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no it's not, because then it would be the same as before just with everyone being more powerful.. the stats are already getting ridiculous as it is.

insanity5723 wrote:Okay.. for those of you saying it is easy to ascend over and over it is NOT easy.. there is a minimum UU cost as well as a HUGE naq cost (I'm afraid specifics will get this post deleted.) It is NOT easy to ascend over and over again so stop saying it is if you haven't done it. Anyway. I actually like the idea of an addon tech thing but it should not give bonuses anywhere near as powerful as the ascension bonus. The max on this should be 50%-60% TOTAL bonus to stats.

by my proposal this would lead to 50% calculated total power of account (after customization )

thunder wrote:and its only logical and fair that acended acounts can get them aswell.

no because their advantage is allready to high for them ( +120% total calculated power on account )

so ascended +120% (plus ascended blessing) vs 50% customized main accounts


what do u want more 120% after 6 ascensions isn't enough?

i think G & R should be increased by 10x and so the amount required to ascend but give out glory & Rep to your officers.

I dont think it should go towards stats , esp ascension takes alot of miners and naq and alot of time for only a 5%-25% increase in stats.

maybe only a lil increase but not significant

Camelot wrote:i think G & R should be increased by 10x and so the amount required to ascend but give out glory & Rep to your officers.

I dont think it should go towards stats , esp ascension takes alot of miners and naq and alot of time for only a 5%-25% increase in stats.

maybe only a lil increase but not significant

ascension don't take lifers, and miners u can always untrain and send them to someone to watch on them!

ok so what your saying is that everyone who has only acended from 1-4 times will be at a disadvantage, because your tech would give a bugger bounus then they recived not to mention how much cheaper that is. now that sounds grosly unfair to me.

basicaly you would be punished for acending. why dont you acend anyway bahumat?

why you continue to give him such a hard time?

He suggests something that will bring people to have half the power an ascended player has, thats all........

it would take alot of time and effort to even get that.

He does not want to ascend for his own reasons.

I feel like im watching the republicans and democrats give a debate...they are not debates its just both sides saying the same thing over and over and over never hearing the other side just going on like a broken record.

After the pages and pages of you guys going back and forth I have heard both sides and understand both postions give it a rest!!!!

you know what i realised. he wants customization.

he really should ascend >.<

those of you who have, know what i mean, and those of you who do. will see.

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

Psi Kiya Trist wrote:you know what i realised. he wants customization.

he really should ascend >.<

those of you who have, know what i mean, and those of you who do. will see.

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

AScnesion is for cxustomizing ascnesion server, he wants customation for main accounts.

thunder wrote:ok so what your saying is that everyone who has only acended from 1-4 times will be at a disadvantage, because your tech would give a bugger bounus then they recived not to mention how much cheaper that is. now that sounds grosly unfair to me.

basicaly you would be punished for acending. why dont you acend anyway bahumat?

i think it is pointless to expalin anything to u!


do i need to repeat in every 3rd post what i proposed if u didn't understand by now try reading topic from begining

5% per level of upgrading

1000g&R points 1st level - abillity to get extra 5%

gathering onother 1000G&R points - 2nd level getting onother extra 5% etc etc

those 5% wuould be bought via aditional tech button in tech page (costs starting with 20 bilion raisinig up by 10 i guess)

other facts i can't post because they would ban me for speaking about ASCENSION ( grrr scary (oops i again said A word)), but u are free to register on AK forum we have there all calculated costs, so if u seek for facts on how cheap it is come on AK forum

and psi i once look at u like someone who has brains and is smart!
and now i'm glad that u had losses in "Plague"

Bahamut wrote:

thunder wrote:ok so what your saying is that everyone who has only acended from 1-4 times will be at a disadvantage, because your tech would give a bugger bounus then they recived not to mention how much cheaper that is. now that sounds grosly unfair to me.

basicaly you would be punished for acending. why dont you acend anyway bahumat?

i think it is pointless to expalin anything to u!


do i need to repeat in every 3rd post what i proposed if u didn't understand by now try reading topic from begining

5% per level of upgrading

1000g&R points 1st level - abillity to get extra 5%

gathering onother 1000G&R points - 2nd level getting onother extra 5% etc etc

those 5% wuould be bought via aditional tech button in tech page (costs starting with 20 bilion raisinig up by 10 i guess)

other facts i can't post because they would ban me for speaking about ASCENSION ( grrr scary (oops i again said A word)), but u are free to register on AK forum we have there all calculated costs, so if u seek for facts on how cheap it is come on AK forum

and psi i once look at u like someone who has brains and is smart!
and now i'm glad that u had losses in "Plague"

oh, ok. thank you for telling me that you're stupid.

your whole idea is for customisation. you can't deny this.

you also say that these are going to be CHEAPER than ascension for less bonuses.

IF this was ever going to be implemented. which i doubt it is. it would have a max of 20% total stat boost, and would increment 1% at a time and take 1,000X UU/miners and 1000 G&R an upgrade.

where x is equal to the number of Unit production upgrades you've done.

increasing cost by 25% for each upgrade.
and ascension accounts are also eligable for this upgrade.

if you think thats not fair. well guess what, life isn't fair.

-.-Psi Kiya Trist-.-

Psi, that would make everything stay the same if it was available to both ascended and unascended accounts, just on a larger scale. I think bahamut's idea has merit. At first i was vehemontly against it, but now I kind of agree with it, as long as the bonuses are not too great. There obviously has to be some kind of penalty besides just losing G*R but a multiplier based on UP (especially one of that caliber) would just make it cheaper to ascend for the more bonuses. Perhaps a steep naq cost to pay for the researching of the technology or UU (someones gotta do the research), but a UP multiplier doesn't really make sense in this case.

I read the first few pages and decided I wasn't about to read the last 15.

I have 2K G&R points....took me quite awhile to achieve them really. But unfortunately, I do not have either the time nor the inclination to play the ascended server.

But that is not my point. My point is that when you ascend, you leave the main plain. The main account should not be receiving bonuses just for ascending...of any sort.

Now lets look at the phrase "G&R Points"....Glory & Reputation Points dictate, in a numerical form, how good a player (or military leader) you are. If I'm not mistaken, weren't military leaders with lots of Glory and a good Reputation more likely to have more troops? And to go further, more troops that were loyal?

So my proposal is simple....cut the ascension bonus on main either out altogether or in half, and allow those who aren't ascending to use their Glory and Reputation for UP.

Psi Kiya Trist wrote:oh, ok. thank you for telling me that i am stupid.

1) your whole idea is for customisation. you can't deny this.

2) you also say that these are going to be CHEAPER than ascension for less bonuses.

3) IF this was ever going to be implemented. which i doubt it is. it would have a max of 20% total stat boost, and would increment 1% at a time and take 1,000X UU/miners and 1000 G&R an upgrade.

where x is equal to the number of Unit production upgrades you've done.

4) increasing cost by 25% for each upgrade.
and ascension accounts are also eligable for this upgrade.

5) if you think thats not fair. well guess what, life isn't fair.

-.-Psi Kiya Trist-.-

1) well yes i am glad u understand that ( i think i wrote that word 50 times in this topic)

2) u just keep suprising me, ofcourse it should be cheaper for less bonuses

3) not even shell acount don't loose that much

4) why 25%, proposal is 5% per level of customization ascended get +20% per ascension so why should we have same criteria as ascended shell accounts?

5) i can bet u felt that LMAO

Bahamut wrote:3) not even shell acount don't loose that much

4) why 25%, proposal is 5% per level of customization ascended get +20% per ascension so why should we have same criteria as ascended shell accounts?

5) i can bet u felt that LMAO

3) shell accounts lose as much as you invest into your account's UP before you re-/ascend.

4) 25% is half of what the ascendeds cost increases for ascending. now, i realise this may be much for only 1% increase. so perhaps a 10% cost increase instead.

5) many times in many ways.

~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

Psi Kiya Trist wrote:3) shell accounts lose as much as you invest into your account's UP before you re-/ascend.
~_+Psi Kiya Trist+_~

yes but we are speaking about minimum requirement for ascending and those are low, plus all those that are on path for full ascension fullfil those min requirments, so comparing to that, 50 bil for first level of customization that will get +5% on account power is rightfull