Re: TLE and Blahh exposed!
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:27 am
blahh wrote:thats just cause youre greek, but it realy is beautiful, maybe next life time, youre born as something better
As EtL
These are the forums for the GateWa.rs family of text-based space-centred PBBGs
https://talk.gatewa.rs/
blahh wrote:thats just cause youre greek, but it realy is beautiful, maybe next life time, youre born as something better
[/spoiler]Severian wrote:Noobert wrote:Severian wrote:suzuk wrote:It's obvious that most of you did NOT in fact read those screenshots.
Let me sum it up for you.
Blahh asked permission to leave so he could farm FUALL and other alliances that TLE were NAP'd with. The TLE senate told him the possible consequences of his actions (which they were spot on right). They agreed he could come back and join in the fight if they go to war with FUALL over it.
It's not that hard to understand people. If one of your leaders leave to stir up trouble, then expect there to be consequences. That's the responsbility that comes with leading an alliance. There's no reason to hide it. Just man up. Don't try to beat around the bush and twist the truth for no reason. Be responsible for your own actions.
The only thing shown here is that information wasn't willingly given away, but an account was physically broken into, took selective screenshots and posted here to try win some political brownie points because the war ingame is going nowhere for you.
How can you PHYSICALLY break into the interwebs? Does somebody know how and not sharing the secret?
While the Internet casts a digital medium we enjoy, it is still an entity that is formed of a series of interconnected computer networks. If you want to argue semantics, digital signals were used to transfer information required to break into Brdavs account without permission. Digital signals being a real physical electronical signal that exists. What difference in the concept/method/ideas is there between breaking down a door, using sonic frequences to break into something by applying its natural frequencies or using digital signals to break into a digital hold?
They are all using something that physically exists to gain access into something they do not have permission for.
There was no need to be so petty about it trying to argue semantics as a method to draw attention away from the issues and points I raised. You are doing Mayhem's already badly damaged image no favours.
SSG EnterTheLion wrote:lmao one of your own members who claims to know something of hacking admitted it wasn't! Is this double standards I see? Pianomutt posts something from our forums, it merely amused us. And he did post first after all. There's a saying, "if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen".
So before you continue all your whining, take a good look at yourselves. You claim that FUALL is big bad and evil. Fair enough! But don't go acting as if you are saviours, when you are not!
This thread is not about the war. It is about exposing your self righteousness. Blahh keeps harping on about how it was all his own fault. Yet his actions were condoned by others suggesting he have a secret account with access to your Senate.
Let me post a little chat I had with Gunnih:
03/07/2008 01:27:53 [TDL] GunniH Rhett now I know TLE forums werent hacked
03/07/2008 01:28:00 [TDL] GunniH Rhett so did someone leak it or did you know the pass ?
03/07/2008 01:46:59 [TDL] GunniH Rhett I know a thing or two about hacking and PHP
03/07/2008 01:47:03 [TDL] GunniH Rhett some C++ and some VB too
03/07/2008 01:47:46 [TDL] GunniH Rhett oh and btw. no offence
03/07/2008 01:47:52 [TDL] GunniH Rhett but I doubt you can hack phpBB3
03/07/2008 01:47:54 [TDL] GunniH Rhett =)
I've just included the bits involving their forum. So TLE, cry me a river!
Tekki wrote:ROFL!
I really don't believe this.
TLE are complaining that someone broke into their forum..? When they did that to how many others?
Though if it wasn't broken into then I guess this is what happens when log in details get shared around.
Raven wrote:Tekki wrote:ROFL!
I really don't believe this.
TLE are complaining that someone broke into their forum..? When they did that to how many others?
Though if it wasn't broken into then I guess this is what happens when log in details get shared around.
You really dont have a brain do you?
Hacking is something different then having a spy.
Tekki wrote:Raven wrote:Tekki wrote:ROFL!
I really don't believe this.
TLE are complaining that someone broke into their forum..? When they did that to how many others?
Though if it wasn't broken into then I guess this is what happens when log in details get shared around.
You really dont have a brain do you?
Hacking is something different then having a spy.
I understand perfectly. TLE have admitted to hacking AEU forums. Not a spy but to hacking it.
What I really don't see is how do you know you don't have a spy? Especially if log in details have been shared? Can you completely 100% rule that out?
GunniH wrote:Hai ok, I havent been around since like 1 week after the beginning of the war.
Blahh talked to me earlier and pointed my way here. There are posts after me
here :$ omg celeb.'nywayz.
I think its kinda funny that everyone is like "ohh almighty Rhett da h4x0r".
No offence to you Rhett, your still a mate of mine ^_^.
Anywayez,
phpBB can solidly pride themselves of having an almost 100% secure system.
There have been no phpBB 3 exploits so far [except for one and you have to have moderator status to use it.]
Hey, maybe some guys who haven't done anything else than going through the code looking for holes since
the version 3 came out know something that they could possibly use to hack the forum.
possibly
Ok continuing, the "sid" which was mention by some AR guy I cba to look up his name [no offence] is a md5 sum
of a couple of things. You get a new "sid" everytime you login, you cant use the same on twice and even if I'd post
a link here like http://thelegionempire.net/forum/viewto ... sid=md5sum you couldnt access it.
Amongst the things that are used in the "sid" is your IP address. If someone access's the link from another IP addr.
it will ask the person to login. Thats a fact.
Since phpBB 3 uses sessions and not cookies a cookie stealing script was not used.
And worst case scenario someone "hacked" the webpage. Got access to the phpMyAdmin which contains the MySQL data.
Now there might be some crackers today that can crack a phpBB hash. But believe you me, the intermediate hacker g33k Joe
can not crack a phpBB version 3 md5 which btw. is also salted.
Hey I might be wrong about this but at the time being I'm gonna say:
The Legion Empire forums were _NOT_ hacked but at the same time
I can say Brdavs has my full confidence and support and he is not to be blamed
for what happened.
My guess would be someone knew/found out what Brdavs used as a password.
If he used the same password somewhere else where they could've got it from.
If they knew my or Zesh's password and changed Brdavs's password via admin panel
to frame him.
If its something really easy to guess and so on.
Now I cant see why people are ashamed of these posts. We all know TJP > FUALL no matter what.
Regards, havefun,
~Gunni
Raven wrote:Tekki wrote:Raven wrote:Tekki wrote:ROFL!
I really don't believe this.
TLE are complaining that someone broke into their forum..? When they did that to how many others?
Though if it wasn't broken into then I guess this is what happens when log in details get shared around.
You really dont have a brain do you?
Hacking is something different then having a spy.
I understand perfectly. TLE have admitted to hacking AEU forums. Not a spy but to hacking it.
What I really don't see is how do you know you don't have a spy? Especially if log in details have been shared? Can you completely 100% rule that out?
We know it was hacking because they have done and admitted it before.
And they didnt hack AEU forum.....i was around at that time you just had a bad apple
Tekki wrote:Raven wrote:Tekki wrote:Raven wrote:Tekki wrote:ROFL!
I really don't believe this.
TLE are complaining that someone broke into their forum..? When they did that to how many others?
Though if it wasn't broken into then I guess this is what happens when log in details get shared around.
You really dont have a brain do you?
Hacking is something different then having a spy.
I understand perfectly. TLE have admitted to hacking AEU forums. Not a spy but to hacking it.
What I really don't see is how do you know you don't have a spy? Especially if log in details have been shared? Can you completely 100% rule that out?
We know it was hacking because they have done and admitted it before.
And they didnt hack AEU forum.....i was around at that time you just had a bad apple
Ah so they admitted it BEFORE, therefore they must have done it this time.
The logic is astounding.
And no, since you guys were obsessed with AEU, there was another time when it was hackedI guess we just couldn't help being irresistable
Though now reading Gunnih's post... doesn't that just say that Zesh has and had admin powers, which presumably weren't removed when he 'left'Oh yeah... one of those screen shots says he set up things so that he could be on the forum but hidden.
Rev. Auriel Daniels wrote:Nice post, GunniH.
Some calmness in this thread, always a good spot.