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If you even call this extortion...

They can either publicly surrender.

OR

Pay 20T.

@Caesar2: I do not call them heroes or anything of the like. I've yet to see anyone I side with extorting but where I see you, you forced the neat word "repariations" on people.

Noobert wrote:@Caesar2: I do not call them heroes or anything of the like. I've yet to see anyone I side with extorting but where I see you, you forced the neat word "repariations" on people.

So what would be my surrender terms if I were to surrender?

Apologize for extorting players, and bullying/black mailing them to see their trade logs. Which of course means, you must stop what you are doing but you will do none of the above so it doesn't bother me.

Dear Noobert, of course you dont see them, they already left the game and your memory is short, but they were fighting for FUALL for years. Problem is, Noobert, and here i point again on few ppl, they were not extorting ppl, they called it warmonging and i remember payments of many millions of UU year ago to them, when 5m UU was like 50m UU today. These players were posted by your allies on forum as "warmonger of year" "most feared player" and many otheres.

My point here is, double standards works perfectly. Im not judging Blackhole, not judging you. But if i see this post and Blackholes war topic i see how FUALL players are !!!AGAIN!!! bulying other players, maybe wanna profit from this and recruit.

Everyone can blame me, noobert you can spell my name as usualy, but i will not change this view. There were alwyas massers and ppl who like to extort. If they were lone wolves like Blackhole, they were called bad players, scumers, etc. But if this kind of player was a part of some EMPIRE (now i wanna say this means not only FUALL, but all empires in whole SGW history) were called warmongers. But final efect was same: "pay for your freedom"

And to repatriation case, well, for some ppl is paying few trills naq less as to admit and post BS just to witdhraw from the war with FUALL. You can ask GunZ why TO declined even the discusion about peace since server war started. I, memento and frazz agreed and i explained GunZ it clearly and i dont have to explain it to you. I think ETL is now OE representative so, ask him or ask GunZ.

My last word here will be:

diferent view on "freedom payments":

1) lone wolf massing = bad person, extorter, scumer
2) empire masser = warmonger

There is a difference Caesar. This was a long time ago, I do not remember this people as I did not read the forum to follow in-game activities. So how should I know? I know for a fact that when there was a misunderstanding with the post by FUALL concerning "payment" for leaving the war, a large amount of players in OE spoke out against that so GunZ had to clarify that it only applied to those who have left the alliance during times of war, or people of the like. Even then, it wouldn't be much.

The difference between "War Monger" and "Extortionist" is simply because those players who were nominated this year for War Monger did not have to extort to get where they are. They didn't have to force people to pay them for money to get the reputation they have.

TO asked to surrender about 6 months ago, and they were declined because FUALL wanted CoTO to go as well as a group package as I recall but this is not for this topic. If you want to discuss it, feel free to PM me because this will be the last I will speak of it in this topic. Same goes for this other nonsense that has nothing to do with this thread.

I simply wanted to give a public announcement to warn future players who could be targeted to not give in but to resist such threats of being sat on if they didn't provide trade logs, or naquadah. Wouldn't you agree?

@Noobert, you maybe didnt play SGW when this was happening at weekly basis, and i didnt mean this year nominations. Well, but its not only you who is offensive to Blackhole. And i wrote in Noobert, am not judging, just posted my view and thought its importand to tell another part of story, those who pretend were evil in past. (not pointing at you, but your allies are full of extorters, check forum archives or contact me via PM, i will send you few links).

About TO right info:
[spoiler]As for TO, sorry but you have very wrong informations. That was only one TO member who started talks with GunZ and Deni, this person was not HC member and after this i was talking with all our HC members and with GunZ and Deni. Nobody from HC asked for peace. I had to write it here even if you asked me to send you PM cuse you posted very wrong information here. Next time be sure to post right one. And feel free to contact frazz, pef or memento, they will confirm what i wrote. And so GunZ i think.[/spoiler]