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Ah yea it wasn't TL massing randoms and leaving calling cards it was simply I. There was no command to do such an act it was not a group effort. It was simply my decision and when it was made I notified the alliance and basically said any repercussions would be on me and me alone. Anyone else that did it did it on their own accord probably due to something that happened to them in a similar matter that it happened to me. I honestly do not know since I was the only one posting what I had done.

We lately always have some sort of skirmish going on and we leave it to the parties involved. An Eye for an Eye policy. I knew there was something go on though I didn't know what nor did I care. It did not involve me. Until I was massed. W.t.f. The player that did the massing had nothing. Found out there were others. They had nothing. W.t.f. Found out what was basically going on. Pissed that I was dragged into something I had nothing to do with and ended up losing 24 billion planets. Went after the top 10 defenses minus DRA members of course. I was dragged into crap I had nothing to do with. So I did the same as what was done to me. Its not TL's hands that are dirty. It is only mine.

I told AG Thor all this as well.

Big ass domino affect.

Person A massed Person 1.
Person 1 masses Person A, B, C, and D.
Persons A, B, C, and D mass Person 1s Alliance, Alliance T.
Member of Alliance T (Person 2) takes it out on Server A.

This whole situation is Asinine.

Note, I did not read the thread... just the last few posts.

Ships ready.
Left TL island... sailing on the sea... no relations to anyone...
Lets the diplomacy beginn from ground

You have always other way than the way you chosed...

Sailing an am mad
Doesnt mean am stupid...
But whats worse... mad or stupid?


Answer yourselfs.

And here I thought this thread was calming down...

Ceasar, you are one heck of a pirate. But I do love you for it.

~Norbe~

do you sail in "red sea" too.. only real sailers do

Well, this had to happen now few ppl can talk again, probably can find peace, but I wouldnt do some things...

For me, yeah. Pirates time glad to see norbe posting here. It might help a bit, cuse i like him
Math, i thought as well, until few tls were massed on ascended and my cs as well. So... It was just calmed here, not on batlefield

Hello everyone involved!

I want to say, this fight, afterparty, harasment or however we call it, was realy good. At this point I have to anounce something. Please those who have to decide what to do next, read this. At this point private chats and other kinds of hiden diplomacy talks are useless.

1) OFIS players, whole issue in this topic was from my view very useles. Whole conflict started cuse tournament, some posts in torunament topic and few investications by admins. Since whole thema was related to torunament, nobody cared about what happened, how it was, whats the truth, and it all would be forgotten if this MASI didnt start.

So far, few players felt offended, thought they were called cheaters. Again, its a view of individuals how they understood it, what was written and what not, how it was ment and how not...

I never called anyone cheater since my last issue with such situation few years ago. My opinion on rules and how those are/arent provable is only my own experience, and my experience from past was not positive.

If someone feel the need to fight for his honor, its his decision. Asking someone to apologize for something what was written, but could be interpreted in many ways is also his decision. As its up to the player if he feels the need to apologize or not.

I was asked to apologize, talks between involved players failed on few trivialitys. I wont apologize.
But I respect your fights and reasons why you have done it. Also, I respect your view at whole issue. I ask you to respect my/otheres views. Whats an elephant for me could be hippo for Prsko for example. Both animals are big, feared, but very different.
Peace was not setled yet. Conflict continues. We dont like newerdnles wars, but we fight them hard and long if needed. As was proved many times in past, where we all fought as allyes against otheres.

2) From now, In a day, or 2 or 3 (who knows) my PPT ends. Also ascended tournament will end soon (probably). I left TL, dropped TAGs to avoid all pacts, diplomacy and other bariers for my further actions IF...

this IF is important. IF this ascended massing on both sides continues, if main server sniping continues and any kind of agression between all involved (I see only OFIS, TL and maybe another 2 players) continues, I will take it to mad lvl. Lvl where many players will be punished for these actions. Yes, this includes TAF players, maybe TL members as well, maybe otheres, maybe everyone who ever entered this discussion. Who knows. But all should have some rules so IF this continues, I will talk with proper players about some rules, how to avoid boring long wars

3) Each side, each involved lost something. Resources are the last to mention. Relations between alliances, players, friends and old allyes are threatend. This is not good and lead nowhere.

It will be very nice if this ends as a fight, as an afterparty where players proved they honour. As a conflict where noone is guilty and noone is victim. Noone is evil and everyone is hero.

All involved, share this msg with your friends, members. Lets try to move on. Else,... The Madseason beginns at monday next week, Sep. 9th

Note: remember, resources are the last to mention. We all can loose much more than that, mentioned above. What was done was done. What will be is the question of the day.

Edit: Mods please lock this till monday. So everyone can think about it. No need to heat in summer. Lets see what comes with new week. Reopen it on monday please.

c2 started all this because of his big mouth. When Green monster massed him and others with TL tags, then it was kinda too late to stop at early stages... If you ask me, you should have kicked c2 from alliance on day one, if you wanted to save your planets and dignity.

The real problem is or was that most people in TL dont know how to play this server and yet you provoke best 3 players on ascended server, from my point of view.

You guys actually ran into a huge wall and now you wont even admit how wrong you were? Ahh well... Hope you learned something out of it. If not, I dont wanna go there.

I wrote this to Ellia Martisen few min ago.

you people and your watching each others accounts. dirtbags. you're the real problem

dont know how to play on ascended :S , surely its just mass someone , wait for planets to respawn, rinse repeat lol

Urke wrote:c2 started all this because of his big mouth. When Green monster massed him and others with TL tags, then it was kinda too late to stop at early stages... If you ask me, you should have kicked c2 from alliance on day one, if you wanted to save your planets and dignity.

The real problem is or was that most people in TL dont know how to play this server and yet you provoke best 3 players on ascended server, from my point of view.

You guys actually ran into a huge wall and now you wont even admit how wrong you were? Ahh well... Hope you learned something out of it. If not, I dont wanna go there.

I wrote this to Ellia Martisen few min ago.

I dont know you. And dont agree with you. 3 best players... if you think so. I could name more players which are much more anying in ascended.

OFIS... any answer?

Is there any player that won 3 or more proper arena fight outside OFIS,c2 ?

Enlighten me with names of players that are better on ascended then OFIS trio, please. I beg you.

We are 3, so I cant decide for all of us. We are not like you who decide for TL and then you have alliance members whining about it.

I dont want to talk about tournament. I simply dont have time to nolife in torunament... and its no skill to win it. My opinion on toruanaments were written many times.

So if you wish to call yoursefl one of 3 best players... its your choice. I sinply dont agree with you.

And about this conflict, I sayd enough in post above. If you want to continue with such atitude, simply say it continues so I can move forward to mass...

caesar2 wrote:I dont want to talk about tournament. I simply dont have time to nolife in torunament... and its no skill to win it. My opinion on toruanaments were written many times.

So if you wish to call yoursefl one of 3 best players... its your choice. I sinply dont agree with you.

And about this conflict, I sayd enough in post above. If you want to continue with such atitude, simply say it continues so I can move forward to mass...

I will try write it again, so you might understand it, ok ? We are 1+1+1 = 3, ok ? So one(1) person cant say anything for all 3? You understand now ?

If you do not get or understand that, try using some of online translators from Eng to your language.

And names of people ?

I say, you better stick to money-spender main server. You fit there 99,9%