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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:14 pm
by [SGC_ReplicÅtors]
How about no. I'll discuss what ever I want to discuss when it effects my gameplay, regardless of who gets it. I'd probably discuss the same if someone posted about the goauld special tech.


If u have raed carefully i said IMHO(in my humble opinion), i am not saying u "should" not talk at all but i just gave my honest opinion about the matter.

I'm not a living god, but those players have worked to get those bonuses, and spent billions in unrecoverable losses (not to mention millions of UU for those players). The balance is that to ascend, you must wipe your account, to become a living god, it's 5 times, and it costs a MINIMUM of aprox 200 BILLION naq just to get your stats back up to the level where you get GR points 5 times. Plus it takes time. And it takes UU.


Yes i no they worked hard for those bonues i seen the formulas whihc governs ascnesion will my alliance had to figure that out...

Boo hoo, it's not the ascended players fault the other alliance has'nt ascended, that's their choice, they have been able to build their account for the entire time the living gods have been ascending, as well as having billions more in naq, more UP (well, at least until the player becomes a living god). They are "godlike" because they have invested time, effort, and a hell of a lot of naq and UU into becoming ascended. The other player has'nt, he keeps his bonuses, naq, uu and can use them on his only account, and we have ours.

Don't blame ascended players because others choose not to ascend.


What bonuses? u mean those base bonus like technology? race nique,naq,UU, bonus those arnt bonus those are like commom Commidities that everybody can get.






No, this is'nt SG1, this is SGW, you already have extra weeks or months to upgrade your account, and if you get owned by a living god, it's because he's a better player than you. I keep going back to the BILLIONS of naq and thousands of UU required, that Ascended players sacrifice to ascend, and that unascended players keep and build their accounts with. If you make the wrong choice, bad luck.


This Game is based on it almost everything that i can think of is pretty much based on it. Even with those extra months of building up they still blow past us no matter how many times they have there stuff gone.

What makes a better player? money, rank?. these things mean nothing, i have been in this for a full year and then some heh...does that make me a bad player? becuase i am not at the top? so becuase imade a "bad" choice that means i am not a good player? whoa re u to judge who is a good player or not a good player.


Again, boo hoo, PPT is part of the game. Deal with it. There are many people who have PPT'ed their way to the top as non-ascended, so it's a non-point. You don't think having to spend billions of naq every ascension is hard? Do you think having to plan ascensions weeks\months in advance is easy?


Ya i am dealing with it i realized that, plz it does not take weeks or months all it takes is alot of PPT and time. whihc obvously u dont like.

We'll do what we want within the rules thank you very much. It still takes alot more time and effort to ascend than players who have'nt ascended (who have zero effort, they just keep building, we have to rebuild and plan, which is much harder).


plan on what? setting a time to get ur UU back from a player that holding it? after the cost of the last ascension or simply planning to PPT....
last time i checked this aint hard to plan all it takes is time

Dictate what we post? You just said above that ascended players should'nt be allowed to post here, you know what that is? Hypocrasy.


again i said IMHO thast my opinion whihc i just wanted to state out it doesnt mean u should actually follow it :P

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:59 pm
by Tutankhamen
Well, im working my ass up just to ascend&reascend and u unascended ones want to have bonuses to, u gotta be crazy! But nice try thought :twisted: 8) ! If u want bonuses do the same as im doing, ascending!

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:59 pm
by MackTheKnife
MackTheKnife wrote:How about no. I'll discuss what ever I want to discuss when it effects my gameplay, regardless of who gets it. I'd probably discuss the same if someone posted about the goauld special tech.


[U5][SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:If u have raed carefully i said IMHO(in my humble opinion), i am not saying u "should" not talk at all but i just gave my honest opinion about the matter.


Just because something is an opinion does'nt mean it is immune from being called on if it's wrong, which in this these cases it is. Even if it's an "Opinion", you are still saying "Ascended people should be banned from discussing this. Which is wrong.

I can't say "People who are not ascended should'nt be allowed to discuss GR points or what to do with them" can I? Even if it's an opinion.

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MackTheKnife wrote:I'm not a living god, but those players have worked to get those bonuses, and spent billions in unrecoverable losses (not to mention millions of UU for those players). The balance is that to ascend, you must wipe your account, to become a living god, it's 5 times, and it costs a MINIMUM of aprox 200 BILLION naq just to get your stats back up to the level where you get GR points 5 times. Plus it takes time. And it takes UU.


[U5][SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:Yes i no they worked hard for those bonues i seen the formulas whihc governs ascnesion will my alliance had to figure that out...


Good, you can see that the bonuses are very expensive, time consuming and take planning and intelligence to acheive. So can you see why I don't want other people who have not had to acheive these goals and pay these prices to get free bonuses.

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MackTheKnife wrote:Boo hoo, it's not the ascended players fault the other alliance has'nt ascended, that's their choice, they have been able to build their account for the entire time the living gods have been ascending, as well as having billions more in naq, more UP (well, at least until the player becomes a living god). They are "godlike" because they have invested time, effort, and a hell of a lot of naq and UU into becoming ascended. The other player has'nt, he keeps his bonuses, naq, uu and can use them on his only account, and we have ours.

Don't blame ascended players because others choose not to ascend.


[U5][SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:What bonuses? u mean those base bonus like technology? race nique,naq,UU, bonus those arnt bonus those are like commom Commidities that everybody can get.


I'm not neccessarily talking about race bonuses, I'm saying that, if you choose not to ascend, you can continue building, continue buying UP levels, and not worrying about resetting your account, not worrying about how to rebuild, you basically have extra time and money that you use to build your account. Ascended people don't have a race bonus when they first ascend. They only have a 5% bonus to various areas, compared to other races, they have less bonuses when ascended once, and only after spending more time and effort do they get better.

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MackTheKnife wrote:No, this is'nt SG1, this is SGW, you already have extra weeks or months to upgrade your account, and if you get owned by a living god, it's because he's a better player than you. I keep going back to the BILLIONS of naq and thousands of UU required, that Ascended players sacrifice to ascend, and that unascended players keep and build their accounts with. If you make the wrong choice, bad luck.


[U5][SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:This Game is based on it almost everything that i can think of is pretty much based on it. Even with those extra months of building up they still blow past us no matter how many times they have there stuff gone.


Just because a game is based on something does not mean you have to include everything, or include things just for the hell of it. Especially if they can impact on game balance, or game play or any number of negative things.

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[U5][SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:What makes a better player? money, rank?. these things mean nothing, i have been in this for a full year and then some heh...does that make me a bad player? becuase i am not at the top? so becuase imade a "bad" choice that means i am not a good player? whoa re u to judge who is a good player or not a good player.


I never said you made a bad choice, I'm saying that if you decide you want to do a certain thing, then deal with that choice, don't decide "I'm not ascending" and then come back and say "I want ascended bonuses for no risk, no outlay and no reset".

Same as someone who chooses tauri when they want to play defenseive game makes a bad choice. He can't go "I want tauri to have a Offense bonus like asgard" can he?

Ascended players made their choice, say may have made a bad one, and others made the best one for their accounts.

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MackTheKnife wrote:Again, boo hoo, PPT is part of the game. Deal with it. There are many people who have PPT'ed their way to the top as non-ascended, so it's a non-point. You don't think having to spend billions of naq every ascension is hard? Do you think having to plan ascensions weeks\months in advance is easy?


[U5][SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:Ya i am dealing with it i realized that, plz it does not take weeks or months all it takes is alot of PPT and time. whihc obvously u dont like.


Well, I ascended 3 months ago, and I've only got "Prophet Status". Again, if you are a good player, make the right choices, you can ascend quickly. It's up to each player.

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MackTheKnife wrote:We'll do what we want within the rules thank you very much. It still takes alot more time and effort to ascend than players who have'nt ascended (who have zero effort, they just keep building, we have to rebuild and plan, which is much harder).


[U5][SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:plan on what? setting a time to get ur UU back from a player that holding it? after the cost of the last ascension or simply planning to PPT....
last time i checked this aint hard to plan all it takes is time


I had to plan and aquire (not ppt) resources and units for 3 months before I started the road to ascension. It takes time, effort, resources, planning. Much more than simply continuing on a regular account does.

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MackTheKnife wrote:Dictate what we post? You just said above that ascended players should'nt be allowed to post here, you know what that is? Hypocrasy.


[U5][SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:again i said IMHO thast my opinion whihc i just wanted to state out it doesnt mean u should actually follow it :P


A hypocritical opinion is still hypocritical..

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:09 am
by Bahamut
thunder wrote:
Bahamut wrote:
thunder wrote:alright i read most of that, one if you want the lg status you know how to get it, ......



who was saying about geting LG status ?



sgc rep was taling about it


can u quote that?

i really didn't saw that anywhere maybe my eyes hurt from ačč that quoting

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:44 pm
by thunder
[U5][SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:All i see on the first couple pages are ascneded ppl dominating the playing field why should it, They and most of them are living gods are really close which means they have those bonuses to further make them more godlike and what do we have...nothing to balance the game play...now as for the alliance war idea i posted earlier if that was ever implmeneted do u no how much of those bonus would work to ur advatnages during war time?

Lets say there was a Alliance all ascneded players with LG status and fighting a allaince that has no ascneded players how is the no ascneded alliance suppose to compete..? their is a reason why there c alled LG becuase everything of there is godlike compared to the non ascended player.

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:53 pm
by Bahamut
are u certain u got that correct because i know that he isn't asking that

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:58 pm
by thunder
well i quoted his post so i dont know what i could have goten wrong, but there are always posibilities. reguardless its a very minor point in coparison to the argument as a whole so i dont understand why there is such a focus on it

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:59 am
by Bahamut
may i ask thunder did u ascend or not?

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:54 pm
by Bahamut
oh don't u think that we forgot about this

this is just temporary bump until 2nd part of idea is finished

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:55 pm
by thunder
yes i did acend, why?

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:10 pm
by Bahamut
thunder wrote:yes i did acend, why?



so i can tell u to stop whining how expensive it is!

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:27 pm
by thunder
really i dont remeber complaining about how expensive it is but if im wrong then quote me

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:42 pm
by Bahamut
thunder wrote:really i dont remeber complaining about how expensive it is but if im wrong then quote me


then u agree it isn't expensive it is to cheap and something needs to be done to bring balance to this galaxy?

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:50 pm
by RepliJake
if it's so cheap, why don't you ascend Bahamut...

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:04 pm
by thunder
Bahamut wrote:
thunder wrote:really i dont remeber complaining about how expensive it is but if im wrong then quote me


then u agree it isn't expensive it is to cheap and something needs to be done to bring balance to this galaxy?

no i just didn;t complain about it, it was expensive but it was worth it, a concep you cant seem to grasp