Teal'auc of the Tok'ra wrote:I’m going to ignore all that I do know from several views over a protracted period of time as well as any circumstantial or coincidental events and (re)actions that I have born witness to or explored in depth in my own time and go through this in a logical way.
That is, the thinking process for those who were not involved and who have a clear mind on forums with no true in-depth knowledge of the event who are adding their input and the reasons for it. The most basic and obvious reasons for a mod discharge would be:
- Method & attitude i.e. pride/aggressive etc
- Past Mistakes/Impaired Judgement
- Restructure/Forum Reorganisation
- Impulsive rather than methodical
- Experience or lack thereof
- Private/Personal not Professional
- Teamwork/Communication issues
Rather than explain terms and argue semantics, people will tend to prefer to equate attributes with past events/history or through comparisons and to the extent of which they can apply it (i.e. number of others it can also apply to). Should it leave only the given two mods affected by the above then their guilt and discharge would be fully justified but should it affect several other mods or not apply to the given mods, people will ask questions and begin to suspect ulterior motives (as others involved believe).
Going through the list now in the very most basic way (It would be easy to create a full multi-paragraph argument backed up by several incidents or events for each point so I’ll abstract them to their most basic form both to simplify this response):
- If the reason is being too assertive, proud and direct (i.e. lacking tact), then Jack is by far more guilty of that then Teal'Auc and can be seen in every issue he dealt with as an ombudsman and also in the current thread other users have noted and questioned his aggressive stances from a position meant to conjure respect and reason.
- If the reason is past mistakes or impaired judgement that can be applied to Dadigi Aurial and several other mods as soon as you scratch the surface and if you go by a popular vote, you'll find the general consensus on forums is that Teal'Auc was the most trusted and impartial (tied with wolf359) and proof given with her modding most server wide events or times of crisis/lack of faith in the admin (ETL/Pookie/Current until discharge).
- If the reason is restructure, then the inactive mods and those who no longer meet the time requirements to perform their duties should have been sent their two weeks’ notice rather than possible the active mods.
- If the reason is too impulsive, then this situation along with say Buck quitting & returning x times, the amount of spam threads and pranks of varying degrees by several other mods without though would surely equal or outweigh this several fold.
-If the reason is experience, surely the two revoked had endured nearly every event and pressure on forums to date and still had the flare to mod and the right ideology behind it.
That essentially leaves the options of private/personal not professional reasons or an inability to work together efficiently in which case the mods have all noted the distance of the admin team and which the public are now aware of and so a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
As such explaining the real reasoning behind your decision and the underlying issues that led to casting your hand is the only way you’ll vindicate yourself or salvage this situation. To distance or curb/extinguish the current debates would only vindicate those who are bringing forth the criticism and to post more half truths would add this event to the current string which will return and be brought forwards every other time an issue arises as yet another skeleton in the closet, each time having a snowball event and having more weight behind it.
So I would implore you to present the real reasons rather than the current smoke and mirrors and that damning as it may well be, the lasting and reoccurring damage by not doing so will easily outweigh the temporary discomfort or embarrassment.
The forums deserve better and remember that how you handle this crisis will be a defining moment in your legacy and how most will remember you by as time goes on.
Interesting points there... quoting someone who agreed to allow me to repost this here, as they are too gutted from what is happening on these forums, so they wished to remain off these forums.
Teal'auc
Quite recognizable who wrote it lol, and to be honest, if those rules were applied...there wouldn't be much mods left, some of those being fired being competent and all but still fired for reasons that don't make them bad mods. And people say we haven't enough mods to lock topics that are irrevelant (ie GC when wars are over and topics spammed and provoked).
If those so called choosing perfection into mods, are applied, this forum will be even more of a mess! Not surprised if some "alright" mods would give up as their section would be deserted because mod A would have been fired for this, and mod B for that. And you'll all be happy to notice that people would take advantage there aren't mods anymore and the entire bashing would begin, and this time it wouldn't be able to be saved!
I wouldn't be surprised we even start to get bots registering and posting porn links and scams about links to bank transfers and all.
Instead of always trying to get rid of mods for various more or less reasonable reasons, why not let simply admins decide or supermods when a mod is not efficient? "Village justice" never worked properly as you can accuse anyone, it's a barbarian way to judge, and it solves nothing.
I really wonder why people always want to get rid of mods, and then they realize noone could replace them, because most of choosen ones are the best choices, and if we pick the "rest of list" of best mods not yet mods, I am sure it will be their time a day to cross those "excuses to fire a mod for the heck of it" and be fired their turn, and THEN, we would realize it was stupid to act like this.
There aren't perfect mods. Some hypocrisy there, the so called all perfect and all good mods, I remember them being pointed at and yelled several times as well, so instead of trying to say this person is best one and the other isn't, try to figure out your all perfect mods already AT LEAST ONCE broke the so called "keep the best of them rules". So by this kind of thinking, we should fire them as well right?
Any mod who been modding angry, drunk, used not acceptable words, did too biased choice, modded blindly, having past history, known to not agree with other mods too often on decision and "fighting" on the open for this, should be fired if we want to be right and apply those rules heh?
As I said in beginning, almost noone would be still left on the list!
So rather than trying to do a "productive cleaning" of the mods, better keep those mods as anyway new ones so called competent by xyz would break one of the so called "10 commandments" of modship a day or another because noone is perfect, and there are many interpretations of good modding. Since there are always sides and we can hardly satisfy everyone, so there will be bias, there will be anger, and "10 commandments of modship" would be broken and we would fire ONCE AGAIN.
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