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No, no I can't. Because even though it appears to be coming, the end isn't here yet and I will do everything I can to postpone it, through helping to rebuild a military that has been bent out of shape by policies over the last decade and a half, and other civil service.
I frustrated with watching my country seeming to fall apart on so many levels. There are a lot of good people in it, I know that because I've met them. But they keep being overshadowed by the extremists, who want us to go either left or right so far that we tumble off the precipe which all nations balance on.

I know I won't be able to change everything by myself. I might not change anything at all, a complete failure. But the day I finally turn my back on the country I know and love is the day I can't look at myself in the mirror without shame.

The more you try to postpone it the faster it will come. Kinda like, the more you try to lose weight the more you crave fastfood...especially chocolate, *drools*...

...Right, back to the fall of nations.

If your not going to get off the car, the brace yourself as best you can, and think of ways to help the other passengers after the crash. After all, your seeing things in slow motion, while they think the car is going 200 mph.

The crash in inevitable, the difference will be who survives and what they do afterwards.

And I'll be the one buying shares helped by the devaluated dollar when the fall down will occur, like some dudes did in 1929 and became uber rich hahahaha!!


At least I wished I did it lmao!!

Apophis The Great wrote:And I'll be the one buying shares helped by the devaluated dollar when the fall down will occur, like some dudes did in 1929 and became uber rich hahahaha!!


At least I wished I did it lmao!!

Common decency keeps me from telling what you can do to yourself.

~Zekk~ wrote:America is a country built on a foundation of lies and corruption, by thieves and cowards, for greed and the collection of power to those in control.

And everything went downhill from there...

Ohhhhh! Now I'm gonna get it, ain't I...

Personally, I see all this arguing as pointless, since I stand by the belief that I'll live to see the USA fall as a nation (like Rome, Egypt, Sumeria, and all others of ages gone by), if they don't destroy the rest of the world first (those of ages gone by didn't have nukes <_<)...

1st off, were not arguing, we are debating American imperialistic expansion and theft of the American peoples rights and sovereignty.

now thats out of the way...

theres nothing wrong with the people of the USA except for the fact the US government is lying to them and sending their sons to die for a lie.

there are 185 country's in the world and America has bases in 130 of them, whats wrong with that picture?

@ Zekk, mate, the war of independence came about because the European banking houses wanted to bring to America the same banking system they had established all over Europe. the founding fathers of America saw that this was a system setup to enslave people and put a yoke of debt round a nations neck. this is the REAL reason the war of independence took place.

after the war the founding fathers drew up the constitution and the bill of rights to PROTECT that which had cost so much...American freedom and independence.
this is why American people in general don't like war, thats not to say they wont fight if they are wronged...read that last again please

also the American people have been fooled into believing that they are the leaders of the free world and as such have a duty to the rest of the world to not only police it but to pay the ultimate price in the name of freedom if it is demanded...

2 things wrong with that picture...

1) look no further than the NWO,the Bilderberg group, CIA, MI5/6 for the current problems that the world is facing, in short, troops from many democratic country's are dieing by the 1K's every year for the lies we are told are the truths.

2) freedom is now an illusion and shadow of its former self. thats not to say it is dead, what that means is there is a deliberate attack on our freedoms by the very establishments we put into place to protect and to serve the public good...our governments!

correct me if i'm wrong but, hasn't every president of the USA sworn to uphold the constitution of the USA?

if so, why has GWB junior signed the bill that effectively wipes out the sovereignty of 3 nations with the formation of the NAU without consulting either congress or the American people?

is this not the HIGHEST form of treason?

what would your founding fathers have to say about that??

Phoenix of Terra wrote:No, no I can't. Because even though it appears to be coming, the end isn't here yet and I will do everything I can to postpone it, through helping to rebuild a military that has been bent out of shape by policies over the last decade and a half, and other civil service.
I frustrated with watching my country seeming to fall apart on so many levels. There are a lot of good people in it, I know that because I've met them. But they keep being overshadowed by the extremists, who want us to go either left or right so far that we tumble off the precipe which all nations balance on.

I know I won't be able to change everything by myself. I might not change anything at all, a complete failure. But the day I finally turn my back on the country I know and love is the day I can't look at myself in the mirror without shame.

1st off its not you that should feel shame in your country, its every single leader of the USA from Woodrow Wilson to GWB junior (with the exception of JFK) that should feel ashamed for being traitors to their own nation and for swearing falsly.

2ndly, no nation needs to have a standing army, no reason what so ever!

3rd, tell all democrats and republicans to stop being "GOOD" republicans and "GOOD" democrats and to start being 1st and foremost "GOOD" Americans, then the problems of the US and the world wont be so hard to fix.

Apophis The Great wrote:And I'll be the one buying shares helped by the devaluated dollar when the fall down will occur, like some dudes did in 1929 and became uber rich hahahaha!!


At least I wished I did it lmao!!

jim, thats not even remotely funny

people jumped to their deaths from office blocks and many MANY people lost everything because of the depression, including their lives for lack of food.

Concidering we all agree American rulers are highly corrupt and leading the country to its doom (which, in my opinion, they've been like that from the start), are you SURE you want to trust the history books that they've had control of from the start?

...Just a thought.

Apophis The Great wrote:And I'll be the one buying shares helped by the devaluated dollar when the fall down will occur, like some dudes did in 1929 and became uber rich hahahaha!!


At least I wished I did it lmao!!

That is a sick thing to say man.

~Zekk~ wrote:Concidering we all agree American rulers are highly corrupt and leading the country to its doom (which, in my opinion, they've been like that from the start), are you SURE you want to trust the history books that they've had control of from the start?

...Just a thought.

i don't trust the history books as far as i could throw either the white house or downing street which is why i have researched everything i am writing here

nobodyhere wrote:

~Zekk~ wrote:Concidering we all agree American rulers are highly corrupt and leading the country to its doom (which, in my opinion, they've been like that from the start), are you SURE you want to trust the history books that they've had control of from the start?

...Just a thought.

i don't trust the history books as far as i could throw either the white house or downing street which is why i have researched everything i am writing here

That perks my interest, a lot. If you do not learn from recorded history, then how do you research things like this?

as well as the recorded history there are other sources that can help you discover the truth, its not all a pack of lies but lies are easier to swallow when hidden in a truth, you just have to know how to separate the lies from the truth and things will start to become allot clearer, trust me i know

google is your friend, and so is google video

PM me for my msn addy if you want the red pill

remember, all i offer is the truth...nothing more

Sorry I didn't want to be offensive...anyway I can't buy american shares lol...

I have my evil moments, that's kinda worrying <_<


And about the creation of the country it's the truth I said.

corrections:

1 there's 195 countries in the world (192 un members)
2 yanks have troops in 135 countries
3 founding fathers "joined" the revolutionary war a few months after it'd started. they didn't want a war in the first place. nobody knows who started (fired the first shot) the revolutionary war.
4 the reason behind the great deppression was fed's meddling with the banking system
5 the principles and philosophy on which the us were founded where in like 80-90% very good. the us gov started to corrupt them somewhere around 1910-1920.
6 every beaurocracy is doomed. just some fall sooner, some later.

Corran Horn wrote:corrections:
5 the principles and philosophy on which the us were founded where in like 80-90% very good. the us gov started to corrupt them somewhere around 1910-1920.

That's what they want you to believe! But really, I think they had it all set up from the start. At least, certain groups...namely the ones to took control later, and began to let the corruption show through.

Corran Horn wrote:6 every beaurocracy is doomed. just some fall sooner, some later.

So true. Luckily, this one will fall before it causes any more major damage to the rest of the world...I hope.

~Zekk~ wrote:

Corran Horn wrote:6 every beaurocracy is doomed. just some fall sooner, some later.

So true. Luckily, this one will fall before it causes any more major damage to the rest of the world...I hope.

impossible.


Our economy is so powerful and other nations so dependent upon our products, business and economic stability the world economic structure would crumble if the US truly fell.

Ah, well...Time to start selling survival guides...

Though honestly, while It would hurt, your a little arrogant to think you'd drag EVERYONE down with you...