Re: The Scandal: Madonna compare McCain with Hitler!
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:43 am
In a post calling JFK a good leader, any other argument is fail.
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Lois Lane wrote:In a post calling JFK a good leader, any other argument is fail.
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Corran Horn wrote:now i misread the topic title "The Scandal: Madonna compare McCain with Apophis!"
Semper wrote:Medicus Atrum wrote:Semper wrote:I am sorry, but I object. Adolf Hitler was not one of the worst dictators on earth. He was by far one of the best to have ever lived, a little crazy and awesomely terrible, but look what he made Germany from what it had become after 1918. yes, he may not have done it completely a lone, but he was the leader after all. He was an 'evil' man, but not a bad dictator.
Anyone contesting that and expecting to be accepted need only contest their own level of intellect and ignorance too.
Wow. You have lost any respect I ever had for you as a person.
My family is German, we came to America before the war because the changes that were happening there. To even THINK you would HINT at such a claim marks you as insane, what he did to the Jews is the worst mark on my peoples history, and to think you tried to JUSTIFY IT!
You say he was a good Dictator, and that he must be praised for excelling in his actions, Couldn't the same be said toward a Murderer? "Man, That Ted Bundy, He sure was a killer wasn't he? And he was good at it, one of the best infact! He should be awarded for his murderous actions agenst the Human race!" *Give Ol' 'Teddy' a Gold Star*![]()
My God, man, what were you thinking when you wrote that?!
oh...I am wounded. lol. I dont care what you think. I did not try to justify what Hitler did to the Jews, nor am I saying he was good because of what he did to them. Man you are a tool. Same goes to you Apadamek in this instance.
Apophis said, that Hitler was a bad dictator. Yet in 1925 when Germany was rock bottom, well somehow there was a change from the few years it spent in this terrible state to the powerful nation it had become by 1935. Hitler was at its helm. When the war started, Hitlers one and only major mistake was starting a war on two fronts against Russia, a massive and history turning mistake, but none the less just one fatal mistake after a massive line of success. He played the rest of europe, including england for fools. Neither of you cannot deny his success in leading that country for as long as there was some, and as I said to do so only shows the measure of your own ignorance.
So, please. If, Medicus, you wish to post, at least make sure you understand what I have written so you do not make false claims.
some people, I dont know..absolute...*strolls off ranting and flailing arms*..
And sure Germany did well enough for those years till the 40's. Then his all powerful achievements came to nothing, the economy was destroyed his country was fractured and Germany was a tool for US and Russian political games for the next fourty years. Totally worth 15 years of economic rise.
His only mistake was declaring war on the United States after Pearl Harbor, the Russians were doing terribly in the beginning, losing all their tanks and factories. Without the US shipping in tanks and arms and food then Russia would have fallen and the war would have gone on far longer.
Don Lewis wrote:And sure Germany did well enough for those years till the 40's. Then his all powerful achievements came to nothing, the economy was destroyed his country was fractured and Germany was a tool for US and Russian political games for the next fourty years. Totally worth 15 years of economic rise.
His only mistake was declaring war on the United States after Pearl Harbor, the Russians were doing terribly in the beginning, losing all their tanks and factories. Without the US shipping in tanks and arms and food then Russia would have fallen and the war would have gone on far longer.
lol, dont think for one second declaring war on the US caused hitlers downfall, its the russians that crippled him, who in no way needed any help from the US. Sure they lost tanks and factories, but as they fell further back into russia they literally moved their factories until a point where for every 1 tank destroyed they were pumping out 3 new ones.
Napoleon himself dubbed the mud of russia in the winter as the 5th element as it was impossible to traverse effectively. Hitler had the same problem, he couldnt get resources to the front fast enough and it inevitably collapsed. That was his one great tactical mistake as a ruler imo.
As for him being a good dictator, sure he was an awsome tactical, economical and political leader, its his morals that let him down.
Don.
Corran Horn wrote:well.. if good dictator is the one that ppl of his country follow and adore, then yes. hitler was definately a good dictator. as for his achievments. he turned germany into pile of rubble (with some help from other annoyed nations like yanks, brits, russians... ) yet ppl still liked him (and some still like him today)... and they are homo SAPIENS...
for non blood thirsty dictators chack:
- chiang kai-shek
- augusto jose ramon pinochet ugarte