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Re: Homosexual Marraige
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:05 am
by Mordack
I don't really think you can choose who you're attracted to. I've never been able to, at least, and my life would have been significantly easier at various points if I'd been able to do so. I don't think gay people can anymore choose to be attracted to women than the average straight gay could suddenly decide he wanted to try batting for the other team. I don't think I could do it; could any of you?
I tend to go with nature, to be honest. I've know someone from a macho football hooligan environment who turned out to be gay, and someone with lesbian parents who grew into a casanova star athlete. It's not a choice, it's just bad luck.
Re: Homosexual Marraige
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:12 am
by Brdavs
[KMA]Avenger wrote:Brdavs wrote:Cant we just accept that God made them that way?

NO! unless your saying "God" (or nature, take your pick) made a mistake?
or that God/nature somehow approves of homosexuality?
or that "God" gave men and women a rectum so it could be penetrated?
or that men were meant to have a 3rd hole "God" somehow forgot to install?
or....
You`re the one implying being homosexual is a "mistake", not me heh... I have "faith".

If you stand for god being the creator you gotta accept that he has a divine plan for these people he made thus, who are we to judge his work. And if you`re an evolution guy, perhaps this is evolutions answer to our overpopulation of the planet?

God gave women a mouth to eat and talk. You saying BJs are a sin lol?
Re: Homosexual Marraige
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:27 am
by MajorLeeHurts
Brdavs wrote:
God gave women a mouth to eat and talk. You saying BJs are a sin lol?
Damn well better not be !!! Holy crap Im gona burn in Hell
God has nothing to do with this except through projection. Humans are humans no one human has any right to define how another human chooses to live there life.
Re: Homosexual Marraige
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:35 am
by [KMA]Avenger
Brdavs wrote:[KMA]Avenger wrote:Brdavs wrote:Cant we just accept that God made them that way?

NO! unless your saying "God" (or nature, take your pick) made a mistake?
or that God/nature somehow approves of homosexuality?
or that "God" gave men and women a rectum so it could be penetrated?
or that men were meant to have a 3rd hole "God" somehow forgot to install?
or....
You`re the one implying being homosexual is a "mistake", not me heh... I have "faith".

If you stand for god being the creator you gotta accept that he has a divine plan for these people he made thus, who are we to judge his work. And if you`re an evolution guy, perhaps this is evolutions answer to our overpopulation of the planet?

God gave women a mouth to eat and talk. You saying BJs are a sin lol?
a BJ like food involves erm...something going in the mouth...buggery involves going the wrong way up a very dirty road, unless your a lesbian...this getting somewhat erm...lol

Re: Homosexual Marraige
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:50 am
by MajorLeeHurts
[KMA]Avenger wrote:Brdavs wrote:[KMA]Avenger wrote:Brdavs wrote:Cant we just accept that God made them that way?

NO! unless your saying "God" (or nature, take your pick) made a mistake?
or that God/nature somehow approves of homosexuality?
or that "God" gave men and women a rectum so it could be penetrated?
or that men were meant to have a 3rd hole "God" somehow forgot to install?
or....
You`re the one implying being homosexual is a "mistake", not me heh... I have "faith".

If you stand for god being the creator you gotta accept that he has a divine plan for these people he made thus, who are we to judge his work. And if you`re an evolution guy, perhaps this is evolutions answer to our overpopulation of the planet?

God gave women a mouth to eat and talk. You saying BJs are a sin lol?
a BJ like food involves erm...something going in the mouth...buggery involves going the wrong way up a very dirty road, unless your a lesbian...this getting somewhat erm...lol

I agree lol this is getting a little graphic but Avenger your an adult, there are much stranger and straight people I might add performing even more unimaginable sexual acts than the love making of 2 men. Anyone remember the gerbil incident. Now thats a sin, poor gerbil.
Re: Homosexual Marraige
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:13 am
by fireball37
Mister Sandman wrote:"Grown Up with it" - Environment, I assume people said you are gay because you may be more "feminine" than others. I assume people have called you a gay.
No, actually you're completely wrong, I was one of the more masculine ones when I was growing up, and probably still am now. I like drinking beer, watching sports etc. For all intensive purposes I'm no different to any other guy out there... And no one ever told me I was gay... maybe once or twice as an insult after losing a fight, or just being generally unpleasant, but never as anything more.
Mister Sandman wrote:You saying that you would rather choose being straight over being gay is direct conflict with your way of life. If you want to be straight, then there isn't anything you stopping you, apart from yourself, to become straight.
You think I haven't tried? I even had a girlfriend for a while when I was younger, and it was a terrible relationship, I couldn't even kiss her without feeling sick, and emotionally I think I would have round up hating her if I hadn't had the sense to break it off early... I can't change my instincts, and nothing is more instinctive than a relationship, attraction comes automatically, you can't change that.
Mister Sandman wrote:That is basically saying if a horse who is a mental, emotional and physical match is "acceptable" by your terms.
That is sick, wrong, and plainly weird.
Now that's just being stupid, it's like you saying if you like women with brown hair
you must be attracted to chestnut horses, besides, how is an animal supposed to be mentally, physically or emotionally the same as a human!?!
Re: Homosexual Marraige
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:32 am
by [KMA]Avenger
MajorLeeHurts wrote:[KMA]Avenger wrote:Brdavs wrote:[KMA]Avenger wrote:Brdavs wrote:Cant we just accept that God made them that way?

NO! unless your saying "God" (or nature, take your pick) made a mistake?
or that God/nature somehow approves of homosexuality?
or that "God" gave men and women a rectum so it could be penetrated?
or that men were meant to have a 3rd hole "God" somehow forgot to install?
or....
You`re the one implying being homosexual is a "mistake", not me heh... I have "faith".

If you stand for god being the creator you gotta accept that he has a divine plan for these people he made thus, who are we to judge his work. And if you`re an evolution guy, perhaps this is evolutions answer to our overpopulation of the planet?

God gave women a mouth to eat and talk. You saying BJs are a sin lol?
a BJ like food involves erm...something going in the mouth...buggery involves going the wrong way up a very dirty road, unless your a lesbian...this getting somewhat erm...lol

I agree lol this is getting a little graphic but Avenger your an adult, there are much stranger and straight people I might add performing even more unimaginable sexual acts than the love making of 2 men. Anyone remember the gerbil incident. Now thats a sin, poor gerbil.
no comment about gerbil

Re: Homosexual Marraige
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:44 pm
by Thriller
[KMA]Avenger wrote:the thought of getting into bed with someone either as hairy as me or built like a man (and i've seen some woman who are built like men

) is well....

amp;
@fireball...dude, saying women are physically not equal to men is laughable. i've met some women who are total animals in the bed and the very thought of them being treated like flowers is completely off putting for them.
i know your saying thats the impression you get when you see them but let me tell you something...there are women out there who might look petite but are more aggressive and robust in the bed than men!
and just for the record, i would NEVER accept anyone in my family telling me they were gay, chances are in my family they would never even get the chance to tell me, i would have to fight off the rest of the family just to get a boot in!!!
you should try a Klingon woman...damn, i'd love to give 1 of them a going over
just kidding, trying to lighten the mood

If i ever caught a person or group of people beating a person senseless just because they were gay. I would not hesitate to cripple the lot for life.
Re: Homosexual Marraige
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:39 pm
by fireball37
Thriller wrote:If i ever caught a person or group of people beating a person senseless just because they were gay. I would not hesitate to cripple the lot for life.
Thanks Thriller, it means a lot that people disagree with this...
Re: Homosexual Marraige
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:49 pm
by Juliette
fireball37 wrote:Thriller wrote:If i ever caught a person or group of people beating a person senseless just because they were gay. I would not hesitate to cripple the lot for life.
Thanks Thriller, it means a lot that people disagree with this...
Why would you beat someone because they
were gay? I mean, that would mean you've achieved your goals already.. yes. So beating someone because they were gay, very bad, exactly.
Completely agree.
Re: Homosexual Marraige
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:01 pm
by Mister Sandman
fireball37 wrote:No, actually you're completely wrong, I was one of the more masculine ones when I was growing up, and probably still am now. I like drinking beer, watching sports etc. For all intensive purposes I'm no different to any other guy out there... And no one ever told me I was gay... maybe once or twice as an insult after losing a fight, or just being generally unpleasant, but never as anything more.
Then there must be some sort of "trigger" a mental trigger ...Noone has to be gay.fireball37 wrote:You think I haven't tried? I even had a girlfriend for a while when I was younger, and it was a terrible relationship, I couldn't even kiss her without feeling sick, and emotionally I think I would have round up hating her if I hadn't had the sense to break it off early... I can't change my instincts, and nothing is more instinctive than a relationship, attraction comes automatically, you can't change that.
One can change their instincts. People can change their instincts. Nothing is impossible.fireball37 wrote:Now that's just being stupid, it's like you saying if you like women with brown hair you must be attracted to chestnut horses, besides, how is an animal supposed to be mentally, physically or emotionally the same as a human!?!
Oh, but a horse has a personality, they are smart and oh so beautiful. And by "chance" you meet a match, which is a horse, you say that there wont be a problem if the you get married.
I'm just pointing out the stupidity of people saying "Love is not a choice"
It is a choice, if you can choose to hate, then you can choose to love. Simple.
Re: Homosexual Marraige
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:35 pm
by Thriller
Mister Sandman wrote:fireball37 wrote:No, actually you're completely wrong, I was one of the more masculine ones when I was growing up, and probably still am now. I like drinking beer, watching sports etc. For all intensive purposes I'm no different to any other guy out there... And no one ever told me I was gay... maybe once or twice as an insult after losing a fight, or just being generally unpleasant, but never as anything more.
Then there must be some sort of "trigger" a mental trigger ...Noone has to be gay.fireball37 wrote:You think I haven't tried? I even had a girlfriend for a while when I was younger, and it was a terrible relationship, I couldn't even kiss her without feeling sick, and emotionally I think I would have round up hating her if I hadn't had the sense to break it off early... I can't change my instincts, and nothing is more instinctive than a relationship, attraction comes automatically, you can't change that.
One can change their instincts. People can change their instincts. Nothing is impossible.fireball37 wrote:Now that's just being stupid, it's like you saying if you like women with brown hair you must be attracted to chestnut horses, besides, how is an animal supposed to be mentally, physically or emotionally the same as a human!?!
Oh, but a horse has a personality, they are smart and oh so beautiful. And by "chance" you meet a match, which is a horse, you say that there wont be a problem if the you get married.
I'm just pointing out the stupidity of people saying "Love is not a choice"
It is a choice, if you can choose to hate, then you can choose to love. Simple.
Yes, it is simple, in your black and white make believe reality you present.
Re: Homosexual Marraige
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:53 pm
by Mister Sandman
Some things are black and white, and the issue of choice is.
Re: Homosexual Marraige
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:09 pm
by Thriller
Mister Sandman wrote:Some things are black and white, and the issue of choice is.
Lol, One thing in this universe that's definitely not black and white, is choice.
I think we found our sticking point.
Re: Homosexual Marraige
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:45 pm
by Mister Sandman
Thriller wrote:Mister Sandman wrote:Some things are black and white, and the issue of choice is.
Lol, One thing in this universe that's definitely not black and white, is choice.
I think we found our sticking point.
Im sorry but it is.