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Mezz theres no point in arguing with Deni, seems stuck in her ways and fantasy land

~Coyle~ wrote:Mezz theres no point in arguing with Deni, seems stuck in her ways and fantasy land

I offered to show you the msn logs (and you can confirm them with MLH if you wish).

I guess you do not want to read them cause you are afraid they will shatter your delusions?

Now who is living in fantasy land Coyle?


Coyle, you were part of the conversations? Please refresh my memory, because I do not see your name in any of the logs?

~Coyle~ wrote:Mezz theres no point in arguing with Deni, seems stuck in her ways and fantasy land

Its not fantasy Coyle, and its not propoganda she is very accurate here with the statements. I was not anywhere close to command at these times but I do remember the discussions amongst many outsiders going on about this..this is where things began to go sour amongst yourselves..FS wanted what FS wanted and got pissy when FS didnt get it..I remember the immanent war discussions from you guys and all of the slander from your camp WELL before DDE even payed you any mind at all.

Well..back to the reason as to why this war started....FS didnt get thier way after months and months of warring inferior alliances and losing war alliance of the year to......DDE, well not only did we bang it down in the server war we had..I dunno 20 or so in that same year in addition...anyways thats probably irrelevant now..play me guys, winner takes all.

k

THANKS FOR ALL THAT.........A FEW MORE MINUTES OF LIFE WE ALL WILL NEVER GET BACK. frankly history fails us all cause it becomes so subjective

so what did u get to kill today GUYS

papa~smurf wrote:k

THANKS FOR ALL THAT.........A FEW MORE MINUTES OF LIFE WE ALL WILL NEVER GET BACK. frankly history fails us all cause it becomes so subjective

so what did u get to kill today GUYS

none of yours forum fighter

Jedi~Tank wrote:

~Coyle~ wrote:Mezz theres no point in arguing with Deni, seems stuck in her ways and fantasy land

Its not fantasy Coyle, and its not propoganda she is very accurate here with the statements. I was not anywhere close to command at these times but I do remember the discussions amongst many outsiders going on about this..this is where things began to go sour amongst yourselves..FS wanted what FS wanted and got pissy when FS didnt get it..I remember the immanent war discussions from you guys and all of the slander from your camp WELL before DDE even payed you any mind at all.

Well..back to the reason as to why this war started....FS didnt get thier way after months and months of warring inferior alliances and losing war alliance of the year to......DDE, well not only did we bang it down in the server war we had..I dunno 20 or so in that same year in addition...anyways thats probably irrelevant now..play me guys, winner takes all.

Man there was many of your members sniping in our threads well before this started, it went both ways, and really again about the war allaince of the year? you had enough members in your empire to vote without needing anyone outside to vote, ya forgot that? I didnt mind, ill give ya props, you lot deserved it.
As Mezz suggested about equal accounts in a whatever v whatever or you dont trust your own members to put it up to us in that? C'mon JT why not that?

~Coyle~ wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

~Coyle~ wrote:Mezz theres no point in arguing with Deni, seems stuck in her ways and fantasy land

Its not fantasy Coyle, and its not propoganda she is very accurate here with the statements. I was not anywhere close to command at these times but I do remember the discussions amongst many outsiders going on about this..this is where things began to go sour amongst yourselves..FS wanted what FS wanted and got pissy when FS didnt get it..I remember the immanent war discussions from you guys and all of the slander from your camp WELL before DDE even payed you any mind at all.

Well..back to the reason as to why this war started....FS didnt get thier way after months and months of warring inferior alliances and losing war alliance of the year to......DDE, well not only did we bang it down in the server war we had..I dunno 20 or so in that same year in addition...anyways thats probably irrelevant now..play me guys, winner takes all.

Man there was many of your members sniping in our threads well before this started, it went both ways, and really again about the war allaince of the year? you had enough members in your empire to vote without needing anyone outside to vote, ya forgot that? I didnt mind, ill give ya props, you lot deserved it.
As Mezz suggested about equal accounts in a whatever v whatever or you dont trust your own members to put it up to us in that? C'mon JT why not that?

Thats not going to work Coyle..its just another feeble attemtp at propoganda on your part..I offered to send my Scorpion Squad but got no reply..I think me vs yours will work..I mean after all you only will have to 0 1 whilst I have the challenge of 0ing many..Im not afraid are you? And do not speak to me about account power and disadvantages..I made my name whilst being smaller than my opponents in the 1st half of the server war as I took on and defeated the best the enemy had to offer at those points..I didnt make excuses I perservered, will you?

Jedi~Tank wrote:

papa~smurf wrote:k

THANKS FOR ALL THAT.........A FEW MORE MINUTES OF LIFE WE ALL WILL NEVER GET BACK. frankly history fails us all cause it becomes so subjective

so what did u get to kill today GUYS

none of yours forum fighter

och so hurtful lol

Jedi~Tank wrote:

~Coyle~ wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

~Coyle~ wrote:Mezz theres no point in arguing with Deni, seems stuck in her ways and fantasy land

Its not fantasy Coyle, and its not propoganda she is very accurate here with the statements. I was not anywhere close to command at these times but I do remember the discussions amongst many outsiders going on about this..this is where things began to go sour amongst yourselves..FS wanted what FS wanted and got pissy when FS didnt get it..I remember the immanent war discussions from you guys and all of the slander from your camp WELL before DDE even payed you any mind at all.

Well..back to the reason as to why this war started....FS didnt get thier way after months and months of warring inferior alliances and losing war alliance of the year to......DDE, well not only did we bang it down in the server war we had..I dunno 20 or so in that same year in addition...anyways thats probably irrelevant now..play me guys, winner takes all.

Man there was many of your members sniping in our threads well before this started, it went both ways, and really again about the war allaince of the year? you had enough members in your empire to vote without needing anyone outside to vote, ya forgot that? I didnt mind, ill give ya props, you lot deserved it.
As Mezz suggested about equal accounts in a whatever v whatever or you dont trust your own members to put it up to us in that? C'mon JT why not that?

Thats not going to work Coyle..its just another feeble attemtp at propoganda on your part..I offered to send my Scorpion Squad but got no reply..I think me vs yours will work..I mean after all you only will have to 0 1 whilst I have the challenge of 0ing many..Im not afraid are you? And do not speak to me about account power and disadvantages..I made my name whilst being smaller than my opponents in the 1st half of the server war as I took on and defeated the best the enemy had to offer at those points..I didnt make excuses I perservered, will you?

Not excuses, throw a squad together and we will roll otherwise its a no go.
When did you offer any squad? i must have missed the memo

you did. My squad is

JT
Deni
Ryland
Myhill
CJO
Qacol

deni wrote:

MEZZANINE wrote:

deni wrote:

MEZZANINE wrote:

deni wrote:

MEZZANINE wrote:@ Deni, please try just for once to READ a post, and NOT totally mis-represent it's meaning in your reply. You wonder why no one in FS wanted to discuss the 7-v-7 with you, it's because of BS posts like those.

Well Mezzanine, my desire to talk to you or your fellow leadership staff is almost non existant, yet I tried assuming that your offer for an online fight was serious.

Apparently I was wrong and your previous posts only confirm that.

It was a serious suggestion made as a way of deciding a winner to this war, the moment YOU said it would not end the war the idea became pointless. Like I said many times DDE only fight when the odds are in your favor, I never made the suggestion, and personally never believed for a second you would allow a war to be decided by a fair fight so it came as no surprise that YOU were not up for it.

Do I see JT offering you a 7 vs him?

Do I see you refusing it?

Did I contact FS about the original suggestion?

Did FS ignore me "cause they do not like me"?


Everyone who can basic reading skills will answer those questions with "yes" and make up their mind of who is afraid of an onliner.




That's what I call a perfect example of shooting into your own foot. Priceless.

Did I not already say a FAIR fight, several equally matching accounts or at least the same number of higher/lower matches ?

Did I not already say, this was a war deciding suggestion, which YOU said clearly YOU would not agree to deciding or ending the war

Did I not already say, most the people in FS dont want to speak with you because of your BS, and the one who did volunteer to discuss with you just got a new job in RL and would contact you when he was free.

Yes actually Im sure I already said all those things very cleary, but YOU either dont read or deliberately twist and distort everything said in your replies

And as always when kills on DDE are posted you bury them in pages of BS

I do not have anything to "distort" nor "twist" as you do all the twisting yourself - by twisting yourself out of your own suggestion.


Weak.

MEZZANINE wrote:

deni wrote:Of course they are.

FS just hates us cause they know they cannot be like us

How quickly you forget, it was not so long ago you wanted to absorb FS into DDE. fact is you gave us the choice be just like you and we said HELL NO

Now that is funny.

That you for conforming my words - you wanted to be like us, you got denied now you wallow in self pity.


Please refresh my memory, but do you refer to Easy & MLH approaching me about joining under DDE's banner as a separate alliance? About 3 years ago? So FS gets protection and falls under the FUALL NAP?

If you do want to join DDE, you do so under my terms. Not yours. How hard is that swallow?

Now you're getting over your head dear. I came to GunZ to join Fuall in the big fat server war, and what did i get? A pile of BS, where i was told i could join if i merged my alliance with DDE. So don't you go twisting your words hah. I never liked any of you accept for OE ( talking only about alliances not individuals here) and i only wanted to join because i hated Svarun and his way of doing things waaaaay more than yours. And in that story i have not once had a conversation with YOU. My first and last "decent" conversation with you was on the night FS got massed by DDE and war was declared.

Oh and JT, when were we rejected by TFF? I personally told Svarun a dozen times to shove it...and blahh too for that matter.

Easy^

PS: Before you go tell me i've been on PPT for a while now, i'll inform you that some1 passed away in the family and i had to take care of a few things.

Jedi~Tank wrote:

MEZZANINE wrote:@ Deni, You're are the one confused, I wasnt in that specific convo but I was HC, I saw the copy PMs inviting us to approach FUALL & TTF, and all the invites were in the month or so running up to the start of the server war when both sides were trying to get as many alliances/members as possible in preparation. I was also in the HC discussions as to what would be offered, and the feedback after each meeting. FS HC agreed that we should speak with both sides before deciding if we were going to be in the server war, and if so what side to take. As it happened your insulting offer put us off the FUALL side, and being under the old TLE ( which we had recently been at war with in the Zion fiasco ) put us off the TTF side, so we stayed out of the server war. We never wanted to join DDE, and the allegiances we did discuss/consider were only ever going to be short term for the duration of the server war.

@ JT, Im sure someone in DDE has an account equal to my own, same cover/AC/lifers etc. So why dont you swap with them for a day and face me on equal terms, see how tough you are without your $uper$ized account.

I have no problem with that..I have a better idea..why dont you get your c level up a notch, your 36 Im 37 and we will see how tough you are..and again with the $$ talk..you simply have no idea what you blab about If your guns aint as big as my guns dont cry get bigger ones..you couldnt beat me anyways before when I was up and coming what makes you think you can now? you skills have not improved old man you still play the same, you are slow.

I dont recall us ever fighting on equal terms, the only time your covert/AC were ever lower than mine was when you were ascending, and your barely played 'your' account at all at that time, and back last year when we were both LG+1s the only battles you won were MS battles which considering your MS was 4x the size of mine didnt exactly take any skill

So your saying NO to a fair fight again, and saying we'll only have a fair fight if I save up 500 Trill for my next Covert & AC, well so be it, but that will take some time to save up so stop whining about no one fighting you until I have saved up enough to match your account.

@ Deni, I never said PMs were from you, I said we were invited by some FUALL members to approach FUALL HC, you really should learn to read, when we tried to make contact we were directed to you and we were informed you would be representing FUALL not DDE. And yes if you have timestamped screenshots of MSN convo please do share, if all your offering is some made up copy/paste then dont bother as you dont have any credibility to pull off a scam like that.










Anyway to refresh the reason this has gone so off topic is because Deni says we want to be like DDE, and I say we were already offered the chance to be absorbed into DDE and we said HELL NO. Nothing has changed, we didnt want to be DDE then, we certainly dont now.

And just to wind you up, the reason for the last few pages of spam BS was to bury DDEs losses today

I believe it was 100+ weapons, 50 Mill supers & 40 Mill spies, a 25 trill def.

Now you can spam up a few more pages of BS to bury your dead again

Jedi~Tank wrote:you did. My squad is

JT
Deni
Ryland
Myhill
CJO
Qacol

I didnt
Catch me on MSN then sometime soon and add another one to that squad and maybe something can be done but if Deni's stance is still its not the final battle then no point in talking, try again next annversary

Oh well, seems FS is approaching us with offers they do not intend to fulfill in the first place.

All you get back is insults and BS.


I will keep that in mind.


@Easy: GunZ was not involved in any of the conversations. He could speak for OE and for FUALL in matters that affected the whole of FUALL, but he cannot speak for the inner alliance issues of DDE. No one could at that time besides REK, Archon and me. You are not as naive as you try to appear, aren't you?

@Mezz: As you do not believe me ask MLH for the convo she had in FS's name with Star, Lore and me. Sometime in April 2008. Then you will see who offered whom what. You do trust MLH, do you?


But I am glad the truth finally came out. DDE never invited you nor approached you in order to "recruit" you, but DDE HC was approached by you with inquieries about under what terms FS could join us.

"Sometime in April 2008"

really something in April of 2008 ? how many pages have u gone on for about it in oct of 2010 ?

and u still have convos stored from that time....just in case (of what i do not know).........
wow......any one else think that's a little.....well..compulsive

so what did u all do TODAY