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Re: Talks about TRIBUTES/INDEMITY for leaving the Server war TWO
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:01 am
by ThunderCat
~Unkillable~ - 80251 - 6028 - Renamed to noisy no longer in Pi, joined [ NAALF ]
I was lmao really hard on this one.
He is my brother. He quit and sold his account for RL reasons a few weeks before the war started. That list is pure propaganda, or else they took a list a month before the war started and are now extorting tributes from people who were never in the war to begin with.
Re: Talks about TRIBUTES/INDEMITY for leaving the Server war TWO
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:01 am
by deni
Brdavs wrote:
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Delta 42 down to 30 down 25
Frozen Wolf - 69507 - 2676 - No Longer Delta
golnAr - 40441 - 1788 - No Longer Delta
Mojo Rising - 7840 - 42 - Account Renamed to Lu_Bu, in 'The Dark Assassins'
Smooshable - 27845 - 290 - No Longer in Delta
Jimmy Kay - 18500 - 625 No longer in Delta
Thurinlah - 30900 - 458 No longer in Delta
The Rest No longer in Rankings
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Omega 27 down to 22 down 17
Nobby - 24978 - 431 - No longer in Omega, Joined LoneWolf
D00ML0RD - 1913350 - 4683 Not in Rankings
nomis_17 - 22697 - 190 Runner - No longer in Omega
KGC - 12109 - 359 Runner Left Omega -renamed shedload
The Rest No longer in Rankings
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Alpha 43 down to 18
Acronon - 76431 - 3169 - No Longer in Alpha, Joined Reborn..
Athena - 39613 - 710 - No Longer in Alpha
Devilsdeath - 36710 - 745 No Longer in Alpha, Joined TanKs
Don Lewis - 57273 - 3046 No Longer in Alpha, Joined TanKs
Dude Nick - 30807 - 1027 No Longer in Alpha, Joined n.W.o
Egnver - 70315 - 1895 No Longer in Alpha
Flavar - 36371 - 238 No Longer in Alpha
Grizzly - 68203 - 1969 No Longer in Alpha, Joined M.I.A.
Loki_ - 41528 - 1496 No Longer in Alpha
Magius - 58854 - 1701 No Longer in Alpha
Mazinkaiser - 31963 - ? Runner No Longer in Alpha
Ra - 10085 - 229 No Longer in Alpha, Joined Reborn..
Space2050 - 7582 - 2204 No Longer in Alpha, joined [ Stargate Troopers ]
Spica - 15583 - 5382 No Longer in Alpha
Tallon - 49409 - 755 No Longer in Alpha joined Coopers Pale Ale Planets Removed
TokKo - 11771 - 2079 No Longer in Alpha, Joined TanKs
Vinny D - 27317 - 1812 - No Longer in Alpha, Joined FAHQKD
woodsy1980 - 57608 - 1862 No Longer in Alpha, Joined TanKs
Anubisstargate - 36462 - 1317 - No longer in Alpha
Danielv - 29003 - 447 - No longer alpha - joined No more time
Sovetski - 38797 - 427 - No longer Alpha - Joined Reborn
Thicks - 61923 - 2488 - No longer Alpha
DarkDayz[CM] - 27999 - 891 - No longer Alpha, joined Reborn...
Rusteroo - 36906 - 670 - No longer in Alpha
[DBD]Deadliest Wes - 56762 - 1310 - No longer in Alpha
The Rest No longer in Rankings
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Pi 49 down to 32
~Unkillable~ - 80251 - 6028 - Renamed to noisy no longer in Pi, joined [ NAALF ]
bond007 - 50789 - 1835 No Longer in Pi
Cosmic Terror - 84874 - 3521 Renamed to Huggie Bear, no longer in Pi, joined n.W.o Runner
Demon Eater - 1925451 - ---- No Longer in Pi
Kazrack - 78840 - 3987 - No Longer in Pi
Little Dog - 75674 - 5876 - No Longer in Pi
Lloth - 49072 - 1226 Runner No longer in Pi, joined Horus System Lords
Ratch - 69568 - 2476 Runner No Longer in Pi
SickxXDeathBuggxXx - 1931577 - ---- No Longer in Pi
Silverburn - 82526 - 4115 No longer in Pi, Joined FUALL Mercs
Valder - 1919568 - ---- No Longer in Pi
Vulcanata - 1918389 - 4840 No Longer in Pi
The Rest No longer in Rankings
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Mayhem 38 down to 37
_Blackmagic_ 75116 - 2153 - No longer Mayhem
The Rest No longer in Rankings
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DDE 45 down to 40
Law7441 - 23739 - 922 No longer in DDE
The Rest No longer in Rankings
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DxM 17 down to 14
~shep~ 48970 - 5003 No longer in DxM
GridLock - 97575 - 3748 Lone Wolf No longer in DxM
Redneck_hunter - 70230 - 2571 No longer in DXM joined TREYUN ARMADA {TE}
Stefanos - 21035 - 109 No longer in DxM
The Rest No longer in Rankings
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DoO 23 down to 19
~Death Lord~ - 57365 - 2197 - No longer in Doo joined ~[ GTA ]
Alpha Bravo - 49600 - 2035 - renamed to Counte of Monte Cristo and joined Echelons of Earth
Aton - 40118 - 4578 No longer in DoO
Zodi4c - 12128 - 902 No longer in Doo
The Rest No longer in Rankings
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DoC 37 down to 30
~XxX~ - 48289 - ---- No longer in DoC
~Anima~ - 97299 - 4180 No longer in DoC
~shep~ - 48970 - 5003 No longer in DoC
Ancient Hero - 1911841 - ? No longer in DoC renamed to Milky Way joined [ T I T A N S ]
Death Reaver - 46701 - 1272 No longer in DoC
FORCE COMMANDER - 35816 - 1214 No longer in DoC joined [ Pax Universalis ]
gregry254 - 6073 - 3481 No longer in DoC joined [ Thors Chariot ]
Wahtisaari - 101291 - ---- No longer in DoC
The Rest No longer in Rankings
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FAHQKD 25 down to 21
Esplin9466 - 49311 - 1880 no longer in FAHQ
Pecos - 10481 - 390 no longer in FAHQ joined The Pond
wildcatz - 95037 - 3912 No longer in FAHQ
The Rest No longer in Rankings
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Bicska 6 down to 3
Siriusx 1920507 - Not found No longer in Bicska, joined BékePipa
Tantalos 1915230 - Not found no longer in Bicska, joined BékePipa
Liszensz 1914301 - Not Found no longer in Bicska
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[ FUALL mercs ] 13 down 5
BenjaminMS 54694 - --- No longer in FUALL Mercs
Guardian - 1922413 - 5517 No longer in FUALL Mercs
Richard C Mongler - 1937597 joined [ The Defectors ]
SĹTĹN 666 (AGA) 21276 - 2090 joined Alpha left and then formed RunnerEvil Destroyers
teesdale - 66920 - Traitor
Harakash Crosis 1919036 - joined [ Stargate Marauders ]
The Ancients Pergatory - ---
Delta lost 17 accounts
Omega lost 10 accounts
Alpha lost 37accounts
pi lost 17 accounts
Mayhem lost 01 accounts
// 80 accounts lost
DDE lost 06 accounts
DXM lost 07 accounts
Doo lost 05 accounts
Doc lost 11 accounts
// 29 accounts lost
FAHQ lost 06 accounts
Bicska lost 03 accounts
Mercs lost 07 accounts
// 16 accounts lost
Total Accounts down:
125
what a funny post ... Severian should stick to words, numbers are not his strength LOL
now do us all a favour and remove all the accounts from that list that are on vac mode or switched to a different FUALL alliance or the ones you counted twice and look at the number you get. You sure that the remaining number will be smaller then the number of people who surrendered to FUALL?
I guess not
Re: Talks about TRIBUTES/INDEMITY for leaving the Server war TWO
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:18 am
by 1horseman
Has anybody on that list actually paid anything or even acknowledged surrender?
Re: Talks about TRIBUTES/INDEMITY for leaving the Server war TWO
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:31 am
by Suzuk
All this coming from an alliance that is hardly participating in this war.
Let me know when you guys are going to join the rest of your coalition, or are you still using the 'taking exams' excuse?
Re: Talks about TRIBUTES/INDEMITY for leaving the Server war TWO
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:19 am
by ThunderCat
suzuk wrote:All this coming from an alliance that is hardly participating in this war.
Let me know when you guys are going to join the rest of your coalition, or are you still using the 'taking exams' excuse?
it's funny how exams make them unable to fight, but they can easily compile large lists in their free time like this....
Re: Talks about TRIBUTES/INDEMITY for leaving the Server war TWO
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:29 am
by Acronon
Not getting anything from me, I have never taken a 'tribute' from someone myself and as such I will not pay one.
Plus the fact that I have grown 8 mil in army size since being in the this so called war, lol.
Re: Talks about TRIBUTES/INDEMITY for leaving the Server war TWO
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:46 am
by Brdavs
I really dont get you people...
If youre figthing and active what concern is this of yours? This is a list of people missing from your side... One would have thought some of those are people you would want to chat to too... Heck you`ve issued enough threaths during your time...
But just to adress a couple of reacuring »problems«... people on vacation but still in alliance still show in the alliance rankings members count. And the list we were comparing against was made in the 2nd half of May, this year. War started 3-4 weeks later tops. Go compare for yourself ffs. It`s not perfect, not by a longshot but it is what it is.
Whos brother or mother or grandgrandad sold his accout to his auntie is of little concern to us at this point, his problem and the problem of whoever bought it I guess. Until we get an explanation and strike him off the list that is. Is that so much to ask? I`m guessing no since thundercat expects me to stalk his bro or something.
Any other problems that apparently massivly »distort the picture«?
And whats with all the propaganda crying and insults hurled towards TLE? Still trying to turn us on eachother? Christ... Look ladies, this is a thread that mirrors yourown. The mass of people just requires a more methidical approach wich I am now free to pursue as 90% of my exams are behind me. Ha, how do you like them apples lol...
Seriously if this were propaganda I`d just post that you`re missing 1/3 of your people and are up the creek with no paddle. And stoop to your level by pointing out the widespread inactivity of the pillars of OE, the internal problems, loss of prominent members etc. etc. ... numerous problems for all to see... I havent. Thoe every post I read here tempts me grately tbh. You want propaganda I can serve you stuff that will make your eyes teer up lol.
But if you think its all propaganda then why in gods name do you keep bumping it with your fits and poorly attempted missdirections? You only give it attention you claim id does not deserve. Leave it to sink to the 2nd page only to be occasionally bumped by a guy taking leave... sorta what is happening with your thread.
Unbelievable...
@acronon: never taken tribute have you lolz? You were one of the bright minds that came up with the idea back in the day. Or atleast you rubbed elbows with them.
But heck, I prefer to think of it as a security deposit. And tbh with your track record theres plenty of people over here insisting the opportunity not be presented to you - since you flipped sides and feigned stuff to further certain interests so many times in the past... so dont you worry, your "moral fiber" will not be tested in this case lol.
Re: Talks about TRIBUTES/INDEMITY for leaving the Server war TWO
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:53 am
by 1horseman
Brdavs wrote:And the list we were comparing against was made in the 2nd half of May, this year. War started 3-4 weeks later tops.
Compiled a list 3-4 weeks before the war started, hmm what a coincidence.
Re: Talks about TRIBUTES/INDEMITY for leaving the Server war TWO
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:58 am
by Mordack
Nobby left Omega before this war began, and therefore shouldn't be listed as a 'runner', or counted among the accounts which have left FUALL during the war.
Re: Talks about TRIBUTES/INDEMITY for leaving the Server war TWO
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:59 am
by Acronon
Brdavs wrote:@acronon: never taken tribute have you lolz? You were one of the bright minds that came up with the idea back in the day. Or atleast you rubbed elbows with them.
But heck, I prefer to think of it as a security deposit. And tbh with your track record theres plenty of people over here insisting the opportunity not be presented to you - since you flipped sides and feigned stuff to further certain interests so many times in the past... so dont you worry, your "moral fiber" will not be tested in this case lol.
Whatever mate, you know me not.
So, because I knew ETL and others back when they started taking these things I should pay them?
Not likely, lol.
You can say whatever you want mate, it doesn't change the fact that your 'empire' is full of rejects from other alliances that now (finally) have decent accounts and they want to try and claim some glory from the shadows of others that they have hidden in for ages.
This 'war' is fine by me, I am growing alot and losing almost nothing at all, no big deal to me, I can keep this up for months and months mate, I work from home, lol.
Let me know when you get tired of feeding my account and I might think of leaving your 'empire' (what a joke) alone, but I highly doubt it, lol.
Re: Talks about TRIBUTES/INDEMITY for leaving the Server war TWO
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:10 am
by Brdavs
1horseman wrote:Brdavs wrote:And the list we were comparing against was made in the 2nd half of May, this year. War started 3-4 weeks later tops.
Compiled a list 3-4 weeks before the war started, hmm what a coincidence.
Oh you`ve got to be kidding me, with all said done and established by now lol. When were your lists made? Decisoions thaken to pursue this war? Alliance wide programs started? 2-3 moths before heh? so please spare me the sanctimonious "hmm interesting coincindance" lol...
Mordack wrote:Nobby left Omega before this war began, and therefore shouldn't be listed as a 'runner', or counted among the accounts which have left FUALL during the war.
This is a list of those that left immediatly before the war and after the commencment. Who did what matters how again? He is gone, bottom line.
Acronon wrote:Brdavs wrote:@acronon: never taken tribute have you lolz? You were one of the bright minds that came up with the idea back in the day. Or atleast you rubbed elbows with them.
But heck, I prefer to think of it as a security deposit. And tbh with your track record theres plenty of people over here insisting the opportunity not be presented to you - since you flipped sides and feigned stuff to further certain interests so many times in the past... so dont you worry, your "moral fiber" will not be tested in this case lol.
Whatever mate, you know me not.
So, because I knew ETL and others back when they started taking these things I should pay them?
Not likely, lol.
You can say whatever you want mate, it doesn't change the fact that your 'empire' is full of rejects from other alliances that now (finally) have decent accounts and they want to try and claim some glory from the shadows of others that they have hidden in for ages.
This 'war' is fine by me, I am growing alot and losing almost nothing at all, no big deal to me, I can keep this up for months and months mate, I work from home, lol.
Let me know when you get tired of feeding my account and I might think of leaving your 'empire' (what a joke) alone, but I highly doubt it, lol.
I know enough not to trust you as far as I can throw you. You and people like you are THE reason for this approach so let me just counter with a "whatever" of myown mkay.
Glad you`re growing. Not doing so bad myself, my UP has nearly doubled on account of just 2 (ex)FUALL planets so I`m not doing too shabby myself either. Just so you and borek don`t think youre something "special" cos you avoid negative growth lol...
And yes, pile on the insults lad. Best indicator of weakness of ones "argument". What, no "cheaters!" this time? Awwww.
Re: Talks about TRIBUTES/INDEMITY for leaving the Server war TWO
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:13 am
by Acronon
You can say what you want mate, it doesn't change the fact that most of your core leaders are Omega rejects that I myself removed and the other are ones that couldn't get into the alliance in the first place.
Yeah, I have history, never denied that, I am partly responsible for the state of things in game as I worked to help create the first couple of empires in the game, not saying that I was right for doing so but I am saying that now their time has passed.
Re: Talks about TRIBUTES/INDEMITY for leaving the Server war TWO
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:18 am
by Mordack
Brdavs wrote:Mordack wrote:Nobby left Omega before this war began, and therefore shouldn't be listed as a 'runner', or counted among the accounts which have left FUALL during the war.
This is a list of those that left immediatly before the war and after the commencment. Who did what matters how again? He is gone, bottom line.
It matters because the way in which you are listing those names suggests that they left FUALL as a result of the war, and that their departure is some kind of victory for TJP.
Nobby left Omega on the 9th of May. If I'm not mistaken, this war started on the 28th of May. So that's a 19 day difference. I'm not sure how you've concluded that he "immediatly before the war."
Also, Nobby left Omega so he didn't have as many ties to the game and could afford to spend more time with his children. Not because of the war. I wonder how many of the other 125 names you're so proudly touting around left for similar, unrelated reasons.
Re: Talks about TRIBUTES/INDEMITY for leaving the Server war TWO
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:32 am
by ThunderCat
Brdavs wrote: I`m guessing no since thundercat expects me to stalk his bro or something.
lol. the point is that you made a list 3 weeks before the war sarted, and therefore the information is unreliable. Are you also demanding tribute from the people on this list? Is the person that the account was sold to being extorted naq or uu because the account was in Pi 3-4 weeks before the war started. Maybe you should have made an up to date list when the war started instead of acting like all these people had surrendered to you when they left before the war even got going.
Anyway I figure I will speak a bit for my alliance and address this:
~Unkillable~ - 80251 - 6028 - Renamed to noisy no longer in Pi, joined [ NAALF ]Quit alliance before war started. Account sold.
Cosmic Terror - 84874 - 3521 Renamed to Huggie Bear, no longer in Pi, joined n.W.o Runner Booted for attacking delta member before the war began.
Demon Eater - 1925451 - ---- No Longer in Pi Booted for posting Omegan planet locations on forum. Is still in the war.
Lloth - 49072 - 1226 Runner No longer in Pi, joined Horus System Lords Left because of personal issues with higher up members of FUALL.
Silverburn - 82526 - 4115 No longer in Pi, Joined FUALL Mercs Left Pi to lead the FUALL merc alliance but is still an unofficial member.
the bolded parts are the reasons that each member left Pi. These Pi members did not leave because of the war.
Re: Talks about TRIBUTES/INDEMITY for leaving the Server war TWO
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:36 am
by Brdavs
Mordack I`ve said this before, I`m not a FUALL scribe. I dont know, and at this point I DONT CARE why some1 left what was his reasoning and motives.
There is a timeframe. Starts X before the conflict when its comming was 99% certain, known and people started to drop tags, for whatever reason.
Now some left for XYZ reasons but some alliances employ well worked out tactics of having people drop tags for various benefits. Every1 dropping thags in siad timeframe is therefore presumed to do so with dishonest intentions for a very PRACTICAL REASON OF NOT GETTING SHAFTED AGAIN.
It`s easy enough getting off the list for one that so desires or has a valid resons why not to be on. Howmany times must I repeat that its a rudementary list (I have so I have somewher to point when complaints start poiring in as to why ppl are not being left alone), subject to change and that not everything is 100% correct cos I cannot be arsed to run behind every1 & his dog. I take a list of members then and I compare it to the list today. Whats the brainsurgery with that? If its a problem take it up with peoples memories and alliance ranking pages displaying member counts being "unfair".
Just think of at as the burden of proof lying on your side. Have noobert come to blue, theyll have a chat and exchange family photos, play some checkers over the MSN and presto, no problemo. If its indeed as simple as that.
Acronon wrote:You can say what you want mate, it doesn't change the fact that most of your core leaders are Omega rejects that I myself removed and the other are ones that couldn't get into the alliance in the first place.
Guess the pupils bested the masters down the line... ruthless cycle of life that is heh
But I really am intrigued now. Who failed to meet the standard so high its effects are so stellar today? Could it be the very person some went to great lenghts to recruit just prior to this war heh? When you want/have some1 he is gold, when hes not interested/opposition he`s trash. Allways been thus if memory serves half right heh.