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Re: Does anybody make....
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:42 am
by Brdavs
Funny you mention this/that Acronon... This wouldnt be the whole "I quit/fall out episode/feign" again would it? Call me a pessimist heh... And if not, you boys wont turn DUNE on us will you heh?
Rock that boat brdavs, ROCK IT!
But hey, seems like congratulations are in order. Seems heh....
Re: Does anybody make....
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:15 pm
by Acronon
Brdavs wrote:Funny you mention this/that Acronon... This wouldnt be the whole "I quit/fall out episode/feign" again would it? Call me a pessimist heh... And if not, you boys wont turn DUNE on us will you heh?
Rock that boat brdavs, ROCK IT!
But hey, seems like congratulations are in order. Seems heh....
Not at all mate, me and RahL talked to ETL about this before we did it, we explained that we have kinda lost something as far as the interest in the game goes and how much we miss the old days when things were simpler in game and such.
He was fine with us moving on and doing our own thing, there is no malice or disagreement with me or anyone else in FUAll, they are a great bunch of guys and I have had the honor of knowing and working with but me, RahL and the others that are joining us are all kind tired of the way things are with these massive 'empires' in game.
I admit, as does RahL and many others, that we are partly responsible for the present state of things and as such we are taking some responsibility for this by working to make a change.
Can you say the same?
I am not trying to point fingers or anything mate honestly if you are reading and posting here then you must have an interest in the topic meaning that on some level you know that things are not as good as they once were.
Re: Does anybody make....
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:28 pm
by Brdavs
No sweat, infact I think that if this is "legit" and for real that it`s a very nice, dare I say commendable, thing. But hey, given past records I`m sure you`ll understand if some people are slightly reserved and weary of strings attached...
As for my contribution... I like to think that warring one super-empire till death or deletion is also chipping in somewhat heh.
Re: Does anybody make....
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:39 pm
by Acronon
Brdavs wrote:No sweat, infact I think that if this is "legit" and for real that it`s a very nice, dare I say commendable, thing. But hey, given past records I`m sure you`ll understand if some people are slightly reserved and weary of strings attached...
As for my contribution... I like to think that warring one super-empire till death or deletion is also chipping in somewhat heh.
Right on mate, I never said my record was spotless, lol.
I admit that I have had good times and bad times here, we all have to be honest and most of us are still here.
I just miss the times when CO's and alliances worked to teach new players how to play instead of driving them from the before they get a chance to learn.
Yes, I have left and returned more than most and admit that I have sold 6 accounts in my time and given away another 4 but I always tried to find new players and show them the ropes if I could, even when they were not popular people to have a officers and such.
No, I do not expect every empire in the game to just dissolve into thin air but I do hope that they see that some of us are working to make a difference here and are willing to do whatever we can to make these things happen and either with us or in another new alliance of your own someday I hope that others will follow suit.
Re: Does anybody make....
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:01 pm
by rusteroo
Severian wrote:Shornaal wrote:Bad Wolf wrote:Does anybody make real 'Alliances' anymore?
Bad Wolf
The Man Behind the Curtain
Please define "Real" Alliances Bad Wolf.
The game has sadly turned into two super empires and thats it. Was chatting to someone about this last nite. You very rarely see other alliances going to war and even when they do members of the two super empires jump in. Sad times.
That is entirely the fault of 1 party whose expansions sparked reactionary expansions in order for the game to be in balance and competitive. Not content with that, that certain party decided to keep expanding until it was 3 times the size of its closest rival.
Thus all the pacts and military alliances are the repercussions of the actions decided by your HC and undertaken by your alliances as a whole and now the Server gets to enjoy a complete lack of diversity as the ingame bonds are reflected on forums meaning that the independent voices are literally outnumbered and drowned out by such large entities.
Their only hope to get anywhere is to gravitate towards one of the two powers and so as time progresses; the server becomes more and more polarised. They are given very little competitive choice where the options are to take a back seat, act as a satellite state or disband/merge with said superpower(s) further destroying what diversity is left.
FUALL has and always will be unhealthy for the server and why I am much happier with the TJP arrangement of independent entities standing up to a common cause rather than being a single complete entity that is far too bloated for the game at this stage.
Not only that, but your alliances own surrender policy seeks to affirm that:
6) You agree not to return to any TJP member team or ally after this conflict.
What do you think that is going to do should it become successful? This may sound like propaganda but for once just stand back and be honest about the situation. The current state of forums and ingame are FUALL's legacy to SGW for better or worse as their actions reverberate and affected the decisions and policy making of most other alliances.
i dont normally make a habit of responding to you cause its normally a complete waste of my time but in this case ill make an exception just to say as usual you chat **Filtered**... fuall has not ruined this game the only ones ruining it are the likes of the educators who i believe apart from 2 members is it.... consist of tjp members who pick on people who are having a hard enough time to grow as it is
reading the forums is like reading a tle forum... why cause in every single thread there is numerous tle posts even in things that dont concern them...
the existence of true alliances as this thread imply can not exist cause the likes of tle wont allow them to exist dare i mention aeu who paid tribute as per request for their zion war excursions only to be set upon shortly afterwards (i can only assume aeu renegged on their tribute otherwise tle declaring war on aeu is well a bit out of order otherwise)
in a nutshell you said the tle was formed to balance out the server from fualls apparent dominance well tell me whos going to balance it from you after fuall long give up even bothering..... meh i say to hell with all of it and all of you i really couldnt give two hoots what happens to most of the people in this game anymore cause most are spineless turds anyway
this game has gone to the dogs and to be honest im teetotal but ill be having a celebratory beer on the day this game dies as it should
Re: Does anybody make....
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:24 pm
by SVaRuN
Acronon wrote:Well, I already left mine to do just what I posted with my brother RahL.
I ll send a pm to your "brother" Rahl who wished to be ommited from this, so that he can take a hike from your new alliance if he still wishes to be on the same terms with us ...
As for you, new alliance..., old alliance..., whatever floats your boat.
Your still in the war... Blue
Re: Does anybody make....
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:39 pm
by Acronon
Hmmm, so we can keep farming one another and gain nothing?
Whatever mate, this 'war' is pointless.....
But this thread is not the place for this talk anyway, so you can PM me if you have more to say about it.
Re: Does anybody make....
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:46 pm
by SVaRuN
War being pointless has got nothing to do with you being ommited from it to grow, live in piece on the country side or whatever utopias you have...
And if you have nth to fight for... thats fine by me, just dont put me in the same bag with yourself...
Blue
Re: Does anybody make....
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:50 pm
by Juliette
*glares*
Someone thinks they're sca-ha-rey!
*runs away*
Acronon, are you going to send Psi such a funny message again to invite him to Reborn..? Sorry, it's late, I might make errors here. Psi is reborn too..
Re: Does anybody make....
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:55 pm
by Acronon
SVaRuN wrote:War being pointless has got nothing to do with you being ommited from it to grow, live in piece on the country side or whatever utopias you have...
And if you have nth to fight for... thats fine by me, just dont put me in the same bag with yourself...
Blue
If you have got something to say mate please say it over PM, this is not the thread for your trying to make someone fight you.
Rev. Auriel Daniels wrote:*glares*
Someone thinks they're sca-ha-rey!
*runs away*
Acronon, are you going to send Psi such a funny message again to invite him to Reborn..? Sorry, it's late, I might make errors here. Psi is reborn too..
Lol, maybe, you never know.
So long as he doesn't try to make us form some form of empire he is welcome, lol.
Re: Does anybody make....
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:58 pm
by Juliette
Acronon wrote:Rev. Auriel Daniels wrote:*glares*
Someone thinks they're sca-ha-rey!
*runs away*
Acronon, are you going to send Psi such a funny message again to invite him to Reborn..? Sorry, it's late, I might make errors here. Psi is reborn too..
Lol, maybe, you never know.
So long as he doesn't try to make us form some form of empire he is welcome, lol.
Ha!
That is an amusing idea, Psi making you an Empire.
He might say he'd like his CO along. *hides*
Time for bed.
Have a great success in becoming one of the best alliances, Reborn.. bring back the fun. I have said repeatedly to others that it would be the most fun to just fight everyone of your own size, raise a few newbies to fight alongside you, and avoid the very big targets unless you have some organisation.
Ah well.. I see you guys become great in the (near) future.
Re: Does anybody make....
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:23 pm
by Acronon
Thanks mate, but not everything is about fighting this alliance or that, we are not trying to become the new 'power' in the game, only work to restore some of the fun we used to have and some of the older styles of alliance play to the game, nothing more.
Re: Does anybody make....
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:14 am
by Tekki
LOL rusteroo, you are so correct. That post is nothing more than... well propoganda spam.
AEU tried a few times to war outside alliances, but for various reasons others jumped in. Not FUALL others either, TLE others, or threatened to. So hmmm no, I've had experiences with both FUALL, COP, TLE, CIA and TJP... FUALL has been consistent. The others rather... forgetful, bullying and self serving.
Re: Does anybody make....
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:40 am
by REK
hmmm well it never helps that the leadership of DDE and OE are friends outside this "game" and it not for both sets of leaders being stubborn and wanting to keep there history of there alliances we would have disbanded and formed 1 alliance like we had disccussed over 3 years ago ... but meh im not one for reminicing ... let the good times roll baby..
Re: Does anybody make....
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:07 am
by Mordack
If we're speaking candidly, then I agree wholeheartedly with the myriad of people who feel that 'superempires' have made the game less exciting and detract from it's overall quality.
In an ideal world, or least in my idea world, Omega would just be Omega. No feeder alliances, no sister alliances and no supercoalition. The core players of our alliance, people like ETL, Jake and Gunz, are among the best and more formidable players in the history of this game. The same can also be said for the 'newer' generation of Omega heavyweights. People like Geisha, Draleg and High Empty. With people like these on our side, I often wonder why we ever thought we needed anyone else.
I applied to join Omega because I thought it was the best alliance in the game; the crème de la crème of the SGW world. I still believe this is true, and I believe it'd still be true even without FUALL and the thousand or so alliance fighting alongside us. Like it was when I first started playing.
DISCLAIMER: These are just my personal opinions, and don't reflect the official stance of the Omega Empire, whom I will continue to fight alongside. This post is just the pipe dream of a player whose old enough to remember the good old days, but not old enough to have given up on the game entirely.