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Re: The Collective vs Judgement

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 1:19 pm
by Phobetor
Prendy wrote:
Phobetor wrote:
JOS wrote:Cleaned 45mil strike weapons from nab, tried to get Belsamber's 12T def but he kept phasing right before I could break through.

Was going to clear the small def Phobetor had up, but was creeping too close to Bloodwar.

Little bit of fun before the work week starts again for me.

I'll throw up some stats worth going after later in the week, no fun building bigger only to get wiped while I'm offline :P

(much more fun getting wiped online instead :D )
I don't think you can consider my defense small.... Considering all you guys have been building is 1t and under... And the fact of iv had this defense for a very long time off ppt...... I be very happy if you guys built even my size defenses
Pretty sure the smallest Def I have built for you guys is 45T lol
This entire war I have had at the least 4t deff... And beginning I had a 25t and a40t

Re: The Collective vs Judgement

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:06 pm
by ~Odin~
The forces of naberius fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 6 damage
The forces of ~Malthael~ fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 3 damage

Destroyed 50mil spies on Nab and Killed about 17mil spies on Malthael. Started to mass Phobetor then noticed he/she was online. Sabbed defence to zero, stole some repair naq and then alliance ppt kicked in. Sorry Harch didnt have the UU or naq for that defence of yours. Tomorrow I will focus more time on gathering UU and naq, I couldn't find much out there today. Right I am off to the gym, prob wont be back on today. Have a good day everyone :)

p.s rebuilt a 12t defence

Re: The Collective vs Judgement

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:23 pm
by Phobetor
~Odin~ wrote:The forces of naberius fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 6 damage
The forces of ~Malthael~ fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 3 damage

Destroyed 50mil spies on Nab and Killed about 17mil spies on Malthael. Started to mass Phobetor then noticed he/she was online. Sabbed defence to zero, stole some repair naq and then alliance ppt kicked in. Sorry Harch didnt have the UU or naq for that defence of yours. Tomorrow I will focus more time on gathering UU and naq, I couldn't find much out there today. Right I am off to the gym, prob wont be back on today. Have a good day everyone :)

p.s rebuilt a 12t defence
did i get to 0? must have just got it to 0 when i bought more weps because i never see the 0... either way def back up... and btw im a guy..

Re: The Collective vs Judgement

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:08 pm
by Belsamber
Prendy wrote:
Phobetor wrote:
JOS wrote:Cleaned 45mil strike weapons from nab, tried to get Belsamber's 12T def but he kept phasing right before I could break through.

Was going to clear the small def Phobetor had up, but was creeping too close to Bloodwar.

Little bit of fun before the work week starts again for me.

I'll throw up some stats worth going after later in the week, no fun building bigger only to get wiped while I'm offline :P

(much more fun getting wiped online instead :D )
I don't think you can consider my defense small.... Considering all you guys have been building is 1t and under... And the fact of iv had this defense for a very long time off ppt...... I be very happy if you guys built even my size defenses
Pretty sure the smallest Def I have built for you guys is 45T lol
Haha harch hit the nail on the head with his comment.

TC build big once in 2 weeks, mass with 20-40tril strikes and 2 tril defences (Bar Odin)

And before anyone panics and says otherwise I really don't mind posting the intel logs of some of my recons to prove that it happens.

Re: The Collective vs Judgement

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:56 pm
by Phobetor
Belsamber wrote:
Prendy wrote:
Phobetor wrote:
JOS wrote:Cleaned 45mil strike weapons from nab, tried to get Belsamber's 12T def but he kept phasing right before I could break through.

Was going to clear the small def Phobetor had up, but was creeping too close to Bloodwar.

Little bit of fun before the work week starts again for me.

I'll throw up some stats worth going after later in the week, no fun building bigger only to get wiped while I'm offline :P

(much more fun getting wiped online instead :D )
I don't think you can consider my defense small.... Considering all you guys have been building is 1t and under... And the fact of iv had this defense for a very long time off ppt...... I be very happy if you guys built even my size defenses
Pretty sure the smallest Def I have built for you guys is 45T lol
Haha harch hit the nail on the head with his comment.

TC build big once in 2 weeks, mass with 20-40tril strikes and 2 tril defences (Bar Odin)

And before anyone panics and says otherwise I really don't mind posting the intel logs of some of my recons to prove that it happens.
Ding ding ding

Re: The Collective vs Judgement

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:19 pm
by harchester
:smt043

Re: The Collective vs Judgement

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:55 pm
by ~Odin~
There was no agreement on rebuilt defences upon logging in lets not forget that. Also the defences that are getting put up are more then the ones that get put up by most of the people involved in the DDE v TF war. In WW2 the allies did not allow Hitler and company to win the battles they wanted to. Yes its correct, not all of us are fighting, not everyone can be active 100% of the time (hell no one is). Some of us are building defences and are massing back, this game is dying every alliance is sadly effect by this some different then others but still effected.

Instead of arguing and debating who builds what lets just knuckle down and do what we are here to do shall we? We wouldn't want this turning into crap storm nothing but insults and **Filtered** (for lack of a better term).

Now who wants a leg hump? :smt112

Re: The Collective vs Judgement

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:55 am
by harchester
Only u rebuild and you only build a defence when your massing other than that you sit at 4 trill or so...

Prendy builds when he masses - but then sits statles until he massed again

Xenon - builds 500bill defences (with the exception of 3/4 midlevel defences) and the occasional 10/15trill defence - once in a blue moon.

None other builds anything worth anything... I personally don't care y'all are great farms and can stay that way...
--------

We don't get massed, actually aside from last few evenings some defences have actually been massed (usually mid level ones)

And all defences are rebuilt to equal or bigger size.
--------

U say that no alliance can be active you choose to bring the collective into war early and unprepared - it's suffering.

And personally I am alittle dissapointed - belsamber and Ian was telling me that we need to be careful of the collective because they are very active....

oh how there opinion and dissapointed showed after day 2 of this war...

I personally hope something better comes out from this war but I don't mind it don't bother me, just another alliance to add to the list.

Knuckle down and do what we are here to do? There is nothing left for us to do, y'all just rolled over and playing dead with the exception of 1/2 of you but that spirit will burn out soon enough...

Re: The Collective vs Judgement

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:32 am
by ~The Fallen~
harchester wrote:Only u rebuild and you only build a defence when your massing other than that you sit at 4 trill or so...

Prendy builds when he masses - but then sits statles until he massed again

Xenon - builds 500bill defences (with the exception of 3/4 midlevel defences) and the occasional 10/15trill defence - once in a blue moon.

None other builds anything worth anything... I personally don't care y'all are great farms and can stay that way...
--------

We don't get massed, actually aside from last few evenings some defences have actually been massed (usually mid level ones)

And all defences are rebuilt to equal or bigger size.
--------

U say that no alliance can be active you choose to bring the collective into war early and unprepared - it's suffering.

And personally I am alittle dissapointed - belsamber and Ian was telling me that we need to be careful of the collective because they are very active....

oh how there opinion and dissapointed showed after day 2 of this war...

I personally hope something better comes out from this war but I don't mind it don't bother me, just another alliance to add to the list.

Knuckle down and do what we are here to do? There is nothing left for us to do, y'all just rolled over and playing dead with the exception of 1/2 of you but that spirit will burn out soon enough...
TL;DR, no books please. :-"

Re: The Collective vs Judgement

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:51 am
by harchester
Secret wrote:
harchester wrote:Only u rebuild and you only build a defence when your massing other than that you sit at 4 trill or so...

Prendy builds when he masses - but then sits statles until he massed again

Xenon - builds 500bill defences (with the exception of 3/4 midlevel defences) and the occasional 10/15trill defence - once in a blue moon.

None other builds anything worth anything... I personally don't care y'all are great farms and can stay that way...
--------

We don't get massed, actually aside from last few evenings some defences have actually been massed (usually mid level ones)

And all defences are rebuilt to equal or bigger size.
--------

U say that no alliance can be active you choose to bring the collective into war early and unprepared - it's suffering.

And personally I am alittle dissapointed - belsamber and Ian was telling me that we need to be careful of the collective because they are very active....

oh how there opinion and dissapointed showed after day 2 of this war...

I personally hope something better comes out from this war but I don't mind it don't bother me, just another alliance to add to the list.

Knuckle down and do what we are here to do? There is nothing left for us to do, y'all just rolled over and playing dead with the exception of 1/2 of you but that spirit will burn out soon enough...
TL;DR, no books please. :-"
turned into odin mode there :smt043

Re: The Collective vs Judgement

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:41 am
by Belsamber
~Odin~ wrote:There was no agreement on rebuilt defences upon logging in lets not forget that, that is why most of us in TC don't. Also the defences that are getting put up are more then the ones that get put up by most of the people involved in the DDE v TF war which has been going on for 3 years whilst this war is 1 week. In WW2 the allies did not allow Hitler and company to win the battles they wanted to, that is why it is clear that TC are the Germans and Judgement the Allies as you can see from the standings. Yes its correct, 1 or 2 of us are fighting, not everyone can be active 100% of the time (hell no one is). Some of us are building "defences" and are massing back, this game is dying every alliance is sadly effect by this some different then others but still effected.

Instead of arguing and debating who builds what lets just knuckle down(This means massing and rebuilding) and do what we are here to do shall we? We wouldn't want this turning into crap storm nothing but insults and **Filtered** (for lack of a better term).

Now who wants a leg hump? :smt112
Edited and gave you a leg hump :smt058
Secret wrote:
harchester wrote:Only u rebuild and you only build a defence when your massing other than that you sit at 4 trill or so...

Prendy builds when he masses - but then sits statles until he massed again

Xenon - builds 500bill defences (with the exception of 3/4 midlevel defences) and the occasional 10/15trill defence - once in a blue moon.

None other builds anything worth anything... I personally don't care y'all are great farms and can stay that way...
--------

We don't get massed, actually aside from last few evenings some defences have actually been massed (usually mid level ones)

And all defences are rebuilt to equal or bigger size.
--------

U say that no alliance can be active you choose to bring the collective into war early and unprepared - it's suffering.

And personally I am alittle dissapointed - belsamber and Ian was telling me that we need to be careful of the collective because they are very active....

oh how there opinion and dissapointed showed after day 2 of this war...

I personally hope something better comes out from this war but I don't mind it don't bother me, just another alliance to add to the list.

Knuckle down and do what we are here to do? There is nothing left for us to do, y'all just rolled over and playing dead with the exception of 1/2 of you but that spirit will burn out soon enough...
TL;DR, no books please. :-"
Odin is changing Harch and what is worse he spoke the truth and I actually for once managed to understand everything he said.

:smt100

Re: The Collective vs Judgement

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:49 am
by harchester
Belsamber wrote:
~Odin~ wrote:There was no agreement on rebuilt defences upon logging in lets not forget that, that is why most of us in TC don't. Also the defences that are getting put up are more then the ones that get put up by most of the people involved in the DDE v TF war which has been going on for 3 years whilst this war is 1 week. In WW2 the allies did not allow Hitler and company to win the battles they wanted to, that is why it is clear that TC are the Germans and Judgement the Allies as you can see from the standings. Yes its correct, 1 or 2 of us are fighting, not everyone can be active 100% of the time (hell no one is). Some of us are building "defences" and are massing back, this game is dying every alliance is sadly effect by this some different then others but still effected.

Instead of arguing and debating who builds what lets just knuckle down(This means massing and rebuilding) and do what we are here to do shall we? We wouldn't want this turning into crap storm nothing but insults and **Filtered** (for lack of a better term).

Now who wants a leg hump? :smt112
Edited and gave you a leg hump :smt058
Secret wrote:
harchester wrote:Only u rebuild and you only build a defence when your massing other than that you sit at 4 trill or so...

Prendy builds when he masses - but then sits statles until he massed again

Xenon - builds 500bill defences (with the exception of 3/4 midlevel defences) and the occasional 10/15trill defence - once in a blue moon.

None other builds anything worth anything... I personally don't care y'all are great farms and can stay that way...
--------

We don't get massed, actually aside from last few evenings some defences have actually been massed (usually mid level ones)

And all defences are rebuilt to equal or bigger size.
--------

U say that no alliance can be active you choose to bring the collective into war early and unprepared - it's suffering.

And personally I am alittle dissapointed - belsamber and Ian was telling me that we need to be careful of the collective because they are very active....

oh how there opinion and dissapointed showed after day 2 of this war...

I personally hope something better comes out from this war but I don't mind it don't bother me, just another alliance to add to the list.

Knuckle down and do what we are here to do? There is nothing left for us to do, y'all just rolled over and playing dead with the exception of 1/2 of you but that spirit will burn out soon enough...
TL;DR, no books please. :-"
Odin is changing Harch and what is worse he spoke the truth and I actually for once managed to understand everything he said.

:smt100
This is why your the d1ck of judgement :)

Re: The Collective vs Judgement

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:59 am
by naberius
Haha love it bels. I thought The Collective was better than this. Do you want me to ask HVE to help you guys out ?

Re: The Collective vs Judgement

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:21 am
by Belsamber
harchester wrote:
Belsamber wrote:
~Odin~ wrote:There was no agreement on rebuilt defences upon logging in lets not forget that, that is why most of us in TC don't. Also the defences that are getting put up are more then the ones that get put up by most of the people involved in the DDE v TF war which has been going on for 3 years whilst this war is 1 week. In WW2 the allies did not allow Hitler and company to win the battles they wanted to, that is why it is clear that TC are the Germans and Judgement the Allies as you can see from the standings. Yes its correct, 1 or 2 of us are fighting, not everyone can be active 100% of the time (hell no one is). Some of us are building "defences" and are massing back, this game is dying every alliance is sadly effect by this some different then others but still effected.

Instead of arguing and debating who builds what lets just knuckle down(This means massing and rebuilding) and do what we are here to do shall we? We wouldn't want this turning into crap storm nothing but insults and **Filtered** (for lack of a better term).

Now who wants a leg hump? :smt112
Edited and gave you a leg hump :smt058
Secret wrote:
harchester wrote:Only u rebuild and you only build a defence when your massing other than that you sit at 4 trill or so...

Prendy builds when he masses - but then sits statles until he massed again

Xenon - builds 500bill defences (with the exception of 3/4 midlevel defences) and the occasional 10/15trill defence - once in a blue moon.

None other builds anything worth anything... I personally don't care y'all are great farms and can stay that way...
--------

We don't get massed, actually aside from last few evenings some defences have actually been massed (usually mid level ones)

And all defences are rebuilt to equal or bigger size.
--------

U say that no alliance can be active you choose to bring the collective into war early and unprepared - it's suffering.

And personally I am alittle dissapointed - belsamber and Ian was telling me that we need to be careful of the collective because they are very active....

oh how there opinion and dissapointed showed after day 2 of this war...

I personally hope something better comes out from this war but I don't mind it don't bother me, just another alliance to add to the list.

Knuckle down and do what we are here to do? There is nothing left for us to do, y'all just rolled over and playing dead with the exception of 1/2 of you but that spirit will burn out soon enough...
TL;DR, no books please. :-"
Odin is changing Harch and what is worse he spoke the truth and I actually for once managed to understand everything he said.

:smt100
This is why your the d1ck of judgement :)
Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never harm me.

You're Thee D1ck of Judgement :-D

Re: The Collective vs Judgement

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:19 am
by Tribulation
~Odin~ wrote:There was no agreement on rebuilt defenses upon logging in lets not forget that.
The war was scheduled for the first of February, to last 2 weeks. Lets not forget who decided to start it 3+ weeks early. Let us also not forget that the last 2 wars you were in, you made sure everyone built at least a token defense
~Odin~ wrote:Also the defenses that are getting put up are more then the ones that get put up by most of the people involved in the DDE v TF war.
Its nice to see you feel the need to compare alliance to the DDE/TF war. The bad news is at any given time, both TF and DDE has at least 1 quad in power. The active ones builds, they get massed, they mass, they build again.

Though they are fighting for each of their own reasons, they still show honor in the fact they don't sit behind a stat less account crying that the other wont build
~Odin~ wrote:In WW2 the allies did not allow Hitler and company to win the battles they wanted to. Yes its correct, not all of us are fighting, not everyone can be active 100% of the time (hell no one is). Some of us are building defenses and are massing back, this game is dying every alliance is sadly effect by this some different then others but still effected.
In WWII, win lose or draw, both sides fought with all they could. Lucky for us, we fought harder, and smarter. Though we had a set date of war, it was you who thought to get the upper hand by declaring war 3 weeks earlier. You took the initiative in bringing your alliance to war. And considering some of your HC members weren't even aware of the fact that you had done that, it shows that you acted in haste, and are now dealing with the repercussions of an alliance with their pants caught down

~Odin~ wrote:Instead of arguing and debating who builds what lets just knuckle down and do what we are here to do shall we? We wouldn't want this turning into crap storm nothing but insults and **Filtered** (for lack of a better term).
If your definition of "knuckle down" means your alliance becomes the new pun to a joke, then you have already won that. I had heard many times that The Collective are a bunch of good people (I don't doubt that) who are very active both on main and VERY active on ascended.

This is TC's standard build

Strike Action: 5,414,xxx,476,806
Defensive Action 23,xxx,000,000
Covert Action: 8,xxx,982,923,483
Covert Operatives: 2,769,215

So far it has been mainly JOS, Prendy and yourself on main, and Secret and Xenon a little on Ascended. You build a large strike on a non existing defense with minimal spies. You attack members who's DA far exceeds their attack, and end up losing mil's in UU, while causing no damage. Based off of that, you are doing an amazing "job" at knuckling down

~Odin~ wrote:Now who wants a leg hump? :smt112
I'd rather be humped by a group of Ape's, so I'll pass. Maybe you should go hump some alliance members. Maybe that will put some fire back into their behinds.