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Re: president 2008
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:58 am
by Mystake
@ ifrit
mate, i loved your post dude. real informative.
@ whoever said the plane would cause the seismic graphs to go banana's rather than rubble falling ot the ground
the towers were able to withstand wind forces of 3x the plane's force (if i remember correctly from ifrit's post).
falling floors though, you would think that when , for example
floors 80-100 drop on floors 0-79, you've got 20 floors of weight that just dropped
well, when the tower collapses down to 50 floors worth left, u'd think that the upper 50 floors would weigh more than the original 20 don't u?
Re: president 2008
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:43 pm
by Demeisen
a lot of information. hard to take it all in, especially if i dont need to.
if i gave the exact dimensions and specifications of a . . .frog, this wouldnt prove it was involved in a conspiracy. it seems much of your point was confused by the massive ammount of technical info (particularly to me at 7am)
it also seems you are another conspiracy nut who thinks he has seen the light and knows things lesser folk dont. you may feel a need to think you are in control, knowledgable, superior or something. you may have too much time on your hands. i cant say why people like you come up with this **Filtered** again and again and again. you pull facts off the internet to try to substantiate what you say. you probably quote many experts and provide video links to material made by retards with a camara. meh
you said something about the building resisting 3 times the weight of the plane? if the planes going several hundred times faster than the building i think the weight issue isnt as important. a penny can more a car if its going fast enough.
i cant believe. no wait i can actually. but its shocking that you have all these 'facts' and you still swear by this mad theory.
i saw the planes hit the towers on tv. thats what brought them down. show me an expert who says it was done by the government because so and so, and ill show you an expert who says the opposite (you would probably say he is a nazi-yeti-albanian-fisherman spy or something equally believeable as your ideas though)
whenever someone says something there will be atleast 1 fool who argues against it. you are of the kind who would tell me water isnt wet while im were standing in a rainstorm. pathetic.
i notice that the other buildings you discuss are all around half the height of the WTC. . . make a differance? i dont know. . .
and jus so you know, i dont dismiss all conspiracy theories. for example; man not landing on the moon is more plausable than your ideas. as is the yeti. and aliens. if someone was argueing for these theories id say good day to them, but atleast i would respect them. you 9/11 nuts though i look down upon. i bet you love 9/11. gives you **Filtered** to talk about in basements while watching xena the warrior princess and feeling important when you are actually impotent.
now building 7 i believe could be true. true being that the us government brought it down. i stress could be. there is atleast reasoning behind this. it was used by the CIA (or simillar) after all. there werent people inside it so bringing it down wouldnt kill people. controlled demolition would be safer. but equally it may not be true. so im not totally closed off to ideas, jus to the verbal diarrhoea spread all over the net.
to summarise this rather long and unorganised post i say you talk **Filtered**, you believe **Filtered** ,so pls go eat **Filtered** and leave the world alone.
Re: president 2008
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:04 pm
by Iƒrit
LiQuiD wrote:a lot of information. hard to take it all in, especially if i dont need to.
if i gave the exact dimensions and specifications of a . . .frog, this wouldnt prove it was involved in a conspiracy. it seems much of your point was confused by the massive ammount of technical info (particularly to me at 7am)
it also seems you are another conspiracy nut who thinks he has seen the light and knows things lesser folk dont. you may feel a need to think you are in control, knowledgable, superior or something. you may have too much time on your hands. i cant say why people like you come up with this **Filtered** again and again and again. you pull facts off the internet to try to substantiate what you say. you probably quote many experts and provide video links to material made by retards with a camara. meh
you said something about the building resisting 3 times the weight of the plane? if the planes going several hundred times faster than the building i think the weight issue isnt as important. a penny can more a car if its going fast enough.
i cant believe. no wait i can actually. but its shocking that you have all these 'facts' and you still swear by this mad theory.
i saw the planes hit the towers on tv. thats what brought them down. show me an expert who says it was done by the government because so and so, and ill show you an expert who says the opposite (you would probably say he is a nazi-yeti-albanian-fisherman spy or something equally believeable as your ideas though)
whenever someone says something there will be atleast 1 fool who argues against it. you are of the kind who would tell me water isnt wet while im were standing in a rainstorm. pathetic.
i notice that the other buildings you discuss are all around half the height of the WTC. . . make a differance? i dont know. . .
and jus so you know, i dont dismiss all conspiracy theories. for example; man not landing on the moon is more plausable than your ideas. as is the yeti. and aliens. if someone was argueing for these theories id say good day to them, but atleast i would respect them. you 9/11 nuts though i look down upon. i bet you love 9/11. gives you **Filtered** to talk about in basements while watching xena the warrior princess and feeling important when you are actually impotent.
now building 7 i believe could be true. true being that the us government brought it down. i stress could be. there is atleast reasoning behind this. it was used by the CIA (or simillar) after all. there werent people inside it so bringing it down wouldnt kill people. controlled demolition would be safer. but equally it may not be true. so im not totally closed off to ideas, jus to the verbal diarrhoea spread all over the net.
to summarise this rather long and unorganised post i say you talk **Filtered**, you believe **Filtered** ,so pls go eat **Filtered** and leave the world alone.
what about the diangle slices on the main support beams of WTC buildings? they are exactly compared to that of a controlled demolition. And lets not forget about the traces of Thermate found, a substace used to slice metal in demolitions.
Re: president 2008
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:46 pm
by Demeisen
theres always going to be another 'what about' etc etc
i dont care. kill me now or let me have a go at all you fantasists with the stick of truth! its magical and only hurts the silly theorists. yes. . .thats a good excuse. . .ill use that in court.
answer this: if the us government carried out this massive conspiracy and killed like 3k people, why the hell dont they kill you (and the person who brest fed you this story). whats a few more lives to keep their massive secret? i doubt the big conspiracy geeks would put up a fight lol email isnt a martial art. so you argue that the us government can take out a building in one of the busiest cities on earth and have no one be able to prove it, yet they cant stop a few fool bloggers? sounds like a bad joke to me.
Re: president 2008
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:42 am
by Iƒrit
You still dont understand the purpose 9/11 served for zionist and those poloticians in control at the moment, notice that since 9/11 the neo-cons outlined objectives in the PNAC report "Rebuilding Americans Defenses", that would have taken a long time to achive without "some catastorphic pearl harbor like event", have all been completed. Another sign of 9/11 being a 'false-flag' operation.
Im only asking questions suppling my own research comparing my findings with others that have done so as well, and that simply makes me a insane person? Some logic you have their Bill O'Riley...
Re: president 2008
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:31 am
by [KMA]Avenger
LiQuiD wrote:answer this: if the us government carried out this massive conspiracy and killed like 3k people, why the hell dont they kill you (and the person who brest fed you this story). whats a few more lives to keep their massive secret?
i'll answer this 1 point first by showing that these people do want to kill us as well as you and i would like a response on this point from you first before i move on.
this is 1 of the Giorgia guidestones, notice the first line, these people have put it into stone, now please call me a geek and anything else you want but i would like to see you argue with a stone!
they want to wipe out 9/10ths of the worlds population, good luck in your imaginary world but i prefer to live in reality.
look at the last line, "be not a cancer on the the earth, leave room for nature" this statement elevates the rights of nature to godhood, you know what thats called? paganism!
use your brain for the rest of the new commandments listed on that stone.
LiQuiD wrote:theres always going to be another 'what about' etc etc
i dont care. kill me now or let me have a go at all you fantasists with the stick of truth! its magical and only hurts the silly theorists. yes. . .thats a good excuse. . .ill use that in court.
answer this: if the us government carried out this massive conspiracy and killed like 3k people, why the hell dont they kill you (and the person who brest fed you this story). whats a few more lives to keep their massive secret? i doubt the big conspiracy geeks would put up a fight lol email isnt a martial art. so you argue that the us government can take out a building in one of the busiest cities on earth and have no one be able to prove it, yet they cant stop a few fool bloggers? sounds like a bad joke to me.
i'm sorry but your ignorance is astounding and mind numbingly painful to behold....
if you ask 9/11 believers what they want most you will get the same answer from 1 person to the next...
"give us a new and totally independent investigation into the events of 9/11 and listen to everyone who was there and witnessed the attacks and to not exclude anyones testimony simply because its inconvenient and put bush under oath and ask him the tough questions no one has asked him so far"
you may also like to know that bush has been caught lying about 9/11, thats on film its FACT and irrefutable, want me to show you or are you afraid of changing your views since you have such an unshakable opinion/belief, call it what you will.
i couldnt careless about about your opinions of me, the opinions that matter most to me are the opinions of my wife and kids and spending time with them, not in some dingy basement of your imagination. i live in the real world and i have family in the states and they have visited the WTC on numerous occasions and they could have easily died on 9/11, so this subject affects me on a personal level before you ask why i care.
notice how its YOU that tries to attack us with nonsensical statements about yetis and aliens and in no way do you provide a shred of evidence refuting anything we say. you try to attack us by asking questions which have been answered but you harp on with the same regurgitated questions and wont budge or question any fact!
trying to get threw to you is more painful than bashing your own head in against the wall, your so closed minded you may as well just copy paste any of your previous posts in reply to this!
Re: president 2008
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:29 pm
by Demeisen
if God himself/herself came down, did an investigation, proved the conspiracy is false, you would still want another one. thats the nature of conspiracy theorists. the more its proven false, the stronger their belief grows. you are fanatics.
[KMA]Avenger wrote:i have family in the states and they have visited the WTC on numerous occasions and they could have easily died on 9/11, so this subject affects me on a personal level before you ask why i care
i have many friends and family who could have been killed on 7/7. i myself could have been killed then. this doesnt give me an automatic right to talk bs on the internet.
ill not discuss this further. you are a minority of people who think you are special. people who believe aliens rule the world would be equally steadfast in their views. you cant argue with islamic extremists, you cant argue with 9/11 nuts. eat my **Filtered**
Re: president 2008
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:55 pm
by [KMA]Avenger
LiQuiD wrote:if God himself/herself came down, did an investigation, proved the conspiracy is false, you would still want another one. thats the nature of conspiracy theorists. the more its proven false, the stronger their belief grows. you are fanatics.
[KMA]Avenger wrote:i have family in the states and they have visited the WTC on numerous occasions and they could have easily died on 9/11, so this subject affects me on a personal level before you ask why i care
i have many friends and family who could have been killed on 7/7. i myself could have been killed then. this doesnt give me an automatic right to talk bs on the internet.
ill not discuss this further. you are a minority of people who think you are special. people who believe aliens rule the world would be equally steadfast in their views. you cant argue with islamic extremists, you cant argue with 9/11 nuts. eat my **Filtered**
your wrong on every single point and all you do is make assumptions based on your lack of understanding.
i suggest you reread my reply and MAYBE it will start to sink in whats going on...
i did however notice that you failed to make a reply to the FACt that they want to kill you...
oh well, maybe someone else with more than 2 brain cells to rub together will have something better to add.
Re: president 2008
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:59 am
by Demeisen
lol. an ant has 'more than 2 brain cells.' perhaps you should debate with your local colony. . .
Re: president 2008
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:56 pm
by [KMA]Avenger
lol, i would probably get further with them
Re: president 2008
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:07 pm
by Iƒrit
wow you assume to much, and you dont even intend to talk nor debate, you only accuse and redicule without understanding me or avenger. I would like you to stop slandering me, that would be great. Thanks in advance.
Re: president 2008
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:16 pm
by [KMA]Avenger
LiQuiD wrote:lol. an ant has 'more than 2 brain cells.' perhaps you should debate with your local colony. . .
oh BTW, you still didn't answer me when i proved to you that they do want to kill you
you asked the question, i provided the proof, will you now do me the courtesy of responding or will you carry on ignoring my points?
Re: president 2008
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:52 pm
by semper
[KMA]Avenger wrote:LiQuiD wrote:lol. an ant has 'more than 2 brain cells.' perhaps you should debate with your local colony. . .
oh BTW, you still didn't answer me when i proved to you that they do want to kill you
you asked the question, i provided the proof, will you now do me the courtesy of responding or will you carry on ignoring my points?
the stupid are indulged to greater heights by the observations and care of society. He seeks not your opinion nor your points of 'debate' ergo him not answering. Lol..for the air of intellect you try to hold about yourself, I thought that would be apparent?
i tolerate a good bit of demeaning and flaming in this section, i do it plenty myself, it helps character build people, make them stronger, but When more then one of my section users have problems with you, its time you take a hint.
Now I have intervened to bring this to an abrupt halt.
Any posts you make in this thread, avenger, other than the obvious next one of "I am sorry (insert list of people you offended)" will be deleted without further warning.
Please feel free to take part in any other and all other debates, but this one is no longer open to you, UNLESS you apologise and show a more respectful conduct.
I dont want to get the global mods involved or call for any warnings. So, count thy blessings and vamoosh!
~Semper
Re: president 2008
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:16 pm
by [KMA]Avenger
hmmm...will you also warn liquid for his first attack and subsequently rude and abusive post to me simply because he cannot fathom what is being said?
if you make the same request of him then i apologize, if not then you can go ahead and warn me all you like..
good day to you sir
Re: president 2008
Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:25 am
by semper
[KMA]Avenger wrote:hmmm...will you also warn liquid for his first attack and subsequently rude and abusive post to me simply because he cannot fathom what is being said?
if you make the same request of him then i apologize, if not then you can go ahead and warn me all you like..
good day to you sir
I dont make deals. Its a simple thing. It says in the debate section rules, flaming, insulting is allowed to a degree. That degree is met, when more than one member of the section is complaining about you to me, the head of the section. Which has been done.
Really, if your apparently soooooo smart, or at least as smart as the level of arrogance in your post's allows for and implies, you should understand this is not a democracy. Its a dictatorship. There are rules, follow them, or go away. Do as your told, or be punished. There are enough insults from you in this forum to have you banned at a whim.
People are in here to debate and take things with a pinch of salt. Not constantly be demeaned by, well...I dont know who you are.
So final warning, or you'll never get another word in this section that sticks.
Good day to you....
~Semper