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It just seems daft..... you can't moan about ascended bonus when you have the option to ascend.... if you don't want to ascend then you don't get a bonus! don't moan.... it's your choice to not have a bonus.
It's there if you want it.

Like everyone else who wanted a bonus did... they ascended.

It just seems soooo silly and a waste of admins time making a bonus for people that are too scared to have there account reset when they ascend.

It is a loss in the short term but in the long term it is a bonus.

Its another circle topic isn't it LoL...... nothing like a good debate about the same thing over and over though.... it seems the same base of people are just "bumping" there point of view and we are getting nowhere! LoL

Unknown wrote:It just seems daft..... you can't moan about ascended bonus when you have the option to ascend.... if you don't want to ascend then you don't get a bonus! don't moan.... it's your choice to not have a bonus.
It's there if you want it.

Like everyone else who wanted a bonus did... they ascended.

It just seems soooo silly and a waste of admins time making a bonus for people that are too scared to have there account reset when they ascend.

It is a loss in the short term but in the long term it is a bonus.

Its another circle topic isn't it LoL...... nothing like a good debate about the same thing over and over though.... it seems the same base of people are just "bumping" there point of view and we are getting nowhere! LoL

BRAVO!!!!!

[™§£KHM£†] wrote:

Unknown wrote:It just seems daft..... you can't moan about ascended bonus when you have the option to ascend.... if you don't want to ascend then you don't get a bonus! don't moan.... it's your choice to not have a bonus.
It's there if you want it.

Like everyone else who wanted a bonus did... they ascended.

It just seems soooo silly and a waste of admins time making a bonus for people that are too scared to have there account reset when they ascend.

It is a loss in the short term but in the long term it is a bonus.

Its another circle topic isn't it LoL...... nothing like a good debate about the same thing over and over though.... it seems the same base of people are just "bumping" there point of view and we are getting nowhere! LoL

BRAVO!!!!!

lOl man needs to like u both


Neznani it ain't moaning about ascended bonus
i don't want to ascend i don't want ascended bonuses

i simply want something that will make main server more interesting for those that don't wont to ascend!

simple as that i know that some of u guys did hard work for few ascensions, i'm not denying that really, don't get me wrong that why u have so much benefits after, they are earned, but giving others option to chosee wich way they will continue, isn't moaning.

let's be realistic 50% will never ascend 25% would like to do that, 15% allready did that and 10% is on it way to make decision.

u must understand that only main server will have bigest popularity just because it wont be reseted

I see your point..... but the percentage that CAN ascend ascend except the odd few (cough) and they get the G & R that would give you this bonus you ask for.... so it would only aid a few players that chose not to ascend. It wouldn't help many people at all. Only a handful.

I like you Bahamut because you see this is a discussion and you don't take it personally. A thing many people tend to not differentiate.
(i know that last coment may sound a bit gay but it was meant as a complement to his posting skills)



*note to self..... don't dig yourself a hole!.......... Doh, did i say hole Bah
i better put it all behind me! doh... i mean arrghhhhhh
LoL

Unknown wrote:I see your point..... but the percentage that CAN ascend ascend except the odd few (cough) and they get the G & R that would give you this bonus you ask for.... so it would only aid a few players that chose not to ascend. It wouldn't help many people at all. Only a handful.

I like you Bahamut because you see this is a discussion and you don't take it personally. A thing many people tend to not differentiate.
(i know that last coment may sound a bit gay but it was meant as a complement)

don't go softy now lol

but i must tell this aint about geting ascended bonuses, because we are speaking about +5% for spending one amount of G&R points not calculated total +20% per ascending and without ascended blessing (we all know what it does lol (<---helping mods ))

*takes all personal and goes to mass Unknown LMAO

I still don't see why people who don't want to ascend should get a bonus.

And if it's implemented, it should be a very high cost for a very small gain (something like 200,000 GR points for a 1% bonus to something, and you can only get it once per defence, covert and strike stats) as well as costing alot of naq.

They already have their races bonuses.

They don't have to spend over 30 billion (or more), sacrifice tonnes of UU, have to completely reset their account every time to get another 5% bonus.

They don't have to deal with the boredom of playing the ascension server.

They don't have to sit and click UP for hours to get their UP level back after ascending.

MackTheKnife wrote:I still don't see why people who don't want to ascend should get a bonus.

And if it's implemented, it should be a very high cost for a very small gain (something like 200,000 GR points for a 1% bonus to something, and you can only get it once per defence, covert and strike stats) as well as costing alot of naq.

They already have their races bonuses.

They don't have to spend over 30 billion (or more), sacrifice tonnes of UU, have to completely reset their account every time to get another 5% bonus.

They don't have to deal with the boredom of playing the ascension server.

They don't have to sit and click UP for hours to get their UP level back after ascending.

first of all go and hit wall

200k G&R points ? lOl are u stoned?

2nd u have multiplier now for upgrading UP so your comment is kinda history

Bahamut wrote:

MackTheKnife wrote:I still don't see why people who don't want to ascend should get a bonus.

And if it's implemented, it should be a very high cost for a very small gain (something like 200,000 GR points for a 1% bonus to something, and you can only get it once per defence, covert and strike stats) as well as costing alot of naq.

They already have their races bonuses.

They don't have to spend over 30 billion (or more), sacrifice tonnes of UU, have to completely reset their account every time to get another 5% bonus.

They don't have to deal with the boredom of playing the ascension server.

They don't have to sit and click UP for hours to get their UP level back after ascending.

first of all go and hit wall

200k G&R points ? lOl are u stoned?

2nd u have multiplier now for upgrading UP so your comment is kinda history

200k.

Why?

Because GR points are for ascension. Not for boosting people who have'nt ascended.

Yeah, it's probably too high (I just realised even at 5 points per turn, it would take about 800 days to get that much).

Still the point remains, non-ascended people have chosen to NOT ascend. They choose to continue playing their existing account, getting them stronger, because they can put all their naq into increasing their abilities.

MackTheKnife wrote:200k.

Why?

Because GR points are for ascension. Not for boosting people who have'nt ascended.

Yeah, it's probably too high (I just realised even at 5 points per turn, it would take about 800 days to get that much).

Still the point remains, non-ascended people have chosen to NOT ascend. They choose to continue playing their existing account, getting them stronger, because they can put all their naq into increasing their abilities.

WHO SAID THEY ARE FOR ASCENSION ONLY?

thats what they was made for ... if you dont ascend then you shouldn NOT get any bonus ... the 5% (or more depending on how many times you have ascended) bonus costs us ascended players alot ... not only do we have to get a high enought rank to get the G&R but we then have to pay large amounts of UU, TU, and Naq to ascend then we have our accounts reset and have to start again, buying out UP, MS, Attack, Defence and spy levels all over again, which costs billions of naq ... if you dont want to ascend then dont, but you should NOT get any bonus for the G&R

you DONT have the play on the ascended server ... just ignore your ascention account or put it in vacation mode ... thats what i do

well that is why we are speking of this to force those that don't wont to ascend to start gathering G&R points

so if they don't wont to ascend they get the ability to customize main account

this is why we are speaking of this simply to force ppl that don't wont to ascend to start gaining ranks, that way your ascending would be even more harder there would be more ppl gaining ranks


and i think 5% per level is fair for not loosing stuff

almost all that will be ascending first time know what are requirements for first ascension and their ascension is cheap because they know they need up 1000 by day they will need to spend naq on weapons but they can sell them before ascending also they can untrain spy etc

so stop talking about how expensive it is!

IT IS CHEAP!

Donno if been sed cos couldnt be botherd to read...

Why should u get bonuses cos u dont wanna ascend??If u got that then whats the point in ascending

I think you get enough bonuses for not ascending... some of you guys have a UP of over 20k a day because you chose not to ascend.... that is a big head start over alot of people. Not to forget the 25% bonus you get form whatever race you are

Encore wrote:Donno if been sed cos couldnt be botherd to read...

Why should u get bonuses cos u dont wanna ascend??If u got that then whats the point in ascending

don't ask then, read first then ask, u have answers on that somewhere forme page 1 - 14 enjoy

Unknown wrote:I think you get enough bonuses for not ascending... some of you guys have a UP of over 20k a day because you chose not to ascend.... that is a big head start over alot of people. Not to forget the 25% bonus you get form whatever race you are

as for some having 20K UP LOL what bonus is that u are saying like someone was given 20K up lOl

where can i apply for that (i would like 20K up)

Unknow this was your lowest post ever, u will point that some guys who invested som 250 bilion naq in unit production have bonus, i mean seriously, do u think that will pass as fact?

Im just saying.... people who have chosen not to ascend have had time to soend high on there UP without consequence of having to worry about loosing it when they ascend..... that is a massive bonus in itself for you guys.
You want the best of both worlds and that isnt quite as fair.

That is a fact.

And how much naq have the poeple who have ascended used to get where they are. we use up ALOT of resources to earn our bonuses.
Bah LoL... i'm sick of this silly arguement - it wont happen anyway.

Gets hat out knowing full well he wont be eating it very soon at all!

(forum smirks and thinks of the fun he could have!) lol