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What I mean Eternity is that yes Brdvas' account was used, but while that implies he gave the information, doesn't necessarily confirm it.

blahh wrote:The request was made as i didnt wanna fall under DD list, as even leaders are "obligated" to folow rules
is there war talk? freck there have been war talks and plans on your side for quite a while be4 this, both sides knew it... but chose to "ignore" it as it suited both to extend the nap..

that aside, i doubt any1 in TJP feel cheated, considering i ve had quite a few of them mention we gotta copy the RM move once it was released...

but again, and again, and again, my reasons were quite more selfish, as you or me portray them, and i seriously doubt either side realy knows them, but use this, like said they serve you well

blahh wrote:the content you speak off..

Is a thread i started in tle senate, asking for a permision to leave the empire...

at the time, we were already informed that you guys are preparing for war, so i joined in my leaving the empire...
which btw i ve atempted to do several times but always flatly denied.. with something that was also practical for the "future" of others, in order to gain a more faveourable outcome for myself...

blahh wrote:took the time, checked all screen shots, 1 or 2 topics are post war start... and in the others its like i said

1. me wanting out of tle, (use whatever reason you want, many listed, non lied about, yeah i wanted your naq, yeah i dont like mh, yeah i wanted to help eob, yeah theres more...)
2. TLE (not tjp) senate activly tryn to presuade me not to go..
3. Zeshy backing me up and zesh and me forcing out way out.

As you can see in those posts, blahh/zesh did not do any of this on TLEs behalf...blahh and zesh did it for their own reasons (they are in this thread somewhere, but I'm tired of looking). (we didnt have a say about that, they chose it themselves, they just didnt want to be added to ddlist, so asked permission to leave (first denied permission, then when it was backed up, allowed to leave without DDlist placement))

All this thread has done is shown the sgw public that blahh/zesh asked permission to leave so as to not be placed on DDList... wow...like the sgw public cares about that...

This thread hasnt exposed anything... the only thing it has done is give a chance for both sides to continue the debate on who started the war...

TJP will say FUALL started it, FUALL will say TJP let Blahh and zesh start it .

I'd like to ask for a mod to lock this, as its just a slanderfest between both parties.

Lowra wrote:What I mean Eternity is that yes Brdvas' account was used, but while that implies he gave the information, doesn't necessarily confirm it.

I'd be willing to put my house on the fact that Brdavs had no idea his account was being used for spying purposes. Which leaves some form of hacking as the only other explanation I can think of.

Pele wrote:

Lowra wrote:What I mean Eternity is that yes Brdvas' account was used, but while that implies he gave the information, doesn't necessarily confirm it.

I'd be willing to put my house on the fact that Brdavs had no idea his account was being used for spying purposes. Which leaves some form of hacking as the only other explanation I can think of.

Which confirms my original point. No one has said Brdavs gave the screen shots, which makes this comment a little bit too personal IMO:-

SVaRuN wrote: And another comment from me: What you did to Brdavs and the things you said about him like he gave info. I swear to god I ll INGAME tear your balls off ETL...

It's obvious that most of you did NOT in fact read those screenshots.

Let me sum it up for you.

Blahh asked permission to leave so he could farm FUALL and other alliances that TLE were NAP'd with. The TLE senate told him the possible consequences of his actions (which they were spot on right). They agreed he could come back and join in the fight if they go to war with FUALL over it.

It's not that hard to understand people. If one of your leaders leave to stir up trouble, then expect there to be consequences. That's the responsbility that comes with leading an alliance. There's no reason to hide it. Just man up. Don't try to beat around the bush and twist the truth for no reason. Be responsible for your own actions.

*Sarcasm* OMG!! so this started all this? I thought it was all the hype and build up, I thought it was just 2 rivals or it was the hatred and competitiveness of one another, I thought Fuall just looked at us funny, I thought my cereal one morning spelt out W.A.R, I thought it was the booze, dam I was sooo wrong, im gonna go drop the TJP tag now and join Fuall....
*sarcasm*

Lol so what? Ive fought all server wars agaisnt Fuall, this is just how I roll, who u trying to sway with this ''new evidence''? The neutrals? what? to stay neutrals? lol More than half of the actives in this game are in the war, either ur on one side or ur not.

Point is, we all knew the war was comming, this just speed things up. Who the hell cares which started which, its not like im gonna lay my arms down because of it, neither would anyone. Waste of space.

Only shocker here is that the dude who took the screenshot was too stupid enough to show evidence that he hacked into someone's account, which is very low, even for a game.

Just wonderin who was the hacker? was it the dude who got shaitan demoted because he admitted watching over ur account ETL? idk just a thought.

suzuk wrote:It's obvious that most of you did NOT in fact read those screenshots.

Let me sum it up for you.

Blahh asked permission to leave so he could farm FUALL and other alliances that TLE were NAP'd with. The TLE senate told him the possible consequences of his actions (which they were spot on right). They agreed he could come back and join in the fight if they go to war with FUALL over it.

It's not that hard to understand people. If one of your leaders leave to stir up trouble, then expect there to be consequences. That's the responsbility that comes with leading an alliance. There's no reason to hide it. Just man up. Don't try to beat around the bush and twist the truth for no reason. Be responsible for your own actions.

You mean that the people read the screenshots for what they are and not what you try to make them out to be? Good heavens!

The only thing shown here is that information wasn't willingly given away, but an account was physically broken into, took selective screenshots and posted here to try win some political brownie points because the war ingame is going nowhere for you.

Only it backfired, the cards played once thought a sure bet ended up fickle and now you have posters desperately try to rally a people not phased by political games or others giving up entirely on smearing TLE and instead, trying to equate it to FUALL and saying they're just as bad.

If a leader represents his people as you say, does that mean all of Omega can be said to be lying manipulative individuals who endorse breaking into accounts, extortion, using unintentional ‘features’ and all other sorts of unsavoury activities? Does this also mean that all DDE members are abusive immature posters who make swipes at people's gender/lifestyle choices who endorse a very low standard for the community and all about rule breaking with no forsight or care for anyone else?

Or is this one of those things that only applies to our side?

Either way, fight the war ingame and not here. It's a lot healthier for the community and a lot healthier for your integrity.

Severian wrote:

suzuk wrote:It's obvious that most of you did NOT in fact read those screenshots.

Let me sum it up for you.

Blahh asked permission to leave so he could farm FUALL and other alliances that TLE were NAP'd with. The TLE senate told him the possible consequences of his actions (which they were spot on right). They agreed he could come back and join in the fight if they go to war with FUALL over it.

It's not that hard to understand people. If one of your leaders leave to stir up trouble, then expect there to be consequences. That's the responsbility that comes with leading an alliance. There's no reason to hide it. Just man up. Don't try to beat around the bush and twist the truth for no reason. Be responsible for your own actions.

The only thing shown here is that information wasn't willingly given away, but an account was physically broken into, took selective screenshots and posted here to try win some political brownie points because the war ingame is going nowhere for you.

How can you PHYSICALLY break into the interwebs? Does somebody know how and not sharing the secret?

damn all this BS in this thread
Lock it please
take slander to your MSN

P.S.:
BAD BAD Blahh
how could you?
I actually don't see the thing he did wrong...

And: Hacking?
Why not?
Better than sending spies in my opinion
Cause then the people get betrayed by one of them

Noobert wrote:

Severian wrote:

suzuk wrote:It's obvious that most of you did NOT in fact read those screenshots.

Let me sum it up for you.

Blahh asked permission to leave so he could farm FUALL and other alliances that TLE were NAP'd with. The TLE senate told him the possible consequences of his actions (which they were spot on right). They agreed he could come back and join in the fight if they go to war with FUALL over it.

It's not that hard to understand people. If one of your leaders leave to stir up trouble, then expect there to be consequences. That's the responsbility that comes with leading an alliance. There's no reason to hide it. Just man up. Don't try to beat around the bush and twist the truth for no reason. Be responsible for your own actions.

The only thing shown here is that information wasn't willingly given away, but an account was physically broken into, took selective screenshots and posted here to try win some political brownie points because the war ingame is going nowhere for you.

How can you PHYSICALLY break into the interwebs? Does somebody know how and not sharing the secret?

Ur joking right? Cuz thats just lame lol

Brdavs wrote:Seems I`m the key to the mistery tonight heh...

first off read my posts for context value. From our intel (and everyone elses for that matter) you preping up for war 100km/h was as obvious as can be. So we were liberal with our moves as the worst thing that could have happened happened, we lost a few weeks.

It`s not even that big of a deal considering that forum sees less action that an average geek does sex and at this point what is there to hide, everything is legit from our point of view considering the broader context.

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:PS: As for hacking forums, only noobs do that. It's way more fun turning people. I personally have no great skill at hacking. Do I have access to people who could hack military computers? Yes and I'm sure alot of people on here do have decent skills at it or know someone who does. There are lines one shouldn't cross, and hacking someone's site over a game is one of them. Getting information in other ways..well that's a whole different matter.

As for this little pile of BS....

YOU SIR ARE A GRADE A A HOLLE. Simple as. Get whoever haxed for you (or you did yourself) a lession in solid printscreen cuts cos you can see he was logged into my account when taking them in atleast one screen.

Now I`m 5% **Filtered** at you hacking (and thats about the only way you could have gotten my pass as its a slovenain one you could hardly have guessed) me, and 95% **Filtered** at myself for dropping the ball so spectacularly.

But what I do really REALLY **Filtered** resent is the gaul to cover it up by the BS that I betrayed my alliance, fellow countrymen an ppl that got me involved in SGW in the first place. And you could have picked a better one to hack not me, with my track record of alliances and forum behaveour.



Now that my credibilty (and selfrespect lol) is all but ruined I`m willing to get the boot from TJP. Infact I want the **Filtered** boot and you`ll see me on your and FUALL ass (to the best of my admitably limited capacity) from this moment on till the end of SGWor till I have a UU to my name - way beyond the timelimit of this war. Hacking I can allmost live with, a testiment to my stupidity in some areas but this BS I`ll never forgive. I never liked you before, thatmuch I wager any1 gathered from just about everywhere but THIS is taking our relations to a record level **Filtered**.

@lowa
here you can see in etls quote... that he prefers "turning" ppl over hacking, there4 again implyn that he turned whoever was used to provide screenies, and actualy condoning who ever actualy hacked the account or whatever he did..

I have no doubt the original idea behind his statement was to cause confusion, and let us start a witchhunt for the "traitor".. plans within plans... devide and conquer ect... sadly he made stuf also alot easy as his "cutting" abilities are not that superb aperently kinda like his "massing skilz"


@evry1 else, yes i m a bad boy, and proud of it and realy... who could say no to farming fuall... you are just soo jummy

blahh wrote:

@evry1 else, yes i m a bad boy, and proud of it and realy... who could say no to farming fuall... you are just soo jummy

I know
I even tried to farm myself
didn't work

Noobert wrote:

Severian wrote:

suzuk wrote:It's obvious that most of you did NOT in fact read those screenshots.

Let me sum it up for you.

Blahh asked permission to leave so he could farm FUALL and other alliances that TLE were NAP'd with. The TLE senate told him the possible consequences of his actions (which they were spot on right). They agreed he could come back and join in the fight if they go to war with FUALL over it.

It's not that hard to understand people. If one of your leaders leave to stir up trouble, then expect there to be consequences. That's the responsbility that comes with leading an alliance. There's no reason to hide it. Just man up. Don't try to beat around the bush and twist the truth for no reason. Be responsible for your own actions.

The only thing shown here is that information wasn't willingly given away, but an account was physically broken into, took selective screenshots and posted here to try win some political brownie points because the war ingame is going nowhere for you.

How can you PHYSICALLY break into the interwebs? Does somebody know how and not sharing the secret?

While the Internet casts a digital medium we enjoy, it is still an entity that is formed of a series of interconnected computer networks. If you want to argue semantics, digital signals were used to transfer information required to break into Brdavs account without permission. Digital signals being a real physical electronical signal that exists. What difference in the concept/method/ideas is there between breaking down a door, using sonic frequences to break into something by applying its natural frequencies or using digital signals to break into a digital hold?

They are all using something that physically exists to gain access into something they do not have permission for.

There was no need to be so petty about it trying to argue semantics as a method to draw attention away from the issues and points I raised. You are doing Mayhem's already badly damaged image no favours.

thats just cause youre greek, but it realy is beautiful, maybe next life time, youre born as something better

Boooby wrote:

Noobert wrote:

Severian wrote:

suzuk wrote:It's obvious that most of you did NOT in fact read those screenshots.

Let me sum it up for you.

Blahh asked permission to leave so he could farm FUALL and other alliances that TLE were NAP'd with. The TLE senate told him the possible consequences of his actions (which they were spot on right). They agreed he could come back and join in the fight if they go to war with FUALL over it.

It's not that hard to understand people. If one of your leaders leave to stir up trouble, then expect there to be consequences. That's the responsbility that comes with leading an alliance. There's no reason to hide it. Just man up. Don't try to beat around the bush and twist the truth for no reason. Be responsible for your own actions.

The only thing shown here is that information wasn't willingly given away, but an account was physically broken into, took selective screenshots and posted here to try win some political brownie points because the war ingame is going nowhere for you.

How can you PHYSICALLY break into the interwebs? Does somebody know how and not sharing the secret?

Ur joking right? Cuz thats just lame lol

Obviously. If anyone could 'physically' hack into the internet, they would be invincible.