat us without setting your own rules in a way that you have the upper hand, then we've already won.
Re: TAF- Relearning the lessons of history..
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:37 am
by Mathlord
Yawn. He means you were determined to break TAF NAPs and treaties with other alliances and start wars on those fronts.
If you want to talk about how our war started, we have a war thread for that and the story doesn't start with RahL getting massed
So let's break this down though. Huxley had a few opportunities to start mischief, he could even have given you guys over in Omega land the blood realm war/war settings you keep begging for. So why didn't he? You say you could have asked him to boot all of our members for sport, but you didn't. So why didn't you? I know why, TAF knows why, but I think it's time you said why

Re: TAF- Relearning the lessons of history..
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:49 am
by Nikola Tesla
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:BMMJ13 wrote:There was never a 2 week waiting period and we always require a vote, but nice try on saying a few members told you, perhaps strike force wasn't a good person to ask? As for the 2ic, that would be called a test, or did you think we would do such a thing without 1ic offline waiting to see if something happened? As it turned out, Omegas greed lead them to keep it a secret, which I found interesting and telling of Omega itself, because Omega didn't want to actually use Huxley to mass us easier, you just didn't want to mass us at all, hence why you to tried to break NAPs and heavily farm to try to start a war. Only problem is, we knew the whole time and kept relations in check and actually ended up stronger allies with everyone you tried to mess with. I wonder how all those alliances feel now, after you tried to use them to do what you could not?
Even if 1IC was online, once someone in IC moves the alliance, you can't move back and regain benefits easily, so your argument doesn't cut it. As for NAPs we had none with u. It was a TAF member who massed Rahl and someone else first, so don't talk crap.
As for Omega needing other alliances, lmao!!! You lot can't even declare war without preparing to run into ppt. Prove me wrong and order every TAF member off ppt and I will order the same. We both declare war and we'll see who comes out on top. Surely 100 members can take on a handful!
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90% of OE have war setting from me, they don't seem to care to use it so....
I really think you guys should disband, would save at least some memories of your alliance.
Re: TAF- Relearning the lessons of history..
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:02 pm
by Huxley
Mathlord wrote:Yawn. He means you were determined to break TAF NAPs and treaties with other alliances and start wars on those fronts.
If you want to talk about how our war started, we have a war thread for that and the story doesn't start with RahL getting massed
So let's break this down though. Huxley had a few opportunities to start mischief, he could even have given you guys over in Omega land the blood realm war/war settings you keep begging for. So why didn't he? You say you could have asked him to boot all of our members for sport, but you didn't. So why didn't you? I know why, TAF knows why, but I think it's time you said why

I've just skim read the other posts and saw my name mentioned but havn't read them fully yet but let me answer your question first.
I wanted in on the blood realm (war/war settings) so I didn't declare it as I wouldn't of been able to mass TAF, while being in TAF.
You know why we didn't boot your entire alliance? Oh really mr "know it all" lmao; care to enlighten us then why we didn't then? Why should we spill the beans?