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Re: Zocko - Breaking game rules #3 and 4
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:16 am
by Almost38
Borek wrote:Almost38 wrote:alright m8 thank imm gunna log in and have my freind bank for me everyturn until the 3 hour sessio is up and we will keep doing this over so i can never be attacked
you'd have to have a friend 1st...
what are you saying i dont have freinds cause all i do is sit on my ass on play sgw all day no i think your thinking of yourself;)
Re: Zocko - Breaking game rules #3 and 4
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:25 am
by mikgamer1
I fail to see where we said Loci anywhere in this topic was a cheater unless that is Zocko's wife? If not I (the one and only person who reported Zocko for cheating) have never even mentioned Loci in any of my posts as far as I know.
Re: Zocko - Breaking game rules #3 and 4
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:31 am
by MEZZANINE
Quoting myself from the 1-v-1 thread
This must be what Bruce Lee called 'The art of fighting, with out fighting'

I've known Zocko and Loki for several months in game and they are not cheats, this is lamest way of avoiding a fight I have ever seen.
Re: Zocko - Breaking game rules #3 and 4
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:53 pm
by Kikaz
Firstly I didnt report him so get your heads out of your asses, point is he's breaking two if not more of the game rules.
Secondly, I got pwned by him?
No I was descended by urogard, all Zocko has done is get massed and lose 400k AC units farming me with AC trained.
Get your facts straight.
His Defense is now 450 bill and his mothership completly sucks and he's getting alot more help then all of you seem to think, just because im not crying about doesnt mean he's the only one in my logs...
Even against my puny 6 bill Defense...
Also Im not the one who reported him or claimed he cheated first, his wife did, in a PM to Mike which was copied here and if Admin needs to he could easily check Mikes PM box in Quantum.
Re: Zocko - Breaking game rules #3 and 4
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:29 am
by ReCoM
Ok.
1 account 2 persons in the same family.
whats the problem ? I think its allot more better than 2 accounts for 2 person in the same family. I dont know but thats what I think it is.
Also I dont see any violation so far I can tell not cheating or abusing anything in hes own gain as hes only sharing hes 1 account with hes wife.
Re: Zocko - Breaking game rules #3 and 4
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:39 am
by Kikaz
His wife is playing when he is not able to, thus that account could litterally be online 24/7... Gaining unfair advantages over everyone else. Admin's current rules leave no loop holes in what is allowed and what is not allowed and are clearly stated.
If they have been changed he needs to state so or action needs to be taken.
Rules
1) Only one account per person, per game server.
Rule #1 Broken.
3) No sharing or giving out your account details to others.
Rule #3 Broken
3) No sharing or giving out your account details to others.
Rule #4 Broken
Now...
9) Any breaking of the rules can result in punishment, suspension, banning, account deletion, or banning of your entire ISP.
Rule #9 needs to be enforced...
Re: Zocko - Breaking game rules #3 and 4
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:43 am
by Borek
Kikaz wrote:His wife is playing when he is not able to, thus that account could litterally be online 24/7... Gaining unfair advantages over everyone else. Admin's current rules leave no loop holes in what is allowed and what is not allowed and are clearly stated.
If they have been changed he needs to state so or action needs to be taken.
Rules
1) Only one account per person, per game server.
Rule #1 Broken.
3) No sharing or giving out your account details to others.
Rule #3 Broken
3) No sharing or giving out your account details to others.
Rule #4 Broken
Now...
9) Any breaking of the rules can result in punishment, suspension, banning, account deletion, or banning of your entire ISP.
Rule #9 needs to be enforced...
Feel free to delete your Quantum account then kikaz, because you knowingly used floops gambling app last wave as did most of your alliance.
Re: Zocko - Breaking game rules #3 and 4
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:44 am
by Kikaz
Wrong, ask floop.. It was never on my computer and I highly doubt anyone in my alliance had it either since if I recall right floop was pissed off because he accidently deleted it less then 12 hours after it was finished...
Re: Zocko - Breaking game rules #3 and 4
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:56 am
by Borek
Kikaz wrote:Wrong, ask floop.. It was never on my computer and I highly doubt anyone in my alliance had it either since if I recall right floop was pissed off because he accidently deleted it less then 12 hours after it was finished...
He didn't accidently delete it after 12 hrs, he was using it until he stopped playing, as you guys were. All of owned would have had to go to hospital for surgery on their RSI ravaged wrists if they had gambled legitimately that wave.
Re: Zocko - Breaking game rules #3 and 4
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:05 am
by Kikaz
I did maybe 100 gambles per day before I got bored and logged off...
Divide your NAQ by 5, bet on 3 to 4 and bank... win and repeat I still do it this wave... 5 chances to win the total amount of NAQ you have out... When you win enough so that you can do double what a full bank is for you when dividing it by 5 you simpily go for double, triple, and quadruple wins...
Floop did delete his bot, wether he remade it or not I do not know...
Floop quit Quantum before that wave even ended to begin making his own first person shooter and I havent talked with him very much since.. and that was a two week wave...
As much as I'd love to sit here and argue over such false accusations, I have better things to do...
I can see now why you went from someone I considdered a friend to using every possible chance to flame me since around that time, if you truly believe I was using a bot...
Re: Zocko - Breaking game rules #3 and 4
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:21 am
by Borek
It's my belief that all the active members of GOO during that mini-wave used the bot, it's part of the reason i quit in disgust. Yes, the gambling itself was lame, but seeing the people i had allied with for previous waves start cheating was the final straw.
Add in the fact that you seem to have changed a lot over the last 6 months. When we 1st allied in quantum you loved wars, but you weren't an arrogant ass about fighting, that's changed, and for the worse.
The Kikaz i used to be allied with never would have backed down from Zocko's 1 on 1, he wouldn't have cared about 1 ascended hit (since you claim you don't play ascended and everyone farms you anyway) in the 1st place. I would say you wouldn't have randomly massed most of quantum, but that isn't true, you would have done it back then, you just wouldn't have been such an ass to the people who fought back, you would have been happy you had found someone with the balls to fight in an otherwise dull wave.
I mean is this really what has become of you? Reduced to accusations of cheating and running away from a fight, talking so much and fighting so little? At some stage you forgot the game/s is/are supposed to be fun.
Re: Zocko - Breaking game rules #3 and 4
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:24 am
by papa~smurf
Kikaz wrote:His wife is playing when he is not able to, thus that account could litterally be online 24/7...
so grow up and get married lol
Re: Zocko - Breaking game rules #3 and 4
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:35 am
by Kikaz
I still do love wars...
And I never did back down from it I always was going to mass him untill this happened, I simpily said since he had hired help in ascended he had already declined his own rules to the war...
_willie_ began massing my ascended and urogard begins trying to descend me (later suceeded).
This happened about 12 hours AFTER zocko requested a 1v1 and since I had just started a 4 day PPT I gave him time to surrender before his defense was massed. Then I see that the two players who zocko had hired to hit me, have both hit my officer and urogard has descended him.
This is when I demanded 500 bill NAQ to pay for my officers descension since he had requested a 1v1 then has mercenaries hit both my officer and I in ascended...
Then my power goes out and 15 hours later comes back on, Im descended.
And If he had had the balls to hit me back in Quantum instead of going straight to my ascended account,
and doing an attack on my life force which im sure there would have been more if my officer and I hadnt immediatly massed him... and also sending a message in main trying to intimidate me...,
I would have been very pleased...
3 days after Mikgamer and I massed him the war topic appears...
Im not running from any fight if admin says that this is legal I will mass and I will fight him and yes as always at the destruction of my account if it has to be...
And I am having great fun still but even then the Kikaz you knew and had peace with greatly despised anyone who had to take fights cross server when they were not strong enough to fight back.
You should remember it as one of the five laws of GOO in our first wave...
EDIT:
Also I started playing ascended again the day I made my main alliance in hopes of not being completly useless to my alliance in the event that the alliance did go to war...
Kikaz 54186 Ancient 160,408,607,601 6198 14 days ago member - leader
Re: Zocko - Breaking game rules #3 and 4
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:10 am
by Borek
You know what i find most amusing about this whole issue? You honestly seem to think Zocko is in the wrong for hitting you back, after all you have massed him (for no reason to begin with as you freely admitted) at least 5 times and Mike is constantly farming him from what i have been told, all in quantum. You KNOW he's no threat in quantum to you, hell, you only warred the entire server after you realised there wasn't anyone except Hippy that had a chance and now your alliances have a NAP.
Now what would you do if some arrogant ass in quantum randomly picked you out for a massing, then massed you repeatedly and arranged for you to be farmed, all the time you KNEW that this person was so much more powerful that even fully equipping your entire army as attackers wasn't enough to damage them?
Then for just 1 ascended attack this same guy calls in his alliance to mass him. After all that Zocko then gets some help (after you had your alliance help you) and descends you and a helper and still has the composure to ask for a 1 on 1, which you repeatedly refuse to accept whilst threatening dire consequences and trying to extort 500 bill for Mike who only got descended because he helped you in a fight you were forcing Zocko into.
If you don't see the problem then i won't waste my time trying to explain it any further.
Re: Zocko - Breaking game rules #3 and 4
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:14 am
by Almost38
Borek wrote:It's my belief that all the active members of GOO during that mini-wave used the bot, it's part of the reason i quit in disgust. Yes, the gambling itself was lame, but seeing the people i had allied with for previous waves start cheating was the final straw.
Add in the fact that you seem to have changed a lot over the last 6 months. When we 1st allied in quantum you loved wars, but you weren't an arrogant ass about fighting, that's changed, and for the worse.
The Kikaz i used to be allied with never would have backed down from Zocko's 1 on 1, he wouldn't have cared about 1 ascended hit (since you claim you don't play ascended and everyone farms you anyway) in the 1st place. I would say you wouldn't have randomly massed most of quantum, but that isn't true, you would have done it back then, you just wouldn't have been such an ass to the people who fought back, you would have been happy you had found someone with the balls to fight in an otherwise dull wave.
I mean is this really what has become of you? Reduced to accusations of cheating and running away from a fight, talking so much and fighting so little? At some stage you forgot the game/s is/are supposed to be fun.
i was in owned and it didnt use