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Re: how to prevent farming

Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:17 pm
by Noobert
Stop trying to convince the poor guy to commit SGW suicide. It's not very nice at all. :lol:

Re: how to prevent farming

Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:21 pm
by Envy
Noobert wrote:Stop trying to convince the poor guy to commit SGW suicide. It's not very nice at all. :lol:


Ow Joining JediMasterX as CO and ask allot of recources isnt a suicide mission HI u even can call him names he'll just laugh and let u be.

only thing u have to be to be prevent being massed is hes CO :lol:

edit: Better yet join EnterTheLion u wont regret it.

Re: how to prevent farming

Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:27 pm
by Noobert
Envy wrote:
Noobert wrote:Stop trying to convince the poor guy to commit SGW suicide. It's not very nice at all. :lol:


Ow Joining JediMasterX as CO and ask allot of recources isnt a suicide mission HI u even can call him names he'll just laugh and let u be.

only thing u have to be to be prevent being massed is hes CO :lol:

edit: Better yet join EnterTheLion u wont regret it.


Nono, talking about people telling him to mass back. Suicideee! :lol:

Re: how to prevent farming

Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:29 pm
by Envy
Ehhh :shock: owk why would that be suicide ? I would do it any time anywere.

Re: how to prevent farming

Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:40 pm
by Noobert
Just imagine yourself in his position, not yours. A account, small Alliance, gets massed for having to many killable units. Then strikes back, attempting/massing the people who hit him. What do you think would happen to the Alliance and this person? :lol:

His entire alliance would probably get massed with him being sat on for quiet some time.

If that doesn't classify as suicide, I donno what does. :?

Re: how to prevent farming

Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 8:14 pm
by Z E R O
Noobert wrote:Just imagine yourself in his position, not yours. A account, small Alliance, gets massed for having to many killable units. Then strikes back, attempting/massing the people who hit him. What do you think would happen to the Alliance and this person? :lol:

His entire alliance would probably get massed with him being sat on for quiet some time.

If that doesn't classify as suicide, I donno what does. :?


I think most people that mass someone sorta expect a mass back. If not they are expecting too much and need to be massed to learn a lesson. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

So, if the first strike is done by someone else (Educators or whoever) and you return the attack, I'm sure they will not bring their whole alliance into it. No promises though.

Re: how to prevent farming

Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 9:24 pm
by Noobert
I never said (example) The Educators group or whomever would bring in their Alliance, I doubt they would need it for a smaller Alliance. :shock:

Oh well! Enough from me. :)

Re: how to prevent farming

Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 11:06 pm
by Nimras
Hmm well i agrea he is having a problem.

Because to much to protect his Income he get educated.

To little he cant hold it.

And well if he relies on NAQ to grow slow well then yeh what to do.

One thing is sure dont do following.

1. Mass back they would in most cases sit on you or make sure you dont mass them again by going after your friends, allies, officers and planets.
2. If they are from FUALL or TLE well then even trying to farm back would be stupid as again they can farm and educate you but you cant educate or farm them as that would be taken as a 1vs1 or war declaration by your alliance ending up you have to look at number 1.
3. Stop drawing attention wont help you and complaining wont either as they wont stop.
4. Get a Commander in TLE or FUALL will maybe help you as i recall TLE and FUALL has a rule about not farming and mass their members officers dont hold me to it as i arent sure as even i get farmed by TLE and i have a TLE officer *looks at Blahh you owe me 132bill :P done over 3 hits btw :P*
5. If none of above works join a alliance in TJP or FUALL as that means they wont hit you and no one will actually dare to hit you meaning your safe.

Thats what i can think off.

Ohh and moved.

Re: how to prevent farming

Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 11:29 pm
by Clarkey
fun factory wrote:i am wondering what should u do if u are being farmed it makes no sense
if u have 2 trill def power it is like 11 mio super defenders and 1 trill spy power which is 3 mio spies
1. u get massed-- Educated cause i have to many killable units out
2. u you are being sabbed
3. whole alliance come at u that u are a stat builder

so WTH u must do that u have good income and so many units that u arent educated!!!!!????

You can still have a 2tril def and 1tril covert without getting educated..... however you just need to make sure that the def and cov is only around 20% or less of your total army.

So it's not the fact that you have a 2tril def that you may get educated it's the % of your army.

The simplest solution is lower your income until your army grows. And because you've lowered your income you should then farm yourself to make up for the drop in income.

Re: how to prevent farming

Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 11:36 pm
by ogre9805
Nimras wrote:
Ohh and moved.



pure comedy timing lol :D

Re: how to prevent farming

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:03 am
by Nimras
ogre9805 wrote:
Nimras wrote:
Ohh and moved.



pure comedy timing lol :D


Lol how so?

Re: how to prevent farming

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:27 am
by Teal'auc of the Void
Life of newbie is surely hard nowadays. With the Educators around, who actually do more damage than help - but hey, that's their intent. And with people who mass for one naq hit (I am not innocent here either, as I tend to be more trigger happy, especially after I wake up and before I get my morning coffee...), it surely is hard to be a newbie these days.

I sort of can understand their concern. While I do not condine 'complaining' he does have a point that it's hard to survive, especially if he's small guy without decent alliance. Alliances do make difference, especially if you are respected warring alliance standing by their members.

I don't know how big are you mate, but if I were you, I'd just mass the offenders if it's in your capabilities. As someone said, people tend to respect those who can bare the teeth and stand their own ground. I met many awesome people in this game through warring and many of them are people I either respect or consider friends. Believe it or not, wars are possible the best way to make friends.

You have to accept the fact this game is mostly about war. You build up for better war effectivity and way to hurt the enemy, should the situation arise. You need to accept the fact when you mass, you need to be aware of fact you WILL lose stuff. But - if you balance your account well, you will be able to mass with great effectivity - ie you mass twice more of enemy's units than you lose, etc.

You need to learn to fight for yourself. Ultimately, when you hold your ground, you may be invited into alliance which will then guide you and hold your back, as they will see you are capable of doing so yourself and in time of need you would fight for your potential alliance members.

Good luck. :)



Teal'auc

Re: how to prevent farming

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 12:58 am
by madcat
Teal'auc of the Tok'ra wrote:Life of newbie is surely hard nowadays. With the Educators around, who actually do more damage than help - but hey, that's their intent. And with people who mass for one naq hit (I am not innocent here either, as I tend to be more trigger happy, especially after I wake up and before I get my morning coffee...), it surely is hard to be a newbie these days.

I sort of can understand their concern. While I do not condine 'complaining' he does have a point that it's hard to survive, especially if he's small guy without decent alliance. Alliances do make difference, especially if you are respected warring alliance standing by their members.

I don't know how big are you mate, but if I were you, I'd just mass the offenders if it's in your capabilities. As someone said, people tend to respect those who can bare the teeth and stand their own ground. I met many awesome people in this game through warring and many of them are people I either respect or consider friends. Believe it or not, wars are possible the best way to make friends.

You have to accept the fact this game is mostly about war. You build up for better war effectivity and way to hurt the enemy, should the situation arise. You need to accept the fact when you mass, you need to be aware of fact you WILL lose stuff. But - if you balance your account well, you will be able to mass with great effectivity - ie you mass twice more of enemy's units than you lose, etc.

You need to learn to fight for yourself. Ultimately, when you hold your ground, you may be invited into alliance which will then guide you and hold your back, as they will see you are capable of doing so yourself and in time of need you would fight for your potential alliance members.

Good luck. :)



Teal'auc


i agree fully :)

if i educate someone and they mass me back ......... u generally find i'd help em out a bit and rebuild them some. lol i massed a guy called MadWetCat because his name resembled mine so much .... he was a cool guy, so i took him on as an officer, rebuild him + more, now he's growing VERY well and in a decent alliance :P

way i see it, this games all about attitude,

whine + cry, u'll get squat but abuse,

grow some cahoonas, and fight back .... n u'll get respect :)

soooooooo, my advice to stop urself being farmed......mass those who massed u in the first place.

Re: how to prevent farming

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 1:00 am
by Raven
Dont try to farm back though or else you get called a sniper :lol:

Anyway just join TJP or FUALL more farms for me :-D

Re: how to prevent farming

Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:24 am
by Borek
Nimras wrote:Hmm well i agrea he is having a problem.

Because to much to protect his Income he get educated.

To little he cant hold it.

And well if he relies on NAQ to grow slow well then yeh what to do.

One thing is sure dont do following.

1. Mass back they would in most cases sit on you or make sure you dont mass them again by going after your friends, allies, officers and planets.
2. If they are from FUALL or TLE well then even trying to farm back would be stupid as again they can farm and educate you but you cant educate or farm them as that would be taken as a 1vs1 or war declaration by your alliance ending up you have to look at number 1.
3. Stop drawing attention wont help you and complaining wont either as they wont stop.
4. Get a Commander in TLE or FUALL will maybe help you as i recall TLE and FUALL has a rule about not farming and mass their members officers dont hold me to it as i arent sure as even i get farmed by TLE and i have a TLE officer *looks at Blahh you owe me 132bill :P done over 3 hits btw :P*
5. If none of above works join a alliance in TJP or FUALL as that means they wont hit you and no one will actually dare to hit you meaning your safe.

Thats what i can think off.

Ohh and moved.

That's complete b/s, firstly you will find most of the big farmers WILL respect someone who hits back, none of them are so stupid as to repeatedly farm someone who they know will just mass them back over it, the people who get farmed hard are the compliant farms who never complain and never hit back.

As for farming them back then the same goes as with massing, it will more than likely be respected, or at the very least convince them to talk about it. What you shouldn't do is farm the entire alliance, that WILL get you in trouble, hit the people who farm you and their alliance will probably insist they deal with it alone since it was their farming that promoted retaliation in the 1st place.

Complaining is everyone's right, if someone is making the game suck for you then whine away, just be prepared to accept that others will point fingers and snigger. Ignore them, they have probably forgotten what it was like when they were pellets and struggling to keep any naq.

A CO from TJP or FUALL definately won't guarantee you don't get farmed, but it WILL get you advice and help and there is always the possibility that your CO will mass your farmer for you, but that is very much down to the individual CO and who it is farming you.

Yes you can try to join TJP or FUALL, but i'm telling you now they don't want farms in their alliances, so man up and kick some ass, both of our Empires respect that and it will be a positive point on any applications you might make at a later date.

Hell, i spend 10 months fighting overwhelming odds shortly after i started just because i decided i wasn't going to take any poop from anyone, even my most bitter enemy from that time eventually became a friend and now many moons later i am part of his alliance.

War is good for many reasons, it's fun, you will learn tons about the game and providing you play the game as just that, a game, you will probably end up making many friends. End of the day it's just UU's and Naq in a browser game, doesn't really matter much if you take a big loss, or should i say it matters as much as you let it matter.