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~Ailm~ wrote:

Ørici wrote:asgard would beat the wraith. they have 10 years of advancement on the ancients but not only that they can't raelly die as thor has shown us and there ships are very powerful they may only have a few but if they took 6 of them and systematically "cleansed" the pegasus galaxy the wraith would'nt have a snowballs chance in hell

10K years and they have barley scratched the surface on ancient knowledge, acording to their own testomony.

fact is people wraith > goa'uld....

if they goa'uld could defeat the ancients then it might be a different story but they cant....

so your argument is flawed...

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besides with the 60 hive thing...any one with an ounce of common sense would understand that they didnt defeat the ancients with 60 hives.......

-Ailm

*Cough*repli spiders<P90 and repli spiders>zats *cough*

Apophis mothership still isnt anywhere near the size of a Hive ship.

IMHO.. apophis ship > wraith hive

But theres only 1 of them dont forget that

As seen in 3x1 of atlantis, the wriath directed their fire on the orion because it was a dominent ship, Im guessing they would simply ignore the tiny hattaks and fire on apophis ship.

Must admit it though, after seeing what apophios ship did to heruers, It should be able to make pretty big holes in a wraith hive.

Its only weekness is that its so big its an easy target, and once the shields are down its nowhere near as armored as a wraith hive.

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Think about it, the wraith MIGHT of had shields, but since the drones cut through them anyway, they didnt bother using them and just made better armor, now they still have them on their ships.. they just have no idea how to use them

The prob for wraith is they should have shields, but as a wraith said in allies, they forgot how to use it

hmm Ailm your mighty wraith seem to be lacking in the memory department

Queen-"Somene get to the dart bay we are under attack"

Wraith-"But my dear exalted one the ships is so large we forgot where they are!"

Queen-"What about cruisers"

Wraith-"AH DAMN, that what we left on the planet"

Ørici wrote:hmm Ailm your mighty wraith seem to be lacking in the memory department

Queen-"Somene get to the dart bay we are under attack"

Wraith-"But my dear exalted one the ships is so large we forgot where they are!"

Queen-"What about cruisers"

Wraith-"AH DAMN, that what we left on the planet"

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this just shows the stupidity of those who fight for the goa'uld

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apophis i want quotes, im sure i would have noticed soemthing as trivial as forgetting, as it would have made the producers looked stupid and i would have been disgusted

quotes quotes!!!!

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all of you have flawed logic, and apophis with the p90 thing....they evolved into HFR immune to p90's, not only that but that is a flawed perspective, as the goa'uld still use energy weapons.....

the ancients used energy weapons AND projectile weapons, so there is no way out of that...

and with this invisability crap, the ancients have cloaking technology =/

-Ailm

Ancients pwn. I will never buy that the Wraith defeated them. Ever. They sunk their city and went home because they... felt like it. Yeah.

Disregard this

__Apophis___ wrote:The prob for wraith is they should have shields, but as a wraith said in allies, they forgot how to use it

lol i remember that. The Wraith are all senile.

i want quotes so i can go back and watch that cuse i dont remeber it

-Ailm

~Ailm~ wrote:i want quotes so i can go back and watch that cuse i dont remeber it

-Ailm

Episode Allies for wraith memory...
And my argue with spiders is true, example when SG-1 was in Apophis ship in 5x01, or in Asgard infested ship (cant remember which episode)

but if memmory serves replicators still won..................

thus point invalid, inf act your point supports mine =D

it was ONLY due to the ancient super weapon that replicators were stopped...(stopped not destroyed).

-Ailm

so would that mean the ancients won that battle after all the ancients created the replicators.....

bump

Sun God Ra wrote:Ok, so i was thinking...goauld have shields...wriath dont. And goauld have energy weapons. something the tauri dont. so couldnt a goauld hatak like pwn a wraith hive ship?

cause the tauri cant

You forgot to mention that Goa'uld are all-powerful, all-knowing Gods. They could destroy every Hive Ship in the multiverse without even a single Hatak!

Hatak energy weps.. well tbh they arent much more effective than rail guns, both suck.

If I had to go with 1, id put my money on the wraith. The obvious, they probaably have the same amount of ships overall, I could see the goauld having more, but taking in the fact that the hive ships are so big, they eaisly outnumber the goold mass-wise.

A hatak IMO is completly useless against a hive, its bullets are too small, its shields are too weak to last for long against another hattak, and the wraith ships easily have more firepower than a hattak. Plus their rate of fire is IMO nearly as fast as the rail guns, when it comes to larger targets.

1hive > 1hatak.

If it were mroe of 1, say 5hattaks v 1 wraith hive, I think that the wraith wud destroy 1 or 2 but the goold would win, if it were 3 or more wraith hives agenst 1hatak.. well its just a timer til the hatak gets killed, probly less than a min.

After seeing apohpis ship, I have to say that I wouldnt wana be in a hive wen that thing comes looking. Granted it will takea hell alot of blasts because of the immense size of a hive, but the first dozen should bring the weapons offline.

Anubis ship v hive.. well tbh thats no contest. ANubis ship and the ancient ships use different types of weapons, the drones are overal ineffective against hives, due to their size but anubis's laser can simply cut the hive to pieces in a few seconds. Just like the satelite did.

Inferno wrote:the drones are overal ineffective against hives, due to their size

did you see the season 3 (sga) opening episode?

you dont attack a hive with 1 drone, you hit it with several hundered



-Goodie

Goauld would win & that's all.
Goauld have cloaking tech and also they outnumber Wraith and need 3 zat hits to kill them?