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yes but if it were to fire at hyperdrives, dart bays, or the gap in the center it would fall apart and Atlantis is larger then a hive ship...hiveships are the size of a Asgard oniell class vessel so if the asgard with there shields (not retrofited shields for human ships) but ion drive powered shields that run on seperate power went up against the wraith they would win even in a beliskener the asgard would take out the wraith so the goa'uld would have loses but they would win in the end as they have far more ships then the wraith

Wrong, wraith ships are MUCH bigger than oniel vessels, I think you'll find oniels are the same size as beliskners, which are the same size as hattaks, which is ROUGHLY the same size as a daedalus ship, it is also proven in camelot, when an oniel was next to a hattak and the oddosy.

You dont seem to get that the wraith ships are HUGE compared to anything else. Ok, maybe not as big as atlantis, but the closest thing to it. If not the same size, just compare the pic I posted, to the pic where daedalus was landed on atlantis.

There are some people here always stating the Wraith would win the Goa'uld but they do not always show us some facts or even a valid argument for their case.

I've thought alot about this, ever since this topic first came up on GateWorld were it was discussed by alot of people for a long time. And after all that reading I came to the conclusion that the Goa'uld would win.

I have made my case in this thread, someone bothered to argue with me on that?

Triple ]-[ wrote:Wrong, wraith ships are mUCH bigger than oniel vessels, I think you'll find oniels are the same size as beliskners, which are the same size as hataks, which is ROUGHLY the same size as a daedalus ship, it is also proven in camelot, when an oniel was next to a hattak and the oddosy.

That's BS. O'Neill class warships are ALOT (and I mean ALOT) bigger then Ha'taks and Beliskner class warships. You can see that for example in season 5 ep. 22 : Revelations

Kjarkur wrote:There are some people here always stating the Wraith would win the Goa'uld but they do not always show us some facts or even a valid argument for their case.

What are you on about... I just gave some..


Wraith firepower is more powerful that the goaulds, it is a hell of alot faster, like giant sized rail guns. And there are plenty more cannons.

They are over 10x the size of a goold hattak, I already posted that.

It took 500drones to take out a hive ship, and they can pierce armor, goold bullets CANNOT pierce the wraith armor, when they first showed the oddosy, 3hattaks were hitting another hattak, we saw what their bullets did and it took alot of them to destroy the hattak.

To put it simply, the only thing your saying the goolds would win by, is the fact that they have SHIELDS.

That does NOT mean that they would win, 1goold bullet would not even damage a wraith ship lmao.

Triple ]-[ wrote:

Kjarkur wrote:There are some people here always stating the Wraith would win the Goa'uld but they do not always show us some facts or even a valid argument for their case.

What are you on about... I just gave some..


Wraith firepower is more powerful that the goaulds, it is a hell of alot faster, like giant sized rail guns. And there are plenty more cannons.

They are over 10x the size of a goold hattak, I already posted that.

It took 500drones to take out a hive ship, and they can pierce armor, goold bullets CANNOT pierce the wraith armor, when they first showed the oddosy, 3hattaks were hitting another hattak, we saw what their bullets did and it took alot of them to destroy the hattak.

To put it simply, the only thing your saying the goolds would win by, is the fact that they have SHIELDS.

That does NOT mean that they would win, 1goold bullet would not even damage a wraith ship lmao.

it only really took about maybe 20 the others flew in and out adn just cut it to ribbons a real waste of ammo in my opinion. You also said bullets cannot pierce armor then why do the rail guns cause explosions on the ships hull in allies? (not in no man's land with the dart bays in allies)
Also that hatak had minimal shields and after the shields went down it took about ten hits


the onie'll class is about 6 times alrger then the prometheus


so the same size as a hive ship since the deadalus is a bit larger then that...so yeah asgard would pwn

Kjarkur wrote:

Triple ]-[ wrote:Wrong, wraith ships are mUCH bigger than oniel vessels, I think you'll find oniels are the same size as beliskners, which are the same size as hataks, which is ROUGHLY the same size as a daedalus ship, it is also proven in camelot, when an oniel was next to a hattak and the oddosy.

That's BS. O'Neill class warships are ALOT (and I mean ALOT) bigger then Ha'taks and Beliskner class warships. You can see that for example in season 5 ep. 22 : Revelations

Are you joking? lol. I seen that ep pletny of times, theres nothing to suggest they are any bigger, apart from your word.

However, these 2pics suggest that I am right, and you are wrong.





You complained about no proof? Theres proof, maybe you want to go check yours.

EDIT: yes, prommie is tiny, a new page will start in a min so just put up with the forums going long.

thjey already said it was a mistake when they made the ship that small it was to fit it into the battle

I geuss they amde the hattaks smaller aswell then? since beliskner and oniel classess have always been the same sizes, and so have beliskner classess and hattaks.

I know they made it a bit smaller, but Id also like to note that daedalus class is MUCH bigger than the prommie, 2, maybe 3times the sizes of it.

no the prommie was smaller then a hatak as seen in a few eps the deady is the same size the oniell trumps teh prommie and as such is larger then hataks and the deady meaning it is on par with the hiveships also asgard can probably get past the jamming codes and they have high powered energy weapons...so Asgard would pwn your arguement is flawed go play in traffic

p.s. it is a general consensus on the Gateworld forum that the size of the oniell in Camelot is a flaw which is corrected later on in that very ep




it is now the size of a ori ship see the slight change in the ep the creators make mistakes until then the ship was massive

Ørici wrote:no the prommie was smaller then a hatak as seen in a few eps the deady is the same size the oniell trumps teh prommie and as such is larger then hataks and the deady meaning it is on par with the hiveships also asgard can probably get past the jamming codes and they have high powered energy weapons...so Asgard would pwn your arguement is flawed go play in traffic

p.s. it is a general consensus on the Gateworld forum that the size of the oniell in Camelot is a flaw which is corrected later on in that very ep




it is now the size of a ori ship see the slight change in the ep the creators make mistakes until then the ship was massive

Thats just the camera veiw, the asgard shp is manuvering WAY closer, in the actual ep, it flies round and once again looks much smaller than them.

And the ori ship is no where near as big as a hive anyway, jsut remember that.. if by some odd chance you are right, asgard = ori ships, yes, but NOT hiveships... you just dont seem to realize how big they are.

yeah but an asgard ship has super shields and weapons it would easily take out a hive ship just as an ori ship would

ill try and find the screen that shows deady v wraith

AND

there is NO confusion as it is a schematic.

HAVE A LOOK

that little green spec ladies and gentlemen is the deadalus.

-Ailm

Ørici wrote:yeah but an asgard ship has super shields and weapons it would easily take out a hive ship just as an ori ship would

jsut as the asgard ship took out the ori?

Asgard u can argue about, i think they would pwn a hive, the ORI can pwn everything, even asgard with ease, but a hive would kill a hattak.

but Ori pwn asgard

Ori = Ancient

which means

ancient pwns asgard

and wriath pwn ancient

so wriath pwn asgard? =/



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OMG YOU INBLOCKED FOR A SPLIT SECOND

and your right wraith > goa'uld any day of the week....

-Ailm