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Re: Another Feeder...

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:46 pm
by S1eepy
well, im going to sleep - helpfully seijuro will build up enough to mass me back, then he will lose more than 100b next time =)

Re: Another Feeder...

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:52 pm
by Slugworth Assrot
S1eepy wrote:
Slugworth Assrot wrote:Agreed, I also have a special place in my logs reserved for Seijuro.


well, he just lost 30 gods + 40b worth of weapons, you can have the next load he builds


I was trying to look at him actually, I see he was phased out for covert activity, lol. I also discovered that the changes to friendly fire activity havent affected covert either... I was getting the 15second wait message even though I hadnt yet spied him.

I really hope the changes made to attacking, to prevent friendly fire defence, were successful.

Re: Another Feeder...

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:54 pm
by Slugworth Assrot
Shadow_Dragon wrote:
Slugworth Assrot wrote:Agreed, I also have a special place in my logs reserved for Seijuro.

As for Cyber Demon, I'd be happy to let it go if he promises to stop doing it.


Like I said I didnt accept his resignation, he was going to delete his account over this, I know he wont do it again, but please feel free to pm him over this. I cant afford to be losing good members lol

As for your point Sleepy im forced to agree also, this may slow things down, or it may just make matters worse, but lets just sit back and see what happens...


I dont expect him to quit or be banned over this, I'm sure he's nowhere near as bad as Fearless was, I just want it to stop. If people cant play fairly, then whats the point?

Im sure that whoever wins would prefer their victory to be based on skill rather than who can cheat the most and get away with it.

Re: Another Feeder...

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:41 pm
by Shadow_Dragon
Slugworth Assrot wrote:
Shadow_Dragon wrote:
Slugworth Assrot wrote:Agreed, I also have a special place in my logs reserved for Seijuro.

As for Cyber Demon, I'd be happy to let it go if he promises to stop doing it.


Like I said I didnt accept his resignation, he was going to delete his account over this, I know he wont do it again, but please feel free to pm him over this. I cant afford to be losing good members lol

As for your point Sleepy im forced to agree also, this may slow things down, or it may just make matters worse, but lets just sit back and see what happens...


I dont expect him to quit or be banned over this, I'm sure he's nowhere near as bad as Fearless was, I just want it to stop. If people cant play fairly, then whats the point?

Im sure that whoever wins would prefer their victory to be based on skill rather than who can cheat the most and get away with it.


Agreed

Re: Another Feeder...

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:44 pm
by S1eepy
Hmm, I noticed the top up increased slightly to 103k

Wasn't this guy was it? Coz that's lots of naq
Cosmic 01
Id - 26986

Stupid pol shield won't even let me spy him.

Re: Another Feeder...

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:50 pm
by bebita
S1eepy wrote:Hmm, I noticed the top up increased slightly to 103k

Wasn't this guy was it? Coz that's lots of naq
Cosmic 01
Id - 26986

Stupid pol shield won't even let me spy him.

is not him

Re: Another Feeder...

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:36 pm
by gwm2
Not quite 103K but that account is very close

Re: Another Feeder...

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:59 pm
by devildog
There is no wraith race here in quantum...so there should be no feeding...

Re: Another Feeder...

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:24 am
by S1eepy
S1eepy wrote:well, im going to sleep - helpfully seijuro will build up enough to mass me back, then he will lose more than 100b next time =)


hmm, seijuro didnt build up, but a brand new account did it in his stead :shock:

Re: Another Feeder...

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:00 am
by Ace1102
HippyFool wrote:
FEARLESS wrote:Thanks... I wanted to talk to admin about getting me back. lol Sadly, He wasn't around.

EDIT:
S1eepy wrote:There are ways around that, but like I said, nothing for sure.


What do you mean that there are ways? :?


It's called a proxy, or i believe if you reformat your computer your IP changes...(not 100% on that one).

In other words, IP bans don't do much at all unless the player is a moron.

The fact that you play a game like this (which generally means you are somewhat interested in various computer related things...like proxies) means that you playing ignorance on knowing any way around an IP ban simply makes it look more suss..

Although that is just my opinion :)



Yah, Sorry to burst the bubble on this one hippy,
Formatting your computer to change you IP address is so funny I would pay to see it happen!!
IP addresses are given to you by your ISP as you connect to the internet.
With most ISP's every time you connect to the net, you get a different IP address, this is called a DYNAMIC IP ADDRESS (changes with each connection to the internet).

Therefore, IP Bans = Useless...
It would ban somebody until, oh say, they reset their net connection, then hey presto, new IP :)

Not a real important point, but one that had to be made nonetheless,
and something I feel everybody calling for IP bans should be made aware of..

Re: Another Feeder...

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:09 pm
by Shadow_Dragon
Ace1102 wrote:
HippyFool wrote:
FEARLESS wrote:Thanks... I wanted to talk to admin about getting me back. lol Sadly, He wasn't around.

EDIT:
S1eepy wrote:There are ways around that, but like I said, nothing for sure.


What do you mean that there are ways? :?


It's called a proxy, or i believe if you reformat your computer your IP changes...(not 100% on that one).

In other words, IP bans don't do much at all unless the player is a moron.

The fact that you play a game like this (which generally means you are somewhat interested in various computer related things...like proxies) means that you playing ignorance on knowing any way around an IP ban simply makes it look more suss..

Although that is just my opinion :)



Yah, Sorry to burst the bubble on this one hippy,
Formatting your computer to change you IP address is so funny I would pay to see it happen!!
IP addresses are given to you by your ISP as you connect to the internet.
With most ISP's every time you connect to the net, you get a different IP address, this is called a DYNAMIC IP ADDRESS (changes with each connection to the internet).

Therefore, IP Bans = Useless...
It would ban somebody until, oh say, they reset their net connection, then hey presto, new IP :)

Not a real important point, but one that had to be made nonetheless,
and something I feel everybody calling for IP bans should be made aware of..


Sorry for this Mic but you are also wrong, you are correct but only partly

every time you connect with a dynamic it does change your IP address but only slightly, 100-300 its not that great a difference, so the IP ban would take this into consideration, basicly it would ban the possible range of IP's you ISP would provide.

and after doing some Google work I have also came accross ways to avoid proxies, I never used them so im not sure how they work, but the gist is that they are an IP mask, sending fake info on your IP making it possible to log in, this can also be defeated as im sure forum would explain if he took the time... but he is a very busy bee and cant do everything for us :)

just thought I would clear this up a little.

Re: Another Feeder...

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:15 pm
by Ace1102
As above, the IP mask theory is accurate...
But no server admin in their right mind would ban a block of IP addresses, because that effectively bans hundreds of legitimate people connecting to their servers...
Trust me I used to be a server admin :P

IP bans were purely that, bans made on the offending IP address...
Sane people try not to ban things/people that have not done anything wrong.

And like I said, not ALL ISP's have dynamic IP addresses

Re: Another Feeder...

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:32 pm
by Shadow_Dragon
Ace1102 wrote:As above, the IP mask theory is accurate...
But no server admin in their right mind would ban a block of IP addresses, because that effectively bans hundreds of legitimate people connecting to their servers...
Trust me I used to be a server admin :P

IP bans were purely that, bans made on the offending IP address...
Sane people try not to ban things/people that have not done anything wrong.

And like I said, not ALL ISP's have dynamic IP addresses



yeah thats true but a ip ban can extend to a small range 1,1,1,879-999
the chances of another IP in that range are the same as winning the lottery lol
but still its a very valid point.