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Re: Homosexual Marraige

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:24 am
by [KMA]Avenger
Mister Sandman wrote:Willpower is stronger than any drug. Willpower is choice.


i wonder how strong your willpower would be if you was a married man, and while out with some lads 1 night your dream woman steps up and made her intention of sleeping with you so clear that a blind man would see it from 10 miles away?!

Re: Homosexual Marraige

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:34 am
by fireball37
Mister Sandman wrote:Depends on the severity of the case.

More Or less, It would be a drug.

Oh really? If the chemical imbalance was chronic and developed early on than it would effect neural development, removing the chemical side of things wouldn't restore the normal neural pattern any more than correcting a diabetics blood sugar would cure than of a ketoacidosis attack.
And don't accuse me of 'whining' when I have far more experience than you in this matter, doesn't the bible say to respect your elders in matters?

Re: Homosexual Marraige

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:02 pm
by Mister Sandman
fireball37 wrote:
Mister Sandman wrote:Depends on the severity of the case.

More Or less, It would be a drug.

Oh really? If the chemical imbalance was chronic and developed early on than it would effect neural development, removing the chemical side of things wouldn't restore the normal neural pattern any more than correcting a diabetics blood sugar would cure than of a ketoacidosis attack.
And don't accuse me of 'whining' when I have far more experience than you in this matter, doesn't the bible say to respect your elders in matters?

Anti-Depressants work by correcting the levels of chemicals in the brain and certain areas. Thus, reducing the effect of "depression" on the patient. Allowing the treated person to choose how they live without being mercenary to the condition. This could work, if a homosexual is a clinical gay, with homosexuals. Thus, freeing them up to make decisions on how they live.

Also, respect doesn't mean obey or say that elders are "Smarter" or "Wiser".


R'zul wrote:
Mister Sandman wrote:Willpower is stronger than any drug. Willpower is choice.


you have quite obviously not had any experience with drugs.

Ive had experience with drugs.


[KMA]Avenger wrote:
Mister Sandman wrote:Willpower is stronger than any drug. Willpower is choice.


i wonder how strong your willpower would be if you was a married man, and while out with some lads 1 night your dream woman steps up and made her intention of sleeping with you so clear that a blind man would see it from 10 miles away?!


Funny you say that. 1. Im not married. 2. A thing like that happened to me however, since I choose not to have sex before I'm married, I said no to her and left.

Re: Homosexual Marraige

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:20 pm
by Thriller
Mister Sandman wrote:
fireball37 wrote:
Mister Sandman wrote:Depends on the severity of the case.

More Or less, It would be a drug.

Oh really? If the chemical imbalance was chronic and developed early on than it would effect neural development, removing the chemical side of things wouldn't restore the normal neural pattern any more than correcting a diabetics blood sugar would cure than of a ketoacidosis attack.
And don't accuse me of 'whining' when I have far more experience than you in this matter, doesn't the bible say to respect your elders in matters?

Anti-Depressants work by correcting the levels of chemicals in the brain and certain areas. Thus, reducing the effect of "depression" on the patient. Allowing the treated person to choose how they live without being mercenary to the condition. This could work, if a homosexual is a clinical gay, with homosexuals. Thus, freeing them up to make decisions on how they live.

Also, respect doesn't mean obey or say that elders are "Smarter" or "Wiser".


R'zul wrote:
Mister Sandman wrote:Willpower is stronger than any drug. Willpower is choice.


you have quite obviously not had any experience with drugs.

Ive had experience with drugs.


[KMA]Avenger wrote:
Mister Sandman wrote:Willpower is stronger than any drug. Willpower is choice.


i wonder how strong your willpower would be if you was a married man, and while out with some lads 1 night your dream woman steps up and made her intention of sleeping with you so clear that a blind man would see it from 10 miles away?!


Funny you say that. 1. Im not married. 2. A thing like that happened to me however, since I choose not to have sex before I'm married, I said no to her and left.


except anti depressants are only assigned when the patient feels their condition is problem, or becomes a health risk to himself or other's

Re: Homosexual Marraige

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:28 pm
by Mister Sandman
And thus, being a choice.

Thanks for the support.

Re: Homosexual Marraige

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:44 pm
by Thriller
Mister Sandman wrote:And thus, being a choice.

Thanks for the support.


yes prescribing anti psychotics is a choice.

Re: Homosexual Marraige

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:52 pm
by fireball37
Mister Sandman wrote:Anti-Depressants work by correcting the levels of chemicals in the brain and certain areas. Thus, reducing the effect of "depression" on the patient. Allowing the treated person to choose how they live without being mercenary to the condition. This could work, if a homosexual is a clinical gay, with homosexuals. Thus, freeing them up to make decisions on how they live.

You're not really paying attention... Even if you correct the chemical imbalances the neural patterns for homosexual tendencies would still be established, like the hormonal imbalance of acromegaly, after treatment the patients retain there physical characteristics, they just don't get worse. The same happens with depression, with all anti-depressants they 'stave off' depression but the underlying neural or hormonal causes return as soon as the drug either stops functioning, or the patient chooses to quit. Anti-depressants are only a stop gap measure to keep things stable while the patient is taught how to deal with the illness through more permanent means. And in the case of homosexuality, there are no 'other means' to deal with it.
Funny you say that. 1. Im not married. 2. A thing like that happened to me however, since I choose not to have sex before I'm married, I said no to her and left.

Really, that doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

Re: Homosexual Marraige

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:01 pm
by Mister Sandman
fireball37 wrote:You're not really paying attention... Even if you correct the chemical imbalances the neural patterns for homosexual tendencies would still be established, like the hormonal imbalance of acromegaly, after treatment the patients retain there physical characteristics, they just don't get worse. The same happens with depression, with all anti-depressants they 'stave off' depression but the underlying neural or hormonal causes return as soon as the drug either stops functioning, or the patient chooses to quit. Anti-depressants are only a stop gap measure to keep things stable while the patient is taught how to deal with the illness through more permanent means. And in the case of homosexuality, there are no 'other means' to deal with it.


Thus, get them while they are young and "fix" them before the get worse.
And there are permanent means to fix homosexuality, the removal of attraction to the same sex.




Funny you say that. 1. Im not married. 2. A thing like that happened to me however, since I choose not to have sex before I'm married, I said no to her and left.

Really, that doesn't surprise me in the slightest.


Oh really why?

Re: Homosexual Marraige

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:45 pm
by Demeisen
has anyone heard of the exact opposite of what you discuss?

ladies, gentlemen, i give you the gay bomb:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4174519.stm

Re: Homosexual Marraige

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:53 pm
by posh it out
would you allow two girls to marry eachother?

Re: Homosexual Marraige

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:41 pm
by Demeisen
thats the same thing in my view. i believe 'gays' in this discussion is taken to mean both male and female.

although if they are really hot lesbians im sure exceptions would be made :-D

Re: Homosexual Marraige

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:47 pm
by Mister Sandman
posh it out wrote:would you allow two girls to marry eachother?


No!

Re: Homosexual Marraige

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:37 am
by [KMA]Avenger
Mister Sandman wrote:
[KMA]Avenger wrote:
Mister Sandman wrote:Willpower is stronger than any drug. Willpower is choice.


i wonder how strong your willpower would be if you was a married man, and while out with some lads 1 night your dream woman steps up and made her intention of sleeping with you so clear that a blind man would see it from 10 miles away?!


Funny you say that. 1. Im not married. 2. A thing like that happened to me however, since I choose not to have sex before I'm married, I said no to her and left.


1, i kinda guess your not married.

2, that doesn't surprise me in the least and i had a sneaky feeling you would say something like that at the time i pressed the post button. you have an answer for everything don't you?

Re: Homosexual Marraige

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:41 am
by Mister Sandman
[KMA]Avenger wrote:
Mister Sandman wrote:
[KMA]Avenger wrote:
Mister Sandman wrote:Willpower is stronger than any drug. Willpower is choice.


i wonder how strong your willpower would be if you was a married man, and while out with some lads 1 night your dream woman steps up and made her intention of sleeping with you so clear that a blind man would see it from 10 miles away?!


Funny you say that. 1. Im not married. 2. A thing like that happened to me however, since I choose not to have sex before I'm married, I said no to her and left.


1, i kinda guess your not married.

2, that doesn't surprise me in the least and i had a sneaky feeling you would say something like that at the time i pressed the post button. you have an answer for everything don't you?


Judge me on account of me wanting to lead an moral life that glorifies the Lord..

I do admit there is temptation, however, temptation can be overcome with pure will of strength and with help from God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

Re: Homosexual Marraige

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:52 am
by Demeisen
what are you bibleing about?

sry i mean babbling :-D

it is not worth having any kind of debate with sandman.

even myself and mr kma conceded points to each other during our most heated conspiracy debates. sandman has no flexibility. therefore he does not debate. he states his 'facts' and justifies them using the bible.

it is all give with no take

do not grant him the platform to preach when he takes nothing from the experience in return.

that is all :-D