Naughty naughty naughty...
You think, TA, that it would be so simple?
That these stout and resolute stances of loyalty and implausible deniability would sway me, or the readers? You think... that from the moment I, Semper...took an interest in you.. it would be so easy? I've let your lieges in the TAM, Lithium and Mathlord build up the evidence for weeks...
Brdavs wrote:I suppose it all simply comes down on how you define things as "bully", "misbehave" and "lie"...
Shall we start discussing how everything ultimately leads to an infinite regress and solipsism too? 
You can either under the name encompase everything, from one induviduals actions/war banther/demand for repayment in a induvidual incident/writing recruitment threads utilizing "poeitc licensing" etc. OR reserve it for the more systematic practices (0 hit policies, smeere campaigns, massings of people that left your alliance etc.) and the whole empires/alliances modus operandi or how they conduct themselves and what goals do they pursue & declare. Or induviduals deliberatly mislieading of the entire community...
That's beautiful...why don't you ask the TAM why they are at war with Nemesis Sect, and why they turned on Nemesis Quarter, our training alliance... and then get back to me on that point? To be honest I thought the Legion might have been better than to associate themselves with people who so blatantly lie. Is that not one of your propaganda points against FUALL? This entire thought.. leaves me much like one hit wonder, Natalie Imbruglia... I'm torn.So, as far as the latter extreme and guys that pitched in "loling" at TAF first goes...
I gotta lol @ you people heh. Compared to you 2 for instance, noobert by empire association/charming war thread demeanor and Universe by (we all know what), TAF are regular saints.
They laugh, because in everything that is going on, you're meant to be the good, honourable guys.. and well..frankly some of the TTF's members have not been...But, ofcourse, who in SGW is spotless...
Oh! Not many, if anyone.. but then again.. we don't all go round claiming contrary do we now? I have put my hand up and said I am prolly the biggest, meanest git around as far as the forums go.. I pick, belittle and snap at people at will with no justification for it other than it amuses me and idiots deserve it, sorta a double wammy insult for those subjected to my harsh wit and intelligence. People who associate with me, people who join my alliance and act as my friends and allies, do so KNOWING that. I don't claim I am the good guy...or attack others whilst hiding behind the light of a fabricated halo. I stare out from my dark corner of the universe, lazily from a leaned back position on my throne of human skulls playing the devils advocate, though if people did not give me the mistakes and the lies to use.. I wouldn't be able to do it now would I? Like I said.. I maintain all that..but I don't lie, the truth is so much better for all purposes .If ppl went around splitting hairs in threads like these, no alliance/empire I`ve ever heard off would be "worthy" of any recruits...
Oh..again, very true.. but as far as I know, most alliances don't go lying in their recruitment threads or using propaganda that's so straight forward OBVIOUSLY NOT true..of course I thought we were trying to make the forum a better place, telling the truth is one step on that road, don't you think?Least allone the "educating" TLE, "purgatory creating" FUA or the likes of NS, FS, etc. etc. List goes on and is waaay more detailed.
NS took the persona of Sith.. how more obvious do we need to get? Norbe wrote:To be honest Semper, I can't speak specifics about the Massers vs Nemesis war, I was told to stay out of it so I did. Though as you are involved in the war I suspect you know the reasons far better than I do.
To be honest Norbe, the reasons for that war changed so many times, it appears the TAM did not know what they were fighting for, let a lone most of NS. What they are fighting NS for, is irrelevant as far as this thread goes.. what they are fighting NQ for, in what way they are fighting NQ, and how they have conducted themselves in light of this recruitment post IS what we are here to discuss...What I can and will do is to stand by everything that is said in our recruitment post (even though as an interesting story, senior TA members were asked what we should put, O-Neill came along and said "something along the lines off..." and wrote almost everything you see there. So thanks to O-Neill for his contribution there
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That would be a very bad move for your credibility, and a good move for your loyalty and gullibility...but be my guest! ~TÅ Massers are a unique instance of a wartime alliance for TÅ. Historically un-precedented, it is up to the individuals who lead that alliance (in conjunction with the TÅ HC) to find the best ways to achieve their goals. Whatever you or your alliance did (as I said I don't know the specifics), it was poorly advised.
Again.. Irrelevant. The TAM's defeat is inevitable, it is just a matter of time, because it is actually impossible for them to win. We've fought a full, separate war, with plenty of stats thrown about and increased by three members since the start of that 'war' to be frank, it's a separate issue that I would rather address the TA HC about..Let me just remind you that there is a fine line between "being walked on" and "bullying".
Perhaps so..again that fact is irrelevant when the circumstances are discussed, but to be frank, yet again, we're here about lying. Your empire has bullied, there is no denying it, we're talking about you guys lying, not you bullying. We certainly won't be walked on.
Really? That's all I have seen so far! As for the "bullying" claims, you certainly entertain me Semper.
Happy to have been of service, one aims to entertain if only at least myself.. What possible gain could ever arise out of the claims you are making?
Gain? Are you labouring under the impression I am getting anything out of this other than the sheer amusement at the seriousness you people take this game with, and just how easy it is to toy with you all? Who would ever need to lie in this game, anyone with half a brain can just use the facts you all forget about, against you as I am doing so now... the TAM saw fit to attack, the future of this game I have spent hours in, and attempt to trap my friends in a farm fest over pitiful reasons and then you lie through your teeth...how could I resist peeing on your parade with your own contradiction.. this is all TOO funny.. I certainly don't see any, so why would we (be that TÅF as a whole, or as a part) do anything like that?
You have switched points in mid sentence, one moment you're talking about my gain, then you're talking about you... , there be monsters here Norbe...similar mistakes may cost you this discussion so tread carefully matey! From a less selfish perspective, we have all been debating how the future lies for this game for some time. The answer lies with the next generation of players, the small guys who deserve the chance to play for fun and enjoy it. If they don't get that chance, then what is left for the game? We don't want to take that chance away from them, so we wont.
Would you like to elaborate on that more before I reply to it? It can be a double edged sword... and of course we all dislike them. Is this saying it's ok for a player of 100+mill army size account to attack and mass an account 1/20th or less of their size? Does the TA condone those actions?Thanks for spouting more pointless propaganda Semper. I really do love these forums now :S
lol.. yeah, you stand strong there Norbe in the face of opposition. This is not propaganda, its truth and you sure as hell better expect anyone reading this will know that before the end of the discussion. 
Fuall may be a bunch of push overs on a real battlefield, but when I have a point to make, its made...~Norbe~
lithium wrote:duderanch: my post in NS recruitment was a reply of the misleading infos that were being given against TA.
Are you being serious? You're one of the worst offenders of the lot. You got BANNED for it! poor semper, when would u realize that its stargate WARS not bigmouths. wars happens and you know the reason (NS protecting a scamer). also complaining about their army size is funny.
Oh dear god...do you actually read what you write or do you just close your eyes and go nutts? Stargate Wars..so what? WARS? Did you study history ever? Wars are more than just fighting in a physical sense, they are fought as much with politics, mouth and generally words as much as the men who pull the triggers and have their fingers on the buttons...why would their be a forums here if we were to sit in silent, idly holding buttons? The new total war game is called Empire at War, that does not mean you can only play as en empire, or even be at war. We, the players make the game, not the game title...
I'm not complaining, I am stating facts to contradict lies for my amusement. It's pointless and unnecessary to complain...you guys want to attack the Nemesis Quarter, then that's fine.. but don't think there will be no social repercussions now. Do the TA think more than 5 seconds in front of their face? They allowed the TAM to declare on an alliance containing Buck, Universe and ME... how did you think it would go? Or do you just want to save yourselves the inevitable newbie appearance it will bring and stay quiet? 
lithium wrote:said by u makes sense, you said yr a syco.
also semper knows well that this war is ruining his alliance
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Running for the world's most dense fool are we? you're doing a good job... this war is non existant, because the TAM do nothing, they don't do anything ingame (except Qacol) and they cannot defend themselves at all on the forums, I believe steam rolled would be the correct metaphor in describing how it's been going for the TAM. You've done nothing to my alliance, like I said above to Norbe, we have fought another war, gone up a few members, and used plenty of stats since the TAM declared war...we've grown and enhanced ourselves, the proof is in the pudding my boy and you make yourself look worse by coming out with all this nonsense.
IFanyone would like proof of what I have claimed in this thread...
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=138015&start=0enjoy, read. It's all there.. the TAM have walked right into it, and if memory serves Mathlord is a member of TA, as too is lithium. If that thread is not enough, they have probably gone back and edited their post's, but that shows at the bottom. I also add that no where in all this have I said that I, Semper and Nemesis, the empire I am a member of are statues of honour, benevolent or anything of the sort we're down and dirty, we're evil...and we know it.
I don't think there is any more I have to say, any more the TA CAN say to defend themselves...so I am going to sit back, and do what the rest of the forum surely should be doing at you. Laughing.
So.. do the TA lie, have they lied in that recruitment thread...is this another stain on the TTF...YEEEEEAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Fuall, my ID for Naq donations is... 54610 or something... I don't know.. lmao.
(Which I didn't..)