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Re: Opinion on drugs
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 3:09 am
by Mister Sandman
Jack wrote:Mister Sandman wrote:Jack wrote:Mister Sandman wrote:narcotics and any sort of unnecessary drug = Illegal.
Anything over the counter, especially pain killers and even many prescription drugs = unnecessary.
Agreed. Thus, Illegal.
*looks at the bottle of Ibuprofen sitting on his speaker*
ONOZ! I be a criminal!
Personally, I dont take pain killers unless necessary. Head aches, its better to deal with them without panadol. However, if pain killers are prescribed, I have no qualms with that.
Pain, is a good things. Love it. Need it. Couldn't live without it. However, pain for a constantly period isnt good and one should consider talking to a doctor.
Right now, I have a toe which has suffered a drop of 50kgs onto it. A headache amoung other things. Im not going to take drugs, im only going to drink water and have a good nights rest. Why, because usually your body can take care of itself, and is more efficient and permanent than drugs.
Another thing is i dont run this risk of ODing.
Saying many prescription drugs are unnecessary, yes on case by case basis, but not as a whole. And on my case, Im not a wuss, and I wont complain about pain. Just take it as life is. Without pain, we wont have life.
and to some peoples they might need to know weed is not in any sense medicinal or usefull.
Re: Opinion on drugs
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 4:46 am
by [KMA]Avenger
LegendaryApophis wrote:I am personally part of people who are 100% in favour of total ban towards them. Also in favour of drastic policy from authorities, to fight actively dealers and drug distribution, to limitate the most arrival of said drugs, to prevent all damages they do on people. Addiction, heart attacks, brain damages, overdose, violence, black market...
i'm wondering if everyone is also totally against them, unless there are also drugs consumers among debaters who would try to defend their point of view as well...
Forgot to mention, large scale drugs trading pay terrorism..
been away for a week (in hospital) and have only just got back and not had time to read this whole thread but rest assured...i will get around to it soon...
but first this, everyone here has to understand that our govts dont want drugs removed from the streets, they only remove the independent drug dealers, and that's what we hear on the news.
i've just run a general search on google, the title of the search was "CIA plane crashes with drugs on board", and this is the result:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q= ... =&aq=f&oq=i urge you all to run the same search so you can see the results for yourselves.
i suggest you all find out who the real drug lords are before you ask questions like "opinion on drugs".
btw, lets not forget the drug smuggling that went on during the Vietnam war by the CIA, drugs smuggled back into the US in the coffins of dead American soldiers!
Re: Opinion on drugs
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 6:01 am
by Jack
Mister Sandman wrote:Personally, I dont take pain killers unless necessary. Head aches, its better to deal with them without panadol. However, if pain killers are prescribed, I have no qualms with that.
Pain, is a good things. Love it. Need it. Couldn't live without it. However, pain for a constantly period isnt good and one should consider talking to a doctor.
Do you even know what you are arguing about, anymore, or do you just like to "hear" yourself ramble?
Mister Sandman wrote:Right now, I have a toe which has suffered a drop of 50kgs onto it. A headache amoung other things. Im not going to take drugs, im only going to drink water and have a good nights rest. Why, because usually your body can take care of itself, and is more efficient and permanent than drugs.
Kid, I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you about pain. But I will call BS on your statement of 120lbs of whatever falling on your toe. Seriously, who are you trying to fool?
Mister Sandman wrote:Another thing is i dont run this risk of ODing.
So don't swallow five bottles of aspirin at once?
Mister Sandman wrote:Saying many prescription drugs are unnecessary, yes on case by case basis, but not as a whole. And on my case, Im not a wuss, and I wont complain about pain. Just take it as life is. Without pain, we wont have life.
Your case? What are you hiding, princess?
Mister Sandman wrote:and to some peoples they might need to know weed is not in any sense medicinal or usefull.
Canada, Austria, the Netherlands, Spain, Israel, Finland, Portugal, Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington all want to say hi.
Re: Opinion on drugs
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 6:09 am
by [KMA]Avenger
jack me ol chum...you have done it again
Re: Opinion on drugs
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 9:12 am
by Kit-Fox
Mister Sandman wrote:
Personally, I dont take pain killers unless necessary. Head aches, its better to deal with them without panadol. However, if pain killers are prescribed, I have no qualms with that.
Pain, is a good things. Love it. Need it. Couldn't live without it. However, pain for a constantly period isnt good and one should consider talking to a doctor.
Right now, I have a toe which has suffered a drop of 50kgs onto it. A headache amoung other things. Im not going to take drugs, im only going to drink water and have a good nights rest. Why, because usually your body can take care of itself, and is more efficient and permanent than drugs.
Another thing is i dont run this risk of ODing.
Saying many prescription drugs are unnecessary, yes on case by case basis, but not as a whole. And on my case, Im not a wuss, and I wont complain about pain. Just take it as life is. Without pain, we wont have life.
and to some peoples they might need to know weed is not in any sense medicinal or usefull.
If your not a total prick then you wont run the risk of 'OD'ing' as you put it on any drug. If you do manage to OD then obviously you've done something wrong, not the drug. Stop passing the buck and trying to shift responsibility for your actions.
Oh and btw I really do honestly dare you to tell someone with MS or degenerative osteoarthritis that life without pain isnt life.
I would say more at this point, but I fear the mods would take issue with the string of expletives that would issue forth. put midly & i'm really holding back here, your arrogance is outstanding ( and thats not a compliment! )
Re: Opinion on drugs
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 11:35 pm
by Mister Sandman
Jack wrote:Do you even know what you are arguing about, anymore, or do you just like to "hear" yourself ramble?
What can i say? I love myself.Kid, I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you about pain. But I will call BS on your statement of 120lbs of whatever falling on your toe. Seriously, who are you trying to fool?
Im not getting in a pissing contest or even offering one. Just saying, pain is not painful.So don't swallow five bottles of aspirin at once?
Some people do that.... Your case? What are you hiding, princess?
My case, is still valid as the next. Simply put, people take pain medication when they dont needed. Wimps and wuss' \
Canada, Austria, the Netherlands, Spain, Israel, Finland, Portugal, Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington all want to say hi.[/quote]
Try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_cannabis_by_country
Alot say it is illegal, and all 'medical cannabis' is literally a placebo effect. Tho it does alter the mind, to calm them down. But over lil medicinal use and most use is not for medical. Overall, it is useless.
And another thing, the legality in the states in USA, well, it is self explainable.. It is America the worst country in the world.
Kit-Fox wrote:If your not a total prick then you wont run the risk of 'OD'ing' as you put it on any drug. If you do manage to OD then obviously you've done something wrong, not the drug. Stop passing the buck and trying to shift responsibility for your actions.
Seeing that i dont take drung unless 100% necessary, im not shifting the responsibility for my actions. However, some drugs are usless and do more harm then good.Oh and btw I really do honestly dare you to tell someone with MS or degenerative osteoarthritis that life without pain isnt life.
Well it is true, to live you must know pain. Simple fact of life, if you live, you incur pain. So technically i can say that to whom ever i want because everyone is in pain. You only stop feeling everything when you die. 
I would say more at this point, but I fear the mods would take issue with the string of expletives that would issue forth. put midly & i'm really holding back here, your arrogance is outstanding ( and thats not a compliment! )
My arrogance is well placed.
Re: Opinion on drugs
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 12:09 am
by [KMA]Avenger
Mister Sandman wrote:What can i say? I love myself.
tell us something we don't already know!
Mister Sandman wrote:My arrogance is well placed.
i SERIOUSLY doubt you know the meaning of "modesty", so, how did you work that out?
Re: Opinion on drugs
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 12:43 am
by Jack
Mister Sandman wrote:What can i say? I love myself.
Well, atleast someone does.
Mister Sandman wrote:Im not getting in a pissing contest or even offering one. Just saying, pain is not painful.
You're right, I gave you way too much credit there! Surely having a paper fall on one's toe is the worst pain a person could face!
Mister Sandman wrote:Some people do that....
Yes and some people rob banks. Do you expect me to believe that if you go into a bank you might accidentally rob it because other people do?
Mister Sandman wrote:Your case? What are you hiding, princess?
My case, is still valid as the next. Simply put, people take pain medication when they dont needed. Wimps and wuss'
Translation: I am on some heavy painkillers for a stubbed toe, but that doesn't make me a wuss because I need it!
Do you even know what a placebo is?
Mister Sandman wrote:[color=#FFFF00]It is America the worst country in the world.
Says the Australian. HEIL EMPEROR KRUDD!
Mister Sandman wrote: Well it is true, to live you must know pain. Simple fact of life, if you live, you incur pain. So technically i can say that to whom ever i want because everyone is in pain. You only stop feeling everything when you die. My arrogance is well placed.
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Mister Sandman wrote:Just saying, pain is not painful.
It is too, that's why it's called pain!
Re: Opinion on drugs
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:07 am
by Mister Sandman
Jack wrote:Mister Sandman wrote:What can i say? I love myself.
Well, atleast someone does.
[KMA]Avenger wrote:tell us something we don't already know!
Alot of people love me Mister Sandman wrote:Im not getting in a pissing contest or even offering one. Just saying, pain is not painful.
You're right, I gave you way too much credit there! Surely having a paper fall on one's toe is the worst pain a person could face!
Guess what, it turns out it was dislocated :O, but still no pain killers. Mister Sandman wrote:Some people do that....
Yes and some people rob banks. Do you expect me to believe that if you go into a bank you might accidentally rob it because other people do?
Wouldnt put it past a high person. Mister Sandman wrote:Your case? What are you hiding, princess?
My case, is still valid as the next. Simply put, people take pain medication when they dont needed. Wimps and wuss'
Translation: I am on some heavy painkillers for a stubbed toe, but that doesn't make me a wuss because I need it!
Translation: I dont take any pain medication because i dont need it. Some others think, doctors would recommend, but im stronger than everything and dont need it.Do you even know what a placebo is?
[color=#FFFF00]Yep.
Mister Sandman wrote:It is America the worst country in the world.
Says the Australian. HEIL EMPEROR KRUDD!
Better than Bush, Obama and every other government in the world. Mister Sandman wrote:My arrogance is well placed.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[KMA]Avenger wrote:
i SERIOUSLY doubt you know the meaning of "modesty", so, how did you work that out?
I know the meaning of modesty, and for sake of modesty, im modest 
Mister Sandman wrote:Just saying, pain is not painful.
It is too, that's why it's called pain!
I disagree, its only painful if you let it be.
Re: Opinion on drugs
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:10 am
by [KMA]Avenger
i never said you didn't know the definition of the word, but since you have repeatedly failed to show any kind of modesty, i stand by what i've said.
Re: Opinion on drugs
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:12 am
by Mister Sandman
I dont see it necessary to be modest when im right.
Re: Opinion on drugs
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:33 am
by Jack
Mister Sandman wrote:Jack wrote:Do you even know what a placebo is?
Yep.
Then tell me, what is it?
Note: I am only responding to this one point because the rest has been spam and there is no need to spam anymore then I already have.
Re: Opinion on drugs
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:46 am
by Mister Sandman
Jack wrote:Mister Sandman wrote:Jack wrote:Do you even know what a placebo is?
Yep.
Then tell me, what is it?
Note: I am only responding to this one point because the rest has been spam and there is no need to spam anymore then I already have.
Well, I have to assume you know what it is yourself, or else i would say get your own dictionary and read it. Here is a definition:
placebo [plas-see-bo]
Noun
pl -bos or -boes Med an inactive substance given to a patient usually to compare its effects with those of a real drug but sometimes for the psychological benefit gained by the patient through believing that he or she is receiving treatment [Latin: I shall please]
Re: Opinion on drugs
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:21 am
by Cole
Mister Sandman wrote:Pain, is a good things. Love it. Need it. Couldn't live without it.
al...right.
Re: Opinion on drugs
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 6:39 am
by Kit-Fox
Sandman do you even understand what pain does to to the human psyche?
And please dont say something retarded like your the only human immune to the effects becuase your not, no one is and that is an empirical fact as proven by solid research in psychology (ie that the effects of pain affect everyone)
To nutshell it and I will expand on it if you'd like (although something tells me you wont) pain is to your mind what the A-bomb was to hiroshima & nagasaki. Pain and especially constant (chronic) or terminal pain destroys a persons psyche. You become less than you were.
Hence all forms of drugs & treatments that might help manage pain are valid and acceptable, if only for the fact that such treatments help preserve your pschye by essentially creating something akin to the great wall of china between the pain and your psyche.