"Cow and chicken(fly)" case #1

[Manetheren]

I think the ombudsman needs an assistant or a vice-ombudsman.

[caesar2]

well, im still awaiting ombudsman's post here. or PM, or email or something.

[Noobert]

Good luck.

Bad news for Bill. He won't be around for a while, even if we love him so much.

[Solus]

I think the ombudsman needs an assistant or a vice-ombudsman.

Vote for me!

Ill give them hell for you all! Nah...

From what I have read, this seems to be all a little bit exagerated... There was no personal insult, there was no "rule" breaking... Thus meaning What Deni did was wrong and as such learn from it.

So its ok to refer to someone as a fly in a "insulting" manner, but when "cow" is used, its wrong, just because it can be refered to someones wieght?

Good god people, if things like that honestly offend you, stop living in that sheltered little corner of the world.


Ive seen much worse come from this forum, hell ive done it dozens of times, even in a THREAD TITLE, refering to the word "dumbass".



@Deni
Stop picking and choosing what may be offensive and what not, its one path, not both. When you call something simple as "cow" offensive, but not "dumbass", you are making a very unclear boudrie for the forum users to post in.

when talking to a female the word 'cow' is EXTREMELY offensive. deni did the right thing.

[Zeratul]

from definition of cow:

4. Informal, offensive a disagreeable woman [Old English cū]

[Lore]

As I told you via PM, get all the facts before trying to plead a case, and as such this is C2's case with Bill, not yours. If you can, respect that. This is no place for spamming.

[caesar2]

so wheres bil? i think deni should be suspended until he will sort this. so than i will realy think this forum is clear. if she wont be, i will think this is just circus and all right, rules and all mods are just fake.

[caesar2]

from definition of cow:

4. Informal, offensive a disagreeable woman [Old English cū]

sorry, ppl who are using english as 2nd language are not spending hours reading explainings of each word. i dint find this definition on net. you could post the link next time. and of course, use only official sites, not sites where can someone upload.

[Lore]

so wheres bil? i think deni should be suspended until he will sort this. so than i will realy think this forum is clear. if she wont be, i will think this is just circus and all right, rules and all mods are just fake.

I'm sorry but that has to be one of the worst and lest thought out idea I have seen in some time.

If it were so then a single group could raise claims against 1/2 the mods and get them suspended, Why? Thats playing with fire and rather foolish.

You can think it a circus and you can think the mods fake all you want, Its your choice.

If you can not accept a mod acted on REPORTED posts, modded 3 post made in succession, and all three have previvable r/l insults in them. Even you yourself descibed one as "disgusting". You recieved no verbal warning, You recieved no offical warning, you recieved no user note. Seems that even tho the mod knew you did have a history of personal r/l insults that they did not feel it necissary to give any indication, but did feel it necissary to remove the word and the "sense" it gave.


As YOU just said, you didn't know it had that meaning, and NO one said you did. It was quietly modded, and had it stood there allone and not between 2 nasty r/l comments it prolly would have never been touched, but because the 2 comments before and after were made, it changed the "Feel" or "meaning" of your post.

As I said, you want to call it a circus, feel free. I too am feeling pretty much the same, especially when this much fuss is raised of something so miniscule. NO warnings/notes of any kind were given. Even you yourself say the other 2 posts, both before and after yours were in totally bad taste. Yet you think a mod should be tared and feathered for moding 1 word and cant see the entire picture.

Meh, Continue your case. I hope Bill responds very soon personally.

[caesar2]

I agree with 99% Lore. Your right. But after all, if you check the whole case, and the relationship wich is between mod and those who reported, it was not so so simple. Im pretty sure person wich reported came to MSN and was whinning to mod, wich edited my and another's post.

Lore, i didnt acuse you, so dont take it so ofensive. You should read another parts of forums and how ppl are breaking rules, how ppl remind me always on this case and than judge me.

i wont post here until bill comes from vacation. please, lock this thread to avoid spam and insults. thank you

[Lore]

I agree with 99% Lore. Your right. But after all, if you check the whole case, and the relationship wich is between mod and those who reported, it was not so so simple. Im pretty sure person wich reported came to MSN and was whinning to mod, wich edited my and another's post.

Lore, i didnt acuse you, so dont take it so ofensive. You should read another parts of forums and how ppl are breaking rules, how ppl remind me always on this case and than judge me.

i wont post here until bill comes from vacation. please, lock this thread to avoid spam and insults. thank you

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[pianomutt20000]

I feel insulted. Admins edit my posts where i used peacfull word "cow". involved person, called cow clearly taged me as a fly. this post was not edited.

Can someone explain me difrences between animals? if i call someone snake, dog, cat, rat, chicken, fly cow... there are diferences?

I was taged as fly, well it was funny, until few involved admins edited my posts. well, they were not involved in whole story (all posts). they just as usualy feel the need to teach me how to act.

well, that mod who edited my post was deni.


Fuall Plus VS The Task Force "Game Over!" Take 3 page 650

it was enough when ppl screamed on me on MSN when i asked tekki if she is hungry. and its enough if someone like deni edites my posts about tekki. this forum was always influed by some kind of ppl.

Cow is a term of slang to refer to someone as being fat, so it's a matter of mod preference. If i call someone a cow, then i am insulting them outside the game...which is against the rules.


Snake, can be ingame...as it refers to someone who is sneaky in a bad way.

Dog usually means a guy who isn't faithful Sometimes a random insult towards enemies, so ok. Depends on usage.

Chicken means coward - game related easily applied.

Rat is someone untrustworthy, - game related.

Fly (how would you refer to someone as a fly....maybe how insignificant they are?)


Anyways, your argument has no basis.

Bill

[caesar2]

I feel insulted. Admins edit my posts where i used peacfull word "cow". involved person, called cow clearly taged me as a fly. this post was not edited.

Can someone explain me difrences between animals? if i call someone snake, dog, cat, rat, chicken, fly cow... there are diferences?

I was taged as fly, well it was funny, until few involved admins edited my posts. well, they were not involved in whole story (all posts). they just as usualy feel the need to teach me how to act.

well, that mod who edited my post was deni.


Fuall Plus VS The Task Force "Game Over!" Take 3 page 650

it was enough when ppl screamed on me on MSN when i asked tekki if she is hungry. and its enough if someone like deni edites my posts about tekki. this forum was always influed by some kind of ppl.

Cow is a term of slang to refer to someone as being fat, so it's a matter of mod preference. If i call someone a cow, then i am insulting them outside the game...which is against the rules.


Snake, can be ingame...as it refers to someone who is sneaky in a bad way.

Dog usually means a guy who isn't faithful Sometimes a random insult towards enemies, so ok. Depends on usage.

Chicken means coward - game related easily applied.

Rat is someone untrustworthy, - game related.

Fly (how would you refer to someone as a fly....maybe how insignificant they are?)


Anyways, your argument has no basis.

Bill

you should go deeper to this case, read all posts. my edited post was bad timed, between 2 real insults but my post was never insult. all of you are arguying with cow = fat, but when i firt time read tekki post where she called me fly the first think i had in eyes was Cow as oposit of fly. whole story about this animal game is about MS, MS size and MS fight. i massed tekkis BIG (Cow) MS with my small (Fly) MS and thats the story. This annimal names was though on MS basicly. Becasue: another stats in both accounts we can compare. Only MS is that big difference wich make massing harder and makes Tekki's account stronger. so yes, MS Cow pwns MS Fly but if Fly is infected it can kill Cow.

bill, ombudsman. all players involved in server war like to provoke each other, but tekki can confirm all PMs between us were never insulting the other side, i think i never insulted tekki's RL person and i wish i know english language better to know how to write nice posts without mistakes.

My post did not insult tekki, another 2 posted at the same tim did. so deni had no reason to edit that post and if tekki wasnt my enemy she will maybe agree with me in all i wrote.

[Tekki]

I've been quiet in this thread until now Ceasar but if you are going to start claiming I will do stuff, I'll post just this.

but tekki can confirm all PMs between us were never insulting the other side,

No. I will not confirm this.

[caesar2]

who told you to post that? or it came from your head? realy?

thanks, ombudsman. can you close this thread. i just found out...

this forum is heavy influed by few ppl. i will not try to call for true again, cuse its wasting of time.

I wish good luck to everyone, peace in world and lot of love!


PS: hope never die, liars will be judged.