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Re: What the forums really need...
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:07 am
by Skunky
personally i think everyone who is having a go at the mods is probably just jealous, my cents.
Re: What the forums really need...
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:42 pm
by Lore
Tetrismonkey wrote: its all pointing to the fact that the mods are incapable of doing there jobs correctly.
Tetris, I respect your opinion but lumping all mods together is like saying all forum users are like "Forum Trolls" (could list names of hated players but chose not to).
We are not all the same.
You are not all the same.
Re: What the forums really need...
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:52 pm
by Lore
Tetrismonkey wrote:
Thats very true, there are a said few that need to be replaced, mostly for being bais in situations and abusing power.
Its not everyone, but as a team, if one mod does something bad, then all the mods have done something bad. Thats what a team is. Thats what I hear the mods need most of all. Teamwork.
It is, team work is very important, but if what your saying is true, then every forum user should be banned because Tok`ra is.
Not trying to argue you, I just get tired of being bashed when as far as I know Myself and several more mods have worked very hard, for some time now, and never had a direct standing complaint against us. I have always worked every problem out I have ever encountered quickly and quietly and to the satisfaction of everyone involved.
Re: What the forums really need...
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:14 pm
by Lore
If I may
Tetrismonkey wrote:
I have personaly never seen you do anything bad or heard anything bad about you,TY but its the few that mess everything up.like the few "forum trolls" make all forum users bad people?
As for the community, its not a team effort on the forums, everyone has different opinions and ideas, and beliefs so you cannot hold everyone accountable for one person in that instance.I agree
You can however, hold the mod staff accountable because they are to be unbias in there descisions, and there standards are the rules. They act and maintain each other as a team, if one falls, the rest do.I fully disagree. I can only voice my opinion and do whats right in my eyes. I can not force another person with the same athuority as me, or more, to do what I think is right. No more then you can. If this is truth, then there will NEVER be a mod team that succeeds. Might as well just quit now since my good deeds are immediatelt trumped by someone elses " not so good deeds".
People such as myself can only do so much to change things about mods, but as a mod yourself, maybe you should review some of the other mods and have them maybe removed?Mate, I have the same power and athority as you, I have a voice and a opinion and I voice it when asked or when I feel its needed or expected.
Quite honestly I think it would be intresting for some of you to see the termoil that has traspired in the mod sections. There have been heated discussions and down right fights over things. You have no idea. As for other mods,,, I say again. I have voiced my opinion in many ways and many times, but my voice is all the power I have, same as you.
Now I have voiced my opinion, and I hope it has not offended you. In the end its just the opinion of one man tho isn't it?
Re: What the forums really need...
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:31 pm
by Nimras
M8 problem is in public we are a team and need to support our members as thats what we need to do and i understand that.
But it doesnt mean we behind closed doors dont argue over the same issues and have heated discustions as Lore said and what not.
But saying all mods are bad is wrong there are many fine mods.
Re: What the forums really need...
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:10 pm
by Severian
Nimras wrote:M8 problem is in public we are a team and need to support our members as thats what we need to do and i understand that.
But it doesnt mean we behind closed doors dont argue over the same issues and have heated discustions as Lore said and what not.
But saying all mods are bad is wrong there are many fine mods.
I'm sorry but that's a load of garbage:
http://www.herebegames.com/StarGateWars ... 13&start=0How many mods stood by and either ignored the 'rule' or actually joined in the crowd attacking you? Does that not go against the whole stand by one another in public set out by Jason himself? The mods didn't support you there; they were part of the problem and willingly broke that rule.
Yet as soon as the problem is with the favoured one who got a free ride, Mods are suddenly bound by this code of not speaking up against them?
So it's not ok to attack mods under his wing who *are* causing real issues, but it is ok to attack mods who haven't really done anything wrong other than the fact the admin hasn't got them completely under his fingers - how very convenient...
'nuff said.
Re: What the forums really need...
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:43 am
by Juliette
Don't blow out your own candles, Sevster.
There was no 'attacking', merely a sensible and rational disagreement.
Aside from the few children who think themselves gods of the forum (and probably elsewhere, but hey, no disagreement from me), that thread was clean. Children who think themselves gods have no place on a mod team, anyway, and to my recollection, they aren't on it.
Rational and sensible disagreement, which eventually came to a proper closure with Nimras and the Spammers coming to a mutual understanding (albeit somewhat forced, both Nim and Spammers have been bonding afterwards [could give proof by linking thread, don't see the point in that]). Something that, amazingly, has not yet happened between the general group of complainees (generally the same few people, all with the same, misguided way of bringing their points to the discussion), and the mod team.
Hoch der Kaiser!! Hoch.
Severian wrote:Nimras wrote:M8 problem is in public we are a team and need to support our members as thats what we need to do and i understand that.
But it doesnt mean we behind closed doors dont argue over the same issues and have heated discustions as Lore said and what not.
But saying all mods are bad is wrong there are many fine mods.
I'm sorry but that's a load of garbage:
http://www.herebegames.com/StarGateWars ... 13&start=0How many mods stood by and either ignored the 'rule' or actually joined in the crowd attacking you? Does that not go against the whole stand by one another in public set out by Jason himself? The mods didn't support you there; they were part of the problem and willingly broke that rule.
Yet as soon as the problem is with the favoured one who got a free ride, Mods are suddenly bound by this code of not speaking up against them?
So it's not ok to attack mods under his wing who *are* causing real issues, but it is ok to attack mods who haven't really done anything wrong other than the fact the admin hasn't got them completely under his fingers - how very convenient...
'nuff said.
Re: What the forums really need...
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:49 am
by Nimras
Jack wrote:No one "attacked" Nimras, that thread's whole was to teach Nimras something about the only community this forum has. Which it succeeded in doing.
Lol sry but NO your wrong.
That topic proved nothing and did absolutely nothing for me or to me.
Tbh i still dont get why people think it was that topic that brought me and spammers together (P.S. jack not true not the only community this forum has).
I just listen as i always does when Jack brought the issue up in the mod area btw.
I posted i didnt agree but at same time said i accepted it. PSI didnt like i didnt agree and hoped i would change my mind but my mind is still set i have almost same idea like Wolf359 about spam. But i do also accept that the spammers dont like everything down there and worked with them on the issue in hand which can be seen down there as well i have visited them some more just to be sure they know i still is here and wanna work with them

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Re: What the forums really need...
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:52 am
by Juliette
Kinda like what I said then, right?
So nice we can agree, being a team and all.

Re: What the forums really need...
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:56 am
by Nimras
Rev. Auriel Daniels wrote:Kinda like what I said then, right?
So nice we can agree, being a team and all.

Hehe yes we agree it was all about Jack saying he didnt want what he considored garbage like the spammers down there did and we here in general considored spam lol.
So i accepted it and then this thread came where i just used the time to tell the spammers they just needed talking to me then we fixed it and moved on lol not really caring what the author tried to get out of it.
No offense to PSI btw.
Waite this means i actually has agreed with another one on a issue ohh noo's cant have that *starts scanning the whole forum for something to disgree with the few selected people (they know who they are) about to get back on right track*