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Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:18 am
by Rudy Peña
HellSinG wrote:dear roket, first you pm me to post here as i was related to fenrir as he scammed me for 100 tril now u havent replied to my pms after i posted here... I had to find out that you returned naq to VK through forums, but when will you repay me ? You said you will, and now I dont understand you, did you want more replies here and a bigger audiance? Is that the reason you pmed me... I had you for a guy who backs up what he says, but i guess i was wrong. Im looking forward to your prompt reply
for mods: this topic is far from closed !
You broke the contract between the 2 of you by making a thread saying he scammed you by selling his account.
He has no right to let you know that he sold or will sell.
Now go away.
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Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:23 am
by RoKeT
Rudy Pena wrote:HellSinG wrote:dear roket, first you pm me to post here as i was related to fenrir as he scammed me for 100 tril now u havent replied to my pms after i posted here... I had to find out that you returned naq to VK through forums, but when will you repay me ? You said you will, and now I dont understand you, did you want more replies here and a bigger audiance? Is that the reason you pmed me... I had you for a guy who backs up what he says, but i guess i was wrong. Im looking forward to your prompt reply
for mods: this topic is far from closed !
You broke the contract between the 2 of you by making a thread saying he scammed you by selling his account.
He has no right to let you know that he sold or will sell.
Now go away.
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I wish you'd take your own advice
Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:24 am
by xXxsephirothxXx
Rudy Pena wrote:HellSinG wrote:dear roket, first you pm me to post here as i was related to fenrir as he scammed me for 100 tril now u havent replied to my pms after i posted here... I had to find out that you returned naq to VK through forums, but when will you repay me ? You said you will, and now I dont understand you, did you want more replies here and a bigger audiance? Is that the reason you pmed me... I had you for a guy who backs up what he says, but i guess i was wrong. Im looking forward to your prompt reply
for mods: this topic is far from closed !
You broke the contract between the 2 of you by making a thread saying he scammed you by selling his account.
He has no right to let you know that he sold or will sell.
Now go away.
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Lol what contract? wake up to yourself mate.. Was the agreement that both parties agreed to when Hellsing lent the naq "oh if i lend you 100T, you can keep it all if I by chance accuse you of scaming!!"
Try that one in real life see how far you get
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Furthermore, imagine if you used that weak excuse to not repay your debt in court...
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Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:26 am
by Rudy Peña
xXxsephirothxXx wrote:Rudy Pena wrote:HellSinG wrote:dear roket, first you pm me to post here as i was related to fenrir as he scammed me for 100 tril now u havent replied to my pms after i posted here... I had to find out that you returned naq to VK through forums, but when will you repay me ? You said you will, and now I dont understand you, did you want more replies here and a bigger audiance? Is that the reason you pmed me... I had you for a guy who backs up what he says, but i guess i was wrong. Im looking forward to your prompt reply
for mods: this topic is far from closed !
You broke the contract between the 2 of you by making a thread saying he scammed you by selling his account.
He has no right to let you know that he sold or will sell.
Now go away.
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Lol what contract? wake up to yourself mate.. Was the agreement that both parties agreed to when Hellsing lent the naq "oh if i lend you 100T, you can keep it all if I by chance accuse you of scaming!!"
Try that one in real life see how far you get
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Yes a contract saying that he had 1 month to pay it back.
But hell broke it by making the thread before the time limit is up.
Try doing that in rl and see how far you get, noob.
@ scammer roketAnd what would that be you scum bag player?
Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:28 am
by xXxsephirothxXx
Bahahaha poor rudy, living a delusional life... What does making a thread about someone have anything to do with having to repay an amount after 1 month? wake up kid
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Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:29 am
by Rudy Peña
xXxsephirothxXx wrote:Bahahaha poor rudy, living a delusional life... What does making a thread about someone have anything to do with having to repay an amount after 1 month? wake up kid
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You wake up boy!
Subject: Fenrir~ SCAMMERCersei Lannister wrote:Hellsing, you arrange loans for a month, right? You first posted about your loans March 5th.
Seeing as it is now March 16th, how could Fenrir have defaulted on you already?

Did you loan to him earlier? Or am I missing something? Logic would say that if he got his loan on the 5th, he would have until the 5th of April to repay his debt.. which is quite a few days from now.

I must be blind, but I do not see any scamming, here.

So, where is your proof of this alleged 'scam'?
Right now, it might as well be the opposite.

(i.e. you scamming him through this thread and public outrage)
Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:32 am
by xXxsephirothxXx
Rudy Pena wrote:xXxsephirothxXx wrote:Bahahaha poor rudy, living a delusional life... What does making a thread about someone have anything to do with having to repay an amount after 1 month? wake up kid
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You wake up boy!
Subject: Fenrir~ SCAMMERCersei Lannister wrote:Hellsing, you arrange loans for a month, right? You first posted about your loans March 5th.
Seeing as it is now March 16th, how could Fenrir have defaulted on you already?

Did you loan to him earlier? Or am I missing something? Logic would say that if he got his loan on the 5th, he would have until the 5th of April to repay his debt.. which is quite a few days from now.

I must be blind, but I do not see any scamming, here.

So, where is your proof of this alleged 'scam'?
Right now, it might as well be the opposite.

(i.e. you scamming him through this thread and public outrage)
Point's proven in the above...
1. At accused time, evidently fenrir had not scammed him and a misinterpretation was made...
So... how do we conclude nothing is owed now?.... Just because you don't like it doesnt mean you don't still owe it

Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:35 am
by Rudy Peña
xXxsephirothxXx wrote:Rudy Pena wrote:xXxsephirothxXx wrote:Bahahaha poor rudy, living a delusional life... What does making a thread about someone have anything to do with having to repay an amount after 1 month? wake up kid
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You wake up boy!
Subject: Fenrir~ SCAMMERCersei Lannister wrote:Hellsing, you arrange loans for a month, right? You first posted about your loans March 5th.
Seeing as it is now March 16th, how could Fenrir have defaulted on you already?

Did you loan to him earlier? Or am I missing something? Logic would say that if he got his loan on the 5th, he would have until the 5th of April to repay his debt.. which is quite a few days from now.

I must be blind, but I do not see any scamming, here.

So, where is your proof of this alleged 'scam'?
Right now, it might as well be the opposite.

(i.e. you scamming him through this thread and public outrage)
Point's proven in the above...
1. At accused time, evidently fenrir had not scammed him and a misinterpretation was made...
So... how do we conclude nothing is owed now?.... Just because you don't like it doesnt mean you don't still owe it

Hell said people had 1 month to pay the naq back. If they didnt, he would make a thread calling them a scammer.
That was the deal in. Now Hell posted way before, which means he was breaking his own deal. Which again means that Fen was no longer to obey the original deal as Hell broke it first.
Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:39 am
by Rudy Peña
Subject: Loaning naq with %HellSinG wrote:I loan you 100 tril/or more, you give me back 120/more in exactly 1 month

thats 20% feed, like the government has in real world xD
I think its all legit, if you do not return, you're marked as scamer and well
we all know what happens to scammers
All the trades and stuff will be posted here publicly!
Post if anyone interested,
~H~
This was the thread made by Hell. As you can see, he says exactly 1 month. Then he will post, though since he did it 10 days later.....20 days short of the deal/contract. Fen had to right to repay him back as Hell was breaking the deal first.
Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:44 am
by [] SSELTIMIL []
RoKeT wrote:I scammed him

ohhh no there goes my spotless rep
if you have been scammed post here, you have 2 weeks at which time I will sell account for what I can, give you your resources you lost, and give the rest (if any to Fenrir) I want nothing from this
Good day all!!!
The bottom line is - If you have been scammed then you have misplaced your trust or been misled...So the only person you should blame is yourself. Good thing is - you will be more careful next time;)
The war goes beyond the game...You take a chance means exactly that!..Who dares doesn't always win trust me on that one;)
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Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:44 am
by xXxsephirothxXx
Rudy Pena wrote:Subject: Loaning naq with %HellSinG wrote:I loan you 100 tril/or more, you give me back 120/more in exactly 1 month

thats 20% feed, like the government has in real world xD
I think its all legit, if you do not return, you're marked as scamer and well
we all know what happens to scammers
All the trades and stuff will be posted here publicly!
Post if anyone interested,
~H~
This was the thread made by Hell. As you can see, he says exactly 1 month. Then he will post, though since he did it 10 days later.....20 days short of the deal/contract. Fen had to right to repay him back as Hell was breaking the deal first.
Ummm no... He says if you don't pay it back you will be marked as a scammer...? With the evidence against Fenrir, is there no just reason to conclude that he was not going to pay it back?
Never was it mentioned that IF he didn't pay back
in a month he would be labeled a scammer... nor was it mentioned that he would do it via a thread...? Read between the lines...
He said specifically,
if you DONT pay it back....
Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:47 am
by Rudy Peña
xXxsephirothxXx wrote:Rudy Pena wrote:Subject: Loaning naq with %HellSinG wrote:I loan you 100 tril/or more,
you give me back 120/more in exactly 1 month 
thats 20% feed, like the government has in real world xD
I think its all legit,
if you do not return, you're marked as scamer and well
we all know what happens to scammers
All the trades and stuff will be posted here publicly!
Post if anyone interested,
~H~
This was the thread made by Hell. As you can see, he says exactly 1 month. Then he will post, though since he did it 10 days later.....20 days short of the deal/contract. Fen had to right to repay him back as Hell was breaking the deal first.
Ummm no... He says if you don't pay it back you will be marked as a scammer...? With the evidence against Fenrir, is there no just reason to conclude that he was not going to pay it back?
Never was it mentioned that IF he didn't pay back
in a month he would be labeled a scammer... nor was it mentioned that he would do it via a thread...? Read between the lines...
He said specifically,
if you DONT pay it back....
And read the bolded and underlined i just made.
Hell did say people would be called a scammer if people didnt pay in 1 month. Marked and called is the same thing.
Read carefully. I know its hard for you. But maybe you should get that text to speech thingy on your laptop to help you out.

Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:50 am
by xXxsephirothxXx
Rudy Pena wrote:xXxsephirothxXx wrote:Rudy Pena wrote:Subject: Loaning naq with %HellSinG wrote:I loan you 100 tril/or more,
you give me back 120/more in exactly 1 month 
thats 20% feed, like the government has in real world xD
I think its all legit,
if you do not return, you're marked as scamer and well
we all know what happens to scammers
All the trades and stuff will be posted here publicly!
Post if anyone interested,
~H~
This was the thread made by Hell. As you can see, he says exactly 1 month. Then he will post, though since he did it 10 days later.....20 days short of the deal/contract. Fen had to right to repay him back as Hell was breaking the deal first.
Ummm no... He says if you don't pay it back you will be marked as a scammer...? With the evidence against Fenrir, is there no just reason to conclude that he was not going to pay it back?
Never was it mentioned that IF he didn't pay back
in a month he would be labeled a scammer... nor was it mentioned that he would do it via a thread...? Read between the lines...
He said specifically,
if you DONT pay it back....
And read the bolded and underlined i just made.
Hell did say people would be called a scammer if people didnt pay in 1 month. Marked and called is the same thing.
Read carefully. I know its hard for you. But maybe you should get that text to speech thingy on your laptop to help you out.

Try using that logic in a legal document... maybe that's why apple lost against microsoft in the legal battle all that time ago
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To revise:
hellsing mentions you have one month to pay back, but in another paragraph mentions that he will label a person who doesn't pay naq back a scammer... With Fenrir's account gone with no mention of payback with further information of his intention's to "scam as much as possible as he was not coming back" and being found to have scammed multiple people as well... don't see what part of the doted line we are missing...
Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:54 am
by Rudy Peña
xXxsephirothxXx wrote:Rudy Pena wrote:xXxsephirothxXx wrote:Rudy Pena wrote:Subject: Loaning naq with %HellSinG wrote:I loan you 100 tril/or more,
you give me back 120/more in exactly 1 month 
thats 20% feed, like the government has in real world xD
I think its all legit,
if you do not return, you're marked as scamer and well
we all know what happens to scammers
All the trades and stuff will be posted here publicly!
Post if anyone interested,
~H~
This was the thread made by Hell. As you can see, he says exactly 1 month. Then he will post, though since he did it 10 days later.....20 days short of the deal/contract. Fen had to right to repay him back as Hell was breaking the deal first.
Ummm no... He says if you don't pay it back you will be marked as a scammer...? With the evidence against Fenrir, is there no just reason to conclude that he was not going to pay it back?
Never was it mentioned that IF he didn't pay back
in a month he would be labeled a scammer... nor was it mentioned that he would do it via a thread...? Read between the lines...
He said specifically,
if you DONT pay it back....
And read the bolded and underlined i just made.
Hell did say people would be called a scammer if people didnt pay in 1 month. Marked and called is the same thing.
Read carefully. I know its hard for you. But maybe you should get that text to speech thingy on your laptop to help you out.

Try using that logic in a legal document... maybe that's why apple lost against microsoft in the legal battle all that time ago
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AT&T uses a similar logic.

You get a contract with them, but if you break it you have to pay more.
But in this case, Hell broke it. which means Fen doesnt have to pay
I would love to see someone break there contract with AT&T and win the fight of not paying the fine for breaking the contract, but have At&T paying it.

Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:56 am
by xXxsephirothxXx
Rudy Pena wrote:xXxsephirothxXx wrote:Rudy Pena wrote:xXxsephirothxXx wrote:Rudy Pena wrote:Subject: Loaning naq with %HellSinG wrote:I loan you 100 tril/or more,
you give me back 120/more in exactly 1 month 
thats 20% feed, like the government has in real world xD
I think its all legit,
if you do not return, you're marked as scamer and well
we all know what happens to scammers
All the trades and stuff will be posted here publicly!
Post if anyone interested,
~H~
This was the thread made by Hell. As you can see, he says exactly 1 month. Then he will post, though since he did it 10 days later.....20 days short of the deal/contract. Fen had to right to repay him back as Hell was breaking the deal first.
Ummm no... He says if you don't pay it back you will be marked as a scammer...? With the evidence against Fenrir, is there no just reason to conclude that he was not going to pay it back?
Never was it mentioned that IF he didn't pay back
in a month he would be labeled a scammer... nor was it mentioned that he would do it via a thread...? Read between the lines...
He said specifically,
if you DONT pay it back....
And read the bolded and underlined i just made.
Hell did say people would be called a scammer if people didnt pay in 1 month. Marked and called is the same thing.
Read carefully. I know its hard for you. But maybe you should get that text to speech thingy on your laptop to help you out.

Try using that logic in a legal document... maybe that's why apple lost against microsoft in the legal battle all that time ago
![[043.gif] :smt043](./images/smilies/043.gif)
AT&T uses a similar logic.

You get a contract with them, but if you break it you have to pay more.
But in this case, Hell broke it. which means Fen doesnt have to pay
I would love to see someone break there contract with AT&T and win the fight of not paying the fine for breaking the contract, but have At&T paying it.

AT&T "contract" obviously protects from a NUMEROUS amount of loop holes... they don't use a fourm post to keep their rights upheld

nice comparison...
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