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it was a little jest at universe, i read the proposals the only reason i didn't post much was because i agree with a lot of what you said in the post, however ill post now my thoughts,

I like the idea of the mini isolated society for the chavs or future criminals or current petty crinimals. A person being a liability in the country rather than a proactive participant to help the country is nothing more than a parasite on the country. I think the main thing holding off the ability to do what you proposed is the cost factor.

About the life sentence being for life, i think that is not really necessary, everybody should have a second chance at some point, that is my belief, and i think people can change. I think the second such sentence should be for life, however the main thing is to provide opportunities for these ex crinimals, no one wants to hire someone who has just come out of 25years of imprisonment. These people are nearly forced to go back into being crinimals by the lack of the opportunities they have for the rest of their life, their fault you might argue but people can change its not an unknown fact. And as for the death sentence im firmly against it, even in jail people can change, even if the person knows he is serving over 100years in jail he can still change even if it is only within the prison.

I agree with the families idea about those who receive state help, perfectly fair.

And i agree with the fact that money making should not be the government's interest in any of these centers.

ROCKY wrote:it was a little jest at universe, i read the proposals the only reason i didn't post much was because i agree with a lot of what you said in the post, however ill post now my thoughts,

I like the idea of the mini isolated society for the chavs or future criminals or current petty crinimals. A person being a liability in the country rather than a proactive participant to help the country is nothing more than a parasite on the country. I think the main thing holding off the ability to do what you proposed is the cost factor.

About the life sentence being for life, i think that is not really necessary, everybody should have a second chance at some point, that is my belief, and i think people can change. I think the second such sentence should be for life, however the main thing is to provide opportunities for these ex crinimals, no one wants to hire someone who has just come out of 25years of imprisonment. These people are nearly forced to go back into being crinimals by the lack of the opportunities they have for the rest of their life, their fault you might argue but people can change its not an unknown fact. And as for the death sentence im firmly against it, even in jail people can change, even if the person knows he is serving over 100years in jail he can still change even if it is only within the prison.

I agree with the families idea about those who receive state help, perfectly fair.

And i agree with the fact that money making should not be the government's interest in any of these centers.

I know however that many people don't read big posts and aren't even ashamed of it.

-Yes, cost is THE problem with that. It would require insane amounts, but if it was to solve half of youngsters criminality, it would be worth it! (in my opinion)

-Well, I was particularly pointing out rapers and pedos, those likely never change. Also serial killers. We don't talk of a woman killing her husband or vice versa because the other cheated or something.
Death sentence, as I said, to worst kind of worse. Those people having killed tens of people are a threat.

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ok, here's a serious reform proposal:

1, get rid of fiat currency's and reintroduce honest money from our Govts so we can abolish interest paid to private banks.

2, audit every single bank and corporation on the planet, make all findings public and prosecute EVERY single person involved in corruption.

3, rework the education system from the ground up focusing NOT on indoctrination as we have now, but an education system that actually teaches things worth knowing such as discipline, honour, morality and justice as well as the more traditional subjects.

4, martial arts should be introduced into schools, for many obvious reasons and benefits.

5, give children a sense of worth by opening up free to use sports academy's all over the nation easily accessible to 1 and all.

6, withdraw from the EU thereby saving billions of £'s every year which are wasted. this will also allow the UK to take back its lost fishery's which were HANDED over to the EU.

7, no politician, judge or public servant shall serve more than a 2 year term unless voted back into office.

8, ANY politician who caught involved in corrupt practices shall serve a 20 year sentence and have all his possessions forfeit.

9, the military should be disbanded and only a 250.000 strong defence force be kept.

10, the intelligence community should be disbanded and prosecuted for engaging in child kidnapping, paedophilia, drug running, slavery. assassinations, acts of state sponsored terrorism and over throwing foreign leaders.

11, emphasis on science and advancement of knowledge in ALL areas of human endeavour should be pushed to the foreground and benefits to be shared every nation and person.

12, stop ALL wars and instead of shooting those we are supposed to be rescuing from tyranny, we abolish their debt and give these people true freedom by removing ourselves from THEIR soil.

13, outlaw ALL forms of GMO and water treatment, thereby allowing people have a brain and THINK for a change.

14, out law the practice of "Usery", anybody found to be practising Usery should be jailed for a minimum of 5 years.

15, people should be allowed to treat themselves by whatever means they want.



i could go on and on but, you get the picture

Sorry KMA but if y ou reduced the army to such numbers and disbanded the 'intelligence' community then you would leave this country open to so much abuse it would simply collapse under the sheer weight of it all.

Plus who would run the ships/planes/subs etc etc if you reduced the military by so much? It takes hundreds of people to man a vanguard sub and keep them at sea and what about the thousands involved in keeping our carriers and aircraft running.

You'd make beggars out of all of them

tho those reforms were obviously aimed at our nation, those were not exclusive to out nation.

if mankind as a whole concentrated on our true enemy...the bankers, and on improving all of us, you will find that a military wont needed...

as for our so called intelligence community, they are nothing more than paedophiles, rapists, murderers and drug runners...

that serves no good for any of us!

[KMA]Avenger wrote:tho those reforms were obviously aimed at our nation, those were not exclusive to out nation.

No thanks! Especially because of option 6...

3, rework the education system from the ground up focusing NOT on indoctrination as we have now, but an education system that actually teaches things worth knowing such as discipline, honour, morality and justice as well as the more traditional subjects.
Erm that sounds biased.

5, give children a sense of worth by opening up free to use sports academy's all over the nation easily accessible to 1 and all.
I don't really see what you mean.

6, withdraw from the EU thereby saving billions of £'s every year which are wasted. this will also allow the UK to take back its lost fishery's which were HANDED over to the EU.
Lol what a GIANT MISTAKE!

7, no politician, judge or public servant shall serve more than a 2 year term unless voted back into office.
Lol.

9, the military should be disbanded and only a 250.000 strong defence force be kept.
I think this is a bad idea as well.

10, the intelligence community should be disbanded and prosecuted for engaging in child kidnapping, paedophilia, drug running, slavery. assassinations, acts of state sponsored terrorism and over throwing foreign leaders.
I don't know who you are talking about...but it sounds really biased and overexcessive.

13, outlaw ALL forms of GMO and water treatment, thereby allowing people have a brain and THINK for a change.
lol

14, out law the practice of "Usery", anybody found to be practising Usery should be jailed for a minimum of 5 years.
Are you crazy???

15, people should be allowed to treat themselves by whatever means they want.
Does it have to do with medicine lol?




if mankind as a whole concentrated on our true enemy...the bankers, and on improving all of us, you will find that a military wont needed...

Bankers our enemies...lol. Might not be our angel guardians yes, but you are mistaken on who's the first enemy. Looks like the counter propaganda worked well on you.


I prefer Universe's reforms proposal.

Jim, i respect your opinions and consider you a friend and will treat you as a valued friend so please don't take any offence, i assure you none is intended...

don't be so naive mate!


i cant remember the name of the person who said it (Sun Tzu maybe?), those who do not know their enemy shouldn't even be on the battlefield...or words to that affect.



the fact you don't even know who and what our leaders and bankers are is troubling for me, because i'm telling you with 100% accuracy and truth, the bankers are the true enemies of mankind.
they are the ones who control ALL the top corporations which in turn control our leaders and Governments. these people are eugenicists, they are an order of death. this is not a joke or some sick over-active imagination, they even admit it!

don't believe me?! ask Universe, she knows

anyways, the world will NOT improve or change and you will be paying taxes to bankers for the rest of your life if the bankers are not brought to justice....


consider this Jim, our Govts charter private bankers to print yours and my nations money, that means we hand over our nations money to private bankers who in turn print OUR money and loan it back to us at interest...that's not a conspiracy theory, fantasy, fallacy, joke or my imagination...that's a fact!


think how dangerous a situation that is.


BTW, when i say the EU i mean the organization NOT the geography.




*i sometimes wonder what it will take to get through all the bull crap and brainwashing before people open their eyes*...


did i say that out-loud?!?!


read or don't read, its up to you, BUT, this is an article written by the billionaire owner of Hustler, Larry Flynt:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-fly ... 64706.html

Know what?
I do not care.

I'm not going to act like a Fox Mulder. I am not Fox Mulder. I can't be Fox Mulder.
I am "nothing".

Much of the suggestions in this thread are quite "Orwellian". It's no suprise though since half of us are skint or in debt and the other half are footballers.

Seriously though. Most intellectual people i debate the matters of reform with do always fall immediately foul of Orwellian/Huxlian leanings. I believe it is because society has finally reached the state of absolute paranoia which we have been perverted towards for centuries. I'm not going into who is doing this perverting, it is only important to recognise that we are in an unnatural state of mind/being.

Our problem, in Britain, is mainly threefold.
1. We are under constant pressure from an unnatural state of governance called The European Union. It causes "Double Think" in the higher classes by appearing to be one thing while causing another. It's hard not to "doomsay" on this matter but i believe that if you are in favour of The European Union because it strengthens your "European" country, subsequently assuring your traditional diversity you'd better spend a bit of time researching The Tri-Lateral Commision. The European Union is simply another smoking gun in the arsenal of Capitalism. Which brings me neatly to point 2.
2. Britain's society is based on Socialism. Not Capitalism. The sooner you learn that the better. For obvious clues on your voyage of understanding take note of the Benefit System, The NHS and The Old Age Pension, these are Socialist by their very nature. Back to the point. Our proud Socialist society which once held us as being the single most charitable Country in the world (and despite our comparative size) is being strangled by Capitalist influences. In answer to those of you who are turning green at this very notion I would like to point out how WE (the people) saved you (the banking system) with OUR hard earned money through taxes. So, now (despite many many good and decent areas of our socialist system being privatised by the fascists during the late eighties/early nineties) the banking system is to be treated as a socialist consideration? The banking system is socially funded alongside the NHS, the DHSS etc etc. But not our buses and trains. At the risk of passion over professionalism in debate; for heaven's sakes man! even the Mail System is constantly threatened but the very fundament of the Capitalist System is being funded as though it's a burning social consideration. It's not. The banks are failing? Sod it. I'm a Socialist and i have no interest in capitalising on anything but ethics and morals. Therein lieth the problem. I can't deny that leaving thousands of innocent people without their savings is wrong wrong wrong. It's immoral and so the bank has strengthened its stranglehold. Publically funded Capitalism, it's perverse by it's very nature. The next Capitalist gainsayer to frequent this part of the forum should mark these words well: If it was not for the Socialist undercurrent of the British people Capitalism would already be dead. A starving leech with nothing left to suck on but it's own bloated neck.
3. We are systematically useless at parenting. It's our own fault, thanks to what i refer to as "The World War" (the one that started in 1914 and ended on or around 3 October 1990) we've not had it easy in this respect. In the early years of the world war we had massive collateral damage in the form of men (i'm not saying at all that women did not lay down their lives so please don't throw that at me, it's simple fact in simple terms). When we finally started to get parenting right (during the sixties) it wasn't long before depression made it awful again. Our parenting skills are directly proportionate to our social stability because as humans we are not very good at treating children impartially to the state we find ourselves in. As a result the seventies were pretty dismal where parenting skills are concerned. Subsequently the eighties were a no brainer. Socially we never REALLY survived the depression of the seventies and the class rifts grew ever wider. The final nail in the parenting coffin is the current trend of child parents. Children having children is the death rattle of society. It is causality in motion - as parents we've failed to instill a sense of just how important our children are into our children! The children do not understand how very important life is and how very important the decision to reproduce is. No amount of telling humans they shouldn't be having babies is going to solve this, it's anyone's inalienable right! What's scariest about this last point is that the causality doesn't end here, it goes deeper, our society has a total and utter lack of respect.

The politicians are stealing money from us, our children are punishing us for our lack of respect towards them and all the while the Oligarchs are gleefully creeping closer to the gold. Thanks to paranoia and a ridiculous notion of self-preservation, we fund their endeavours.

What do i propose? Well, i'm going to limit myself only to the points i've raised, mostly due to sensibility and a little bit of urgency on my part! I've finished my brew.

On the matter of The European Union i believe we should finally give in to "Laissez-faire". Basically the capitalists have been crying into their cornflakes for centuries thanks to governments "meddling in their affairs". Fine. You want laissez-faire? Have it. The European Union can continue with it's capitalist trade manifesto unhindered by State Governance BUT it MUST agree to work both ways. The European Union should not EVER under any circumstance form "policy" for any member state in any matters other than trade. Laissez-faire? You do your job and let the people tell the elected government how to do theirs!
Choose Socialism, or not. no more double think. If you are unlucky enough to be banking with a failing bank weather the storm yourself or jump ship fast. No more taxes spent on saving anything of a non-socialist nature OR no taxes at all! If you lose everything through a bad banking choice i will gladly donate some of my hard earned money to help you back onto your feet but i will not help the soulless bastards who sat by and fattened themselves while you drowned.
Parenting. Pull out of "the west" and subsequently every "western conflict" (obviously some concentrated effort will have to spent on restoring our acceptable foreign policy) while focusing implicitly on our education system and our children. Use our armed forces to keep our own streets in order since the problem HAS elevated to a degree which the police can't rightly be expected to deal with. We (the people) have failed our children. It's not entirely our fault, just mostly. Something drastic has to be done to restore the peace. I'm not talking about shooting teenage yobs but i am talking about utilising our tactically astute ground forces to win our estates back. Stop teaching religion in schools. It's long since ceased to be a healthy subject. Philosophy should be taught to children in place of all forms of religious education, if you can understand the old testament you can understand Kant, no problem. All religious education should be taught (by parental consent) in "religious buildings" e.g. churches, mosques etc. This is the only area i would like to see an Orwellian approach applied. These religious buildings should be audited and infiltrated regularly to make sure the messages they are presenting are faithful to their cause (this one rule for all, find me one religion which teaches violence and i will close your "book". No exceptions to the rule). Beyond this religious education should be a familial matter, a matter of the home. Not a scholarly one. The places where our armed forces are needed to win back our streets should be given positive life skills. Anger management, meditation, philosophy. Help them to be better, happier, more productive people but not in the name of capitalism through advert campaigns and relaity tv (this is clearly NOT WORKING!) but through answering their fundamental questions and providing them to further the answering of these questions with their own belief in what it means to be "being". If they refuse to take part in regular help sessions they should have benefits severely cut. This should be explained in a healthy manor - try explaining how and why we have the benefit system. Help them to understand self and the nature of being.

If aspects of my suggestions are carried out we will begin to move towards an existential paradigm as opposed to our current nihilistic paradigm. Once we stop asking ourselves questions we have no way of answering in any other way but with "nothings" or "nevers" (Sartre - Being and Nothingness) and instead ask questions of ourselves we have the capacity to form healthy answers/feelings to i can promise you will have a drastic reduction in petty crime, violent crime, drug abuse and all other aspects of social degradation and why? Because the cause of all this degradation is basic need. Need of money. In a capitalist society, if you haven't got money you have no worth. You nihilate yourself from worth by notion of your own apparent lacking imposed upon you by consumerist ideals governed by capitalism. Britain's estates, therefore, have a basic need and are worthless. Nihilistic, violent, angry, futile, worthless, needful nothings.

Now try asking me "why?" next time you hear that a "youth" has stolen a vehicle and rammed it into another vehicle killing not only itself but also the mother and two children in the back seat of the other. Why? Because of worthlessness. It's hardly shocking, really. It is in fact a matter of causality and therefore quite logical. If you are a child and you feel worthless, what do you generally do about it? You crave punishment because even time spent on puinishment is time spent and time is money, right? Worth from worthlessness through deplorable behaviour.

-Goo™

Apophis The Great wrote:Know what?
I do not care.

thats your problem right there, you should care and if you took the time to reserach you would care.

Apophis The Great wrote:I'm not going to act like a Fox Mulder. I am not Fox Mulder. I can't be Fox Mulder.

what the hell has Mulder got to do with it?! he is a fictional character, i'm talking about reality!

Apophis The Great wrote:I am "nothing".

everybody has worth, every life is precious, there is no such thing as "nothing" and frankly Jim, i expected more from you





great post Goo BUT, you haven't addressed the problem of the central banking system, IE, the Bank of England/Federal Reserve/IMF, Bank of The World...


what's Your Opinion regarding these corrupt and disgusting institutions?

do you seriously think things will change with those institutions left intact?



btw, the EU should be dismantled/destroyed and exposed as the evil entity that it is.

[KMA]Avenger wrote:

Apophis The Great wrote:Know what?
I do not care.

thats your problem right there, you should care and if you took the time to reserach you would care.
But I don't want to take time to research! What's the point eh? The problems I raised aren't abstracts. Bankers being evil or not, you cannot deny there are other problems than bankers wanting to have control in higher spheres. Eh? Lower spheres need to be "cleaned" first. Why? Lower spheres develop much faster, they reproduce like rabbits, and therefore, the criminals gain power over the lower spheres.

Apophis The Great wrote:I'm not going to act like a Fox Mulder. I am not Fox Mulder. I can't be Fox Mulder.

what the hell has Mulder got to do with it?! he is a fictional character, i'm talking about reality!
And you missed my point!

Apophis The Great wrote:I am "nothing".

everybody has worth, every life is precious, there is no such thing as "nothing" and frankly Jim, i expected more from you

One man standing does nothing you know. Afterall, it's corporations and they are abstracts. If I wanted (I said if lol) to make sure one falls down, another would replace it. It's not like a dictatorship, you kill the allmighty scum and his lieutnants and everything else falls. Yes I am not nothing, I'm currently thinking of writing to my government...or my representant. That more or less follows one of Universe reform proposals, and I am into it for monthes. What is it? Ask for restrictive entry in universities in my country. Yes, I am reactionary? I don't care! At least I would have peace without all those damn parasites . Worth a try to to such request, not like I'm alone to think that, politicians included!

Yes I am not "nothing" like worthless people, but I mean, I am nothing to do something against abstract entities. (IF I wanted to) That was linked with Fox Mulder example you didn't understand. He was something, he was FBI agent which isn't "nothing". He was able to do little aganst what he fought. However, IF I wanted to fight corporations or whatever you call them, unless I get some sort of office power, I am indeed nothing to be a threat to them. That's why I said I am nothing...



great post Goo BUT, you haven't addressed the problem of the central banking system, IE, the Bank of England/Federal Reserve/IMF, Bank of The World...


what's Your Opinion regarding these corrupt and disgusting institutions?

do you seriously think things will change with those institutions left intact?



btw, the EU should be dismantled/destroyed and exposed as the evil entity that it is.

Lol what and would be left eh? Back to stupid (yes I call it stupid!) national countries being isolated from each others? Pffft I rather have a so called evil entity over my head than that!

GhostyGoo wrote:Much of the suggestions in this thread are quite "Orwellian". It's no suprise though since half of us are skint or in debt and the other half are footballers.
I'm proud of my suggestions and don't care if it's Orwellian or something else. Being nice towards a scum and said scum will take opportunity and before you realize, they will have gained "power". Lol "top" footballers don't deserve their wages. They are an anomaly!

Seriously though. Most intellectual people i debate the matters of reform with do always fall immediately foul of Orwellian/Huxlian leanings. I believe it is because society has finally reached the state of absolute paranoia which we have been perverted towards for centuries. I'm not going into who is doing this perverting, it is only important to recognise that we are in an unnatural state of mind/being.

Human nature isn't nice. Dark side of humans develop when they are free or installed in office. Countries became too nice towards them because we didn't know limits with human rights in our own countries.

Our problem, in Britain, is mainly threefold.
1. We are under constant pressure from an unnatural state of governance called The European Union. It causes "Double Think" in the higher classes by appearing to be one thing while causing another. It's hard not to "doomsay" on this matter but i believe that if you are in favour of The European Union because it strengthens your "European" country, subsequently assuring your traditional diversity you'd better spend a bit of time researching The Tri-Lateral Commision. The European Union is simply another smoking gun in the arsenal of Capitalism. Which brings me neatly to point 2.
You think I'm in favour of EU for that? Of course not! I know what's the grand scheme behind EU..and I don't mind some kind of superstate being built. Nationalism is the cause of wars among other reasons, if EU was to overtake states, at least it would be gone. Not that I want states or regions to disappear completly of course. But at least stopping to reason nationally but instead europeanly.
"EU is evil, EU is our enemy", sorry it doesn't work with me. Nothing is perfect, and clearly not returning to primitive "Europe of nations" state that will be a step forward! Reform EU yes, destroy it, and you are likely to find deaf ears from me no matter what you will say after!


2. Britain's society is based on Socialism. Not Capitalism. The sooner you learn that the better. For obvious clues on your voyage of understanding take note of the Benefit System, The NHS and The Old Age Pension, these are Socialist by their very nature. Back to the point. Our proud Socialist society which once held us as being the single most charitable Country in the world (and despite our comparative size) is being strangled by Capitalist influences. In answer to those of you who are turning green at this very notion I would like to point out how WE (the people) saved you (the banking system) with OUR hard earned money through taxes. So, now (despite many many good and decent areas of our socialist system being privatised by the fascists during the late eighties/early nineties) the banking system is to be treated as a socialist consideration? The banking system is socially funded alongside the NHS, the DHSS etc etc. But not our buses and trains. At the risk of passion over professionalism in debate; for heaven's sakes man! even the Mail System is constantly threatened but the very fundament of the Capitalist System is being funded as though it's a burning social consideration. It's not. The banks are failing? Sod it. I'm a Socialist and i have no interest in capitalising on anything but ethics and morals. Therein lieth the problem. I can't deny that leaving thousands of innocent people without their savings is wrong wrong wrong. It's immoral and so the bank has strengthened its stranglehold. Publically funded Capitalism, it's perverse by it's very nature. The next Capitalist gainsayer to frequent this part of the forum should mark these words well: If it was not for the Socialist undercurrent of the British people Capitalism would already be dead. A starving leech with nothing left to suck on but it's own bloated neck.
You don't want that, does not mean it's the same for others. Capitalising (when done properly) is the best source of income you can have. It is an added income to your wage. Or a bank account being nicely enough stored in, will help to buy later, or have a "shield" for bad moments. (not to be excessively used as a shield though, it's bad for economy!)

3. We are systematically useless at parenting. It's our own fault, thanks to what i refer to as "The World War" (the one that started in 1914 and ended on or around 3 October 1990) we've not had it easy in this respect. In the early years of the world war we had massive collateral damage in the form of men (i'm not saying at all that women did not lay down their lives so please don't throw that at me, it's simple fact in simple terms). When we finally started to get parenting right (during the sixties) it wasn't long before depression made it awful again. Our parenting skills are directly proportionate to our social stability because as humans we are not very good at treating children impartially to the state we find ourselves in. As a result the seventies were pretty dismal where parenting skills are concerned. Subsequently the eighties were a no brainer. Socially we never REALLY survived the depression of the seventies and the class rifts grew ever wider. The final nail in the parenting coffin is the current trend of child parents. Children having children is the death rattle of society. It is causality in motion - as parents we've failed to instill a sense of just how important our children are into our children! The children do not understand how very important life is and how very important the decision to reproduce is. No amount of telling humans they shouldn't be having babies is going to solve this, it's anyone's inalienable right! What's scariest about this last point is that the causality doesn't end here, it goes deeper, our society has a total and utter lack of respect.
Oh please not that again! From a religious point of view I might understand. But even. They also need to realize that now with the current chaotic growth of humanity during last century and current, everyone needs to lower their expectation in offspring amount, if not zero it. What you are saying leads us all in the wall. What Universe proposed regarding children is right. People who can handle/afford it doit, those who don't, follow state limits (ie like in China, even if they put it to everyone). Because oh surprise! In our countries (not even mentionning other continents than North America/Europe), guess who are those mostly doing it the rabbit way? The latter of course! Those who can't handle children, and who do them just to make cash off the state. What a bunch of parasites! Sure, not all families exceeding 2 children are like this and for this. I just meant big families in certain social backgrounds.

The politicians are stealing money from us, our children are punishing us for our lack of respect towards them and all the while the Oligarchs are gleefully creeping closer to the gold. Thanks to paranoia and a ridiculous notion of self-preservation, we fund their endeavours.
Youth criminality needs to be neutralized...if that was the kind of disrespect you meant. And I have (costly yes) ideas to solve that. Mentionned one and briefly another.

What do i propose? Well, i'm going to limit myself only to the points i've raised, mostly due to sensibility and a little bit of urgency on my part! I've finished my brew.

On the matter of The European Union i believe we should finally give in to "Laissez-faire". Basically the capitalists have been crying into their cornflakes for centuries thanks to governments "meddling in their affairs". Fine. You want laissez-faire? Have it. The European Union can continue with it's capitalist trade manifesto unhindered by State Governance BUT it MUST agree to work both ways. The European Union should not EVER under any circumstance form "policy" for any member state in any matters other than trade. Laissez-faire? You do your job and let the people tell the elected government how to do theirs!
Choose Socialism, or not. no more double think. If you are unlucky enough to be banking with a failing bank weather the storm yourself or jump ship fast. No more taxes spent on saving anything of a non-socialist nature OR no taxes at all! If you lose everything through a bad banking choice i will gladly donate some of my hard earned money to help you back onto your feet but i will not help the soulless bastards who sat by and fattened themselves while you drowned.
What a BORING and completly UNinteresting EU that would be! I would say abstention in elections would gain 20 points if not more, if it was reduced to that. Going backwards with EU..pffft!
If banks fall without support, 1929 is all over again! You want that to happen? I don't. Yes taxes are annoying. But some high spheres parasites shouldn't be a reason for downfalling of the system. Catching heads of the **Filtered** and the system will be clean for some time before other opportunists and parasites do their way in.

Parenting. Pull out of "the west" and subsequently every "western conflict" (obviously some concentrated effort will have to spent on restoring our acceptable foreign policy) while focusing implicitly on our education system and our children. Use our armed forces to keep our own streets in order since the problem HAS elevated to a degree which the police can't rightly be expected to deal with. We (the people) have failed our children. It's not entirely our fault, just mostly. Something drastic has to be done to restore the peace. I'm not talking about shooting teenage yobs but i am talking about utilising our tactically astute ground forces to win our estates back. Stop teaching religion in schools. It's long since ceased to be a healthy subject. Philosophy should be taught to children in place of all forms of religious education, if you can understand the old testament you can understand Kant, no problem. All religious education should be taught (by parental consent) in "religious buildings" e.g. churches, mosques etc. This is the only area i would like to see an Orwellian approach applied. These religious buildings should be audited and infiltrated regularly to make sure the messages they are presenting are faithful to their cause (this one rule for all, find me one religion which teaches violence and i will close your "book". No exceptions to the rule). Beyond this religious education should be a familial matter, a matter of the home. Not a scholarly one. The places where our armed forces are needed to win back our streets should be given positive life skills. Anger management, meditation, philosophy. Help them to be better, happier, more productive people but not in the name of capitalism through advert campaigns and relaity tv (this is clearly NOT WORKING!) but through answering their fundamental questions and providing them to further the answering of these questions with their own belief in what it means to be "being". If they refuse to take part in regular help sessions they should have benefits severely cut. This should be explained in a healthy manor - try explaining how and why we have the benefit system. Help them to understand self and the nature of being.
Lol I sort of agree with you on army part (well, I'm unsure more likely). But...do you realise it's a right wing idea?Most of people who are more or less agreeing to that, are usually right wing citizens who want more radical way than what state currently offers them. Anyway, I (and those people) agree said army would be placed in "risked" suburbs/neighboorhood BUT not turn into a military state with soldiers everywhere. Only some places need to be "pacified" (lol at the word!)

If aspects of my suggestions are carried out we will begin to move towards an existential paradigm as opposed to our current nihilistic paradigm. Once we stop asking ourselves questions we have no way of answering in any other way but with "nothings" or "nevers" (Sartre - Being and Nothingness) and instead ask questions of ourselves we have the capacity to form healthy answers/feelings to i can promise you will have a drastic reduction in petty crime, violent crime, drug abuse and all other aspects of social degradation and why? Because the cause of all this degradation is basic need. Need of money. In a capitalist society, if you haven't got money you have no worth. You nihilate yourself from worth by notion of your own apparent lacking imposed upon you by consumerist ideals governed by capitalism. Britain's estates, therefore, have a basic need and are worthless. Nihilistic, violent, angry, futile, worthless, needful nothings.
This has always existed. Difference being, medias didn't exist before, and we weren't informed about it.

Now try asking me "why?" next time you hear that a "youth" has stolen a vehicle and rammed it into another vehicle killing not only itself but also the mother and two children in the back seat of the other. Why? Because of worthlessness. It's hardly shocking, really. It is in fact a matter of causality and therefore quite logical. If you are a child and you feel worthless, what do you generally do about it? You crave punishment because even time spent on puinishment is time spent and time is money, right? Worth from worthlessness through deplorable behaviour.

-Goo™

Worthless people don't have to make worthful people suffer. We need to isolate them (and hop! There went my island idea! )


OMG I read AND replied to a big massive post!

did i say countries should isolate themselves?

Jim, the EU is an EVIL organization, just because it should and indeed MUST be destroyed, that does not mean we should not replace it with an HONEST organization for trade and relations with Europe and the other nations of the world.

[KMA]Avenger wrote:did i say countries should isolate themselves?

Jim, the EU is an EVIL organization, just because it should and indeed MUST be destroyed, that does not mean we should not replace it with an HONEST organization for trade and relations with Europe and the other nations of the world.

Destroying is the opposite of creation. However, reforming is the next step of creation.

Think about it.

i have thought about it mate

seriously, you cant reform something as bad as the EU or for that matter, the Trilateral commission, the central banking system or the monetary system we have in place now. all those institutions have to go BEFORE ANY improvements or reforms can be achieved, regardless of the shape of those reforms.

I don't see the EU being "destroyed" anytime soon (it took long enough to build it up!). Being reformed, however...