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Re: Papers Please?

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:30 am
by [KMA]Avenger
maybe people should pay more attention to whats going on instead of living in dream land? 8)

sigh!

Re: Papers Please?

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:59 am
by Cole
[KMA]Avenger wrote:regardless of peoples opinions, you'd think this poll would have more votes than it has :?

Because it's oh so biased.

Yes please, Bahh Bahh.
Absolutely not.
Erm, whats an ID card? (Not needed, as it's explained by topic poster, unless voter doesn't read topic, or is still not getting it after reading first post[s])
I Don't Care, I'm a Nihilist. (useless choice)
The man can stick it where the sun don't shine. (useless choice, same as absolutely not, just more "familiar language" used.)
I just don't know.

Correct poll:
Yes, for everyone.
Yes, only for criminals and dangerous people (my vote if it was an option).
I don't know/I'm neutral.
Absolutely not.

Re: Papers Please?

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:06 am
by Oculus Sinister
I will presume you jest, LegendaryApophis.
There is absolutely no bias whatsoever in this poll. How can you say that?

Re: Papers Please?

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:16 am
by [KMA]Avenger
Oculus Sinister wrote:I will presume you jest, LegendaryApophis.
There is absolutely no bias whatsoever in this poll. How can you say that?


i agree with you...

maybe jim doesnt understand it coz its not in french and something has got lost in the translation?



































just kidding jimbo :-D

Re: Papers Please?

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:40 am
by Cole
Oculus Sinister wrote:I will presume you jest, LegendaryApophis.
There is absolutely no bias whatsoever in this poll. How can you say that?

Read my post again. It's CLEARLY biased poll.
This poll is:

-Yeah 100% for it (bahh bahh is biased comment, suggesting people who support it are boring to listen, and hence, won't be listened to if they show their arguments)
-No 100%
-I don't know what it is (read my comment towards that option)
-I don't care and I don't know (not what it is, but what to pick, the last option) could be merged, since, even if the reason for absence of taking side is different, the result is the same: they don't take side.
-Useless, as same as second vote
-I don't know (could be merged with I don't care, not because it's same as not caring, but because missing useful options are missing and could replace its space).

As I said, it misses options like, "Yes, but...".
For example, "Yes, but only for criminals and dangerous people", is my stance, and yet, is missing from choices.
An UNbiased poll would have them.

An obvious proof that this poll is biased, is there's NO option(s) which is(/are) following my position(s) on the subject! Therefore, I didn't vote in the said poll.

Hence, the lack of votes observed in the poll, Avenger.

Whether *you* find it biased or not, it's not my problem, I do find it biased. Therefore, I will side with Lois and other 'yes voters' on the poll. However, I find it extremly biased to add a criticizing comment in a poll option, while "compromise" choices are obviously missing.

Re: Papers Please?

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:03 pm
by Kit-Fox
www.no2id.net

please do take time to peruse the site and discussion boards, you will find quite a lot of information relating to the UK scheme and how the gov is pushing forwards.

Re: Papers Please?

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:44 pm
by Oculus Sinister
LegendaryApophis wrote:
Oculus Sinister wrote:I will presume you jest, LegendaryApophis.
There is absolutely no bias whatsoever in this poll. How can you say that?

Read my post again. It's CLEARLY biased poll.

What? They do not have sarcasm in France? Quite sad. Quite sad.

Re: Papers Please?

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:57 pm
by Cole
Oculus Sinister wrote:
LegendaryApophis wrote:
Oculus Sinister wrote:I will presume you jest, LegendaryApophis.
There is absolutely no bias whatsoever in this poll. How can you say that?

Read my post again. It's CLEARLY biased poll.

What? They do not have sarcasm in France? Quite sad. Quite sad.

Did you at least notice that someone posted after you, and before me, before trying to claim anything?
I'm not posting only for you, since Avenger seemed to agree with you (and I don't think he was sarcastic too, or was he?), and afterall, there are other people who read this topic. What I post is posted towards anyone who finds that poll unbiased.

Re: Papers Please?

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:34 am
by [KMA]Avenger
was an attempt to lighten the mood mate :wink:

Re: Papers Please?

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:46 am
by S0lid Snake
Rofl...

Funny stuff, LA the poll is meant to be sarcastic...

But,

If you wish, I will add some more options. Can you post a list of option you would like to see added, thanks.

http://www.no2id.net/

Excellent site, thanks for posting that one Kitfox. :)

Re: Papers Please?

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:14 am
by Cole
S0lid Snake wrote:Rofl...

Funny stuff, LA the poll is meant to be sarcastic...

But,

If you wish, I will add some more options. Can you post a list of option you would like to see added, thanks.

http://www.no2id.net/

Excellent site, thanks for posting that one Kitfox. :)

Biased or sarcastic it's the same result, it makes less people vote in the end! :-D


-Yes, but just for criminals and everyone with a jail/justice past,
-It's not enough,
-I am ok with it, as long as it concerns others not me

(last one for the fun :lol: )

Re: Papers Please?

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:31 am
by [KMA]Avenger
excellent site indeed, thanks kitfox...

my vote hasn't changed, the man can roll up his ID card and sit on it for all i care!

Re: Papers Please?

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:23 am
by Demeisen
i wonder if theres any random theory, campaign etc you dont believe in.

saw some research saying conspiracy nuts like an ordered world so they rationalize and create connections/truths/theories where there are none. also they generally have less control in their life so they try to control others thoughts. conspiracy theorists have the potential to believe idiot things written in their DNA. i forgive you kma you cant help it, its a medical condition :lol:

seems very uncaring and foolish saying there should be no id cards. a child murderer or rapist should be made to carry a card (and be tagged/castrated if i had my way). giving dangerous people cards to moniter them would protect their potential victims. can you deny that in any way? if you do you must be lying to us aswel as yourself.

in the future i think if the government said there would be free cancer cures for all you lot would be straight on to the conspiracy **Filtered**. if it was proven safe throughout the world by all scientific tests you would find a dude who worked cleaning a lab and use him to substantiate your ideas. you would always find some way to preach your theories no matter how much they were disproven or debunked. for you lot an expert is only an expert until he proves you wrong and then he is a government-super-ninja-scientist-neocon-satan-incrediblehulk-superflyspy who must be under state control. you lot crack me up. drama queens :lol:


oh and the poll does seem bias. not sure if its been changed or whatever but i voted for the 2nd one down (yes with conditions). if it were fair and had sensible options i would have voted when i 1st saw this and not today.

Re: Papers Please?

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:32 am
by Cole
LiQuiD wrote:i wonder if theres any random theory, campaign etc you dont believe in.

saw some research saying conspiracy nuts like an ordered world so they rationalize and create connections/truths/theories where there are none. also they generally have less control in their life so they try to control others thoughts. conspiracy theorists have the potential to believe idiot things written in their DNA. i forgive you kma you cant help it, its a medical condition :lol:

seems very uncaring and foolish saying there should be no id cards. a child murderer or rapist should be made to carry a card (and be tagged/castrated if i had my way). giving dangerous people cards to moniter them would protect their potential victims. can you deny that in any way? if you do you must be lying to us aswel as yourself.

in the future i think if the government said there would be free cancer cures for all you lot would be straight on to the conspiracy **Filtered**. if it was proven safe throughout the world by all scientific tests you would find a dude who worked cleaning a lab and use him to substantiate your ideas. you would always find some way to preach your theories no matter how much they were disproven or debunked. for you lot an expert is only an expert until he proves you wrong and then he is a government-super-ninja-scientist-neocon-satan-incrediblehulk-superflyspy who must be under state control. you lot crack me up. drama queens :lol:


oh and the poll does seem bias. not sure if its been changed or whatever but i voted for the 2nd one down (yes with conditions). if it were fair and had sensible options i would have voted when i 1st saw this and not today.

I convinced poll creator to make it a more fair poll :-D
Been changed today.

Re: Papers Please?

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:46 am
by [KMA]Avenger
LiQuiD wrote:i wonder if theres any random theory, campaign etc you dont believe in.

saw some research saying conspiracy nuts like an ordered world so they rationalize and create connections/truths/theories where there are none. also they generally have less control in their life so they try to control others thoughts. conspiracy theorists have the potential to believe idiot things written in their DNA. i forgive you kma you cant help it, its a medical condition :lol:

seems very uncaring and foolish saying there should be no id cards. a child murderer or rapist should be made to carry a card (and be tagged/castrated if i had my way). giving dangerous people cards to moniter them would protect their potential victims. can you deny that in any way? if you do you must be lying to us aswel as yourself.

in the future i think if the government said there would be free cancer cures for all you lot would be straight on to the conspiracy **Filtered**. if it was proven safe throughout the world by all scientific tests you would find a dude who worked cleaning a lab and use him to substantiate your ideas. you would always find some way to preach your theories no matter how much they were disproven or debunked. for you lot an expert is only an expert until he proves you wrong and then he is a government-super-ninja-scientist-neocon-satan-incrediblehulk-superflyspy who must be under state control. you lot crack me up. drama queens :lol:


oh and the poll does seem bias. not sure if its been changed or whatever but i voted for the 2nd one down (yes with conditions). if it were fair and had sensible options i would have voted when i 1st saw this and not today.


firstly, you assume to much as always :wink: i'll just use this famous quote...

"none are more hopelessly enslaved than those who (falsely) believe they are free".

2ndly, i have a wife and kids and if it was up to me, rapists and pedophiles would not live long enough to see an ID card or a tag, i REALLY shouldn't have to say that, should i ?!

but hey, lets just keep assuming things shall we :-)


edit, liquid please tell me something...

putting all conspiracy's, assumptions, terrorists, safety, jest as well as the issue with pedophiles and rapists to 1 side...

are you in favour of the ID card for the general public as something you believe in, or as something the govt has told you is needed for what ever reason that maybe?