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okay if your so afraid of losing your precisous miners why not have it if you have no deffense you get no income that turn or atleast half the income that way there are still farms... basically your miners "seal of the mines" and that way it would make more people want a deffense aswell....

mmmm.... maybe.

Thing is, most ME hunters don't bother about their own resources, they just farm other people for them anyway, so it's not really going to be of much help

If miners/lifers can be killed... What's stopping me from training all my uu into AC?

Um, lifer suicide.... ?

Since what is to stop me training them 100m at a time, to get more lifers, to waste on your AC

Sarevok wrote:Um, lifer suicide.... ?

Since what is to stop me training them 100m at a time, to get more lifers, to waste on your AC

Umm... Maybe because if we were at war, I might want you to lifer suicide me? After all, you ARE losing 3x more than I am... And if neither of us have destroyable stats (other than AC), this would benefit me more than you?

Tekki wrote:At the first sign of attack my miners retreat back into the mines and seal the entries to the mines. Then once my defence and sometimes attack and anti-covert units have driven off whichever peon got up the courage to attack me, they send a specific code to the mines that tells them, the miners, it's all safe to come back out to serve their Lady. If my miners don't get that code, they simply sit there and wait. There is more than adequate life support systems installed into my mines to allow that to happen.

You guys obviously need better miners

I read these posts sometimes and realize - I need to use my eyes and read more.. my imagination died years ago..

Kids, stay in school, and chill-lax it's a game - we're just tossing ideas around (no one actually believes this will happen - err, right?)

I sorta like the idea of a defense being left at the home base, when the attacking forces go out hunting for NAQ and UU, else - any noobs come in an steal it all.



Perhaps - if there are no spies and no defense. There should be entries in the attack logs with names attached.. it could show attacks with ??? for the attackers name.

Think about it - there are no spies or defenders back at the base to report "who done did it?" -- ok, I guess their could be video cameras (shoot, started off as an idea)

And you supporters are directly contradicting yourselves...
If 'miners were to die' when your 'home world is undefended', then you should make attack/def/covert planets lose stats as your attack/defend/spy.

yes and if you train all your miners where the heck do you get your income... exactly miners are crucail and would make people need a deffense first and thats exactly wat it is... we need to figure out a way that people who stat mass can have to have something to lose to...

CABAL wrote:Umm... Maybe because if we were at war, I might want you to lifer suicide me? After all, you ARE losing 3x more than I am... And if neither of us have destroyable stats (other than AC), this would benefit me more than you?

You would be receiving no personal income then.. And would have to find farms with at least 10b naq out and no defense to make a profit.

ToToRo wrote:yes and if you train all your miners where the heck do you get your income... exactly miners are crucial and would make people need a defense first and that's exactly what it is... we need to figure out a way that people who stat mass can have to have something to lose to...

Which is pretty much the core concept of this idea. Punish people for not having something to defend their home base with. Heck, even if they say have no defense, then you CAN raid their miners/lifers after 12-24 hours of not having a defensive stat

Sarevok wrote:You would be receiving no personal income then.. And would have to find farms with at least 10b naq out and no defense to make a profit.

pffft. 10bil. Finding farms with a >20bil TIP is surprisingly easy

But the thing is... I know a few people who think miners are a liability, as they give their enemies something to profit from.

Well, atm, the only things not kill-able by direct enemy confrontation are attack units, and miners/lifers. If one or both of these could be destroyed, with even alot of effort, it would make people at least think 2x, before sitting there stat-less

i agree completely

SlimD wrote:

Tekki wrote:At the first sign of attack my miners retreat back into the mines and seal the entries to the mines. Then once my defence and sometimes attack and anti-covert units have driven off whichever peon got up the courage to attack me, they send a specific code to the mines that tells them, the miners, it's all safe to come back out to serve their Lady. If my miners don't get that code, they simply sit there and wait. There is more than adequate life support systems installed into my mines to allow that to happen.

You guys obviously need better miners

I read these posts sometimes and realize - I need to use my eyes and read more.. my imagination died years ago..

Kids, stay in school, and chill-lax it's a game - we're just tossing ideas around (no one actually believes this will happen - err, right?)

I sorta like the idea of a defense being left at the home base, when the attacking forces go out hunting for NAQ and UU, else - any noobs come in an steal it all.



Perhaps - if there are no spies and no defense. There should be entries in the attack logs with names attached.. it could show attacks with ??? for the attackers name.

Think about it - there are no spies or defenders back at the base to report "who done did it?" -- ok, I guess their could be video cameras (shoot, started off as an idea)

This an idea i sorta like but minners are never ment to die it would ruin the game i believe i worked so hard and i have mainly minners

thats a good one too i just think we need a way to make sure we have a deffense... it's kinda boring with just massing a zero stat ya know...

Then dont mass someone with 0 stats then im sure TTF has some kinda stats


Or you could always raid dude