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Re: changes in ascension/main going to production
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:00 am
by MackTheKnife
Don't like ascension, then quit the game altogether or turn into a daimon.
Re: changes in ascension/main going to production
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:01 am
by Finarfin
~Phoenix~ wrote:No wonder, you probably got like 10x your UP from this. Not surprised you're all for it. Your the example of teh kind of person because of which admin doesnt want to raise the min APP cap, beacuse you have done small rubbish ascensions and you would profit loads.
Never asked him too raise it, and wouldn't have ever expected to get any APP.
I decided that crippling myself in one game to do well in another was worthless because no matter how much I crippled myself in main for a better ascension, I wasn't going to catch up anyway. Maybe if the update was in earlier, I would have put in bigger ascensions. As it was, what was the point?
Re: changes in ascension/main going to production
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:06 am
by ~Phoenix~
Finarfin wrote:~Phoenix~ wrote:No wonder, you probably got like 10x your UP from this. Not surprised you're all for it. Your the example of teh kind of person because of which admin doesnt want to raise the min APP cap, beacuse you have done small rubbish ascensions and you would profit loads.
Never asked him too raise it, and wouldn't have ever expected to get any APP.
I decided that crippling myself in one game to do well in another was worthless because no matter how much I crippled myself in main for a better ascension, I wasn't going to catch up anyway. Maybe if the update was in earlier, I would have put in bigger ascensions. As it was, what was the point?
I didn't say you were doing anything on purpose, teh reason is true though that its accounts like yours that makes admin not want to raise the APP amount.
Re: changes in ascension/main going to production
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:01 am
by samson1111
I got screwed big time by this update and I'm not complaining!. The rules in a game has been changed, I've to addapt myself or I'll start losing ranks.
I havent lost so many DMUs... resources as the top players, but I'll tell you y:
I dont have a good main account (nowdays only 30m army size), but I have done several smaller, medium ascencions.... and my last ascencion, I ascended with everything I had except UUs. It was more than a year ago... at that time, it was quite a good ascencion.
-Now I got only 100k APP ( then min APP)
- I played ascended since I ascended... i was arround rank 100(stats), 130 (influence)... now every new player can pass me wiht 1 ascencion in power ups... catch me in few months easily
- I've wasted 4 tril naq on buying DMU a month ago, to have a bit better rank
- AM I COMPLAINING? AM I THINKING OF LEAVING?
NO
I've ascended with everything I had except UUs and I'll try to adapt again. This has ruined my main account... improoved my ascended account.
Every1, who feels he was screwed can ascend again and he can confirm his good rank in ascencion.
Ascencion was a choice, no1 was forced to ascend... if any1 doenst like ascended, we have a new option daemon
Every1 has to agree, that the changed had to come... ascended was a dieing server... ppl where starting to stop playing ascended... this had to be done... I got screwed, but if this help to raise the activity on ascended, I welcome this change
Re: changes in ascension/main going to production
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:04 am
by ~Phoenix~
Noone sais it didnt need a change we were all pushing for that. But there was absolutly no point in giving people so much lifeforce. Effectivly the game is now based on who got the most lifeforce foremost.
And... *cough*.. UU caps.. would lose tons of uu... so cant ascend...
Re: changes in ascension/main going to production
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:19 am
by samson1111
*cough* no1 forces you to ascend, but then dont be suprosed if ppl will start to catch you.
I was thinking on asceding or not ascending for a week... and ascencion won... but as I said, I'm only a little guy with 30m army size.
Re: changes in ascension/main going to production
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:21 am
by TipsY
Ascended Updates wrote:4) If you wish to DESCEND YOURSELF - ie 'quit ascension' .. you can. You will become a 'Daimon' - basicly a fallen divinity...This is the only race open to fallen ascendeds who chose their own demise...The bonuses are: whatever your ascended account was giving to your main account at the time of banishing yourself, MINUS the ascended blessing (so no unique tech to this race.) A Daimon DOES NOT GAIN GLORY and, in battle and covert, TAKES DOUBLE CASULAITIES -- basicly, they are living fast and dying fast 
. From this race, you can choose a fully mortal race, or keep this race. No other options.
Descend Page wrote: Descending yourself will not only banish you from this realm, but will make you a Daimon. A Daimon is a race unto itself, between those on the human plane, and those ascended. You will exist only in the mortal plane of existence, using your Ascended weaponry, but without the ascended blessing, and only half of the normal bonuses or strengths associated with being allied to a truly Ascended God.
It is a one-way process...you can NOT come back, without re-ascending.
In the mortal realm, you can also revert to complete mortality if you wish...
Okay so I compared Ascended Game Updates Page with the Descend Page... And the GREEN text is a match. BUT, there are some differences...- CYAN text = Same bonuses or half of them?
- PURPLE text = Double casualties? YES or NO?
Neither of those mention a double edge sword and Admin said he will go for one if it will be good... So let's come up with a good double edge sword for Daimons!!!
Re: changes in ascension/main going to production
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:31 am
by Gandalf the White
My bad, sorry, post edited/deleted, not going to complain after all..
Re: changes in ascension/main going to production
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:34 am
by Clarkey
I thought your cache starts filling up when your LF is at max, not the reserves?
Re: changes in ascension/main going to production
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:37 am
by ~Phoenix~
samson1111 wrote:*cough* no1 forces you to ascend, but then dont be suprosed if ppl will start to catch you.
I was thinking on asceding or not ascending for a week... and ascencion won... but as I said, I'm only a little guy with 30m army size.
So 2years ago I was supposed to know id get screwed? Soryr but this you dont have to ascend crap is utter crap. You cant be good on main without ascending ask any top player. You need the better wepaons or ull have 1/4 ur army in troops and stuff and never keep up, not to mention 30% less income. So dont go saying things if you dont know what you're talking about.
Re: changes in ascension/main going to production
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:38 am
by Gandalf the White
No cache doesn't start filling up when you have max LF, but when you convert dmu to LF it converts straight to cache, i was just a little annoyed about having to fill reserves at 'channeling' rate but it doesn't really matter unless someone decides to pick on you.
Re: changes in ascension/main going to production
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:41 am
by ~Phoenix~
Yes, cache DOES start filling up when you have max LF.
Re: changes in ascension/main going to production
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:42 am
by Clarkey
~Phoenix~ wrote:Yes, cache DOES start filling up when you have max LF.
I thought so, cause i was sure I had cache this morning when it was empty last night.
Re: changes in ascension/main going to production
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:54 am
by Jack_Q_Neill
Forum wrote:you are welcome. i did/do listen. and when expressed like this, it makes it much easier to do so...again. thank you
(see the new poll)
thank you too
poll going well so far
Re: changes in ascension/main going to production
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 3:05 am
by TipsY
TipsY wrote:Ascended Updates wrote:4) If you wish to DESCEND YOURSELF - ie 'quit ascension' .. you can. You will become a 'Daimon' - basicly a fallen divinity...This is the only race open to fallen ascendeds who chose their own demise...The bonuses are: whatever your ascended account was giving to your main account at the time of banishing yourself, MINUS the ascended blessing (so no unique tech to this race.) A Daimon DOES NOT GAIN GLORY and, in battle and covert, TAKES DOUBLE CASULAITIES -- basicly, they are living fast and dying fast . From this race, you can choose a fully mortal race, or keep this race. No other options.
Descend Page wrote: Descending yourself will not only banish you from this realm, but will make you a Daimon. A Daimon is a race unto itself, between those on the human plane, and those ascended. You will exist only in the mortal plane of existence, using your Ascended weaponry, but without the ascended blessing, and only half of the normal bonuses or strengths associated with being allied to a truly Ascended God.
It is a one-way process...you can NOT come back, without re-ascending.
In the mortal realm, you can also revert to complete mortality if you wish...
Okay so I compared Ascended Game Updates Page with the Descend Page... And the GREEN text is a match. BUT, there are some differences...- CYAN text = Same bonuses or half of them?
- PURPLE text = Double casualties? YES or NO?
Neither of those mention a double edge sword and Admin said he will go for one if it will be good... So let's come up with a good double edge sword for Daimons!!!
