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Pimping D wrote:

dazman wrote:

J I X wrote:

dazman wrote:

GunZ wrote:Genesis is very much still here .

Thus far we have lost about 1/2 our membership, and may well lose some more. I will not attempt to speak for them as to why they left - I leave that to them. From my perspective it was a simple matter of a couple of very popular members leaving , and people that were their friends followed.

Unlike OE and DDE did to them in some cases when they left OE , Genesis will not brand them as traitors or cowards. My view of it is we want members that want to here, and all are welcome to leave anytime without retribution .
We will miss them and we wish them well.

Genesis is still here , smaller yes, but not giving up. We are at war and outnumbered but there is no quit in those of us that are left. Do not count Genesis dead just yet .

GunZ if you were traitors we would have sat on you long ago.

i've seen threads where gunz was called a traitor by OE members

Does that mean he was branded as a traitor by the whole of the empire? No. I think I would know, I am OEHC.

i am pretty sure i have seen atleast 4/5's of the empire brand him a traitor

that doesn't means he is a traitor?
if someone feels betrayed by gunz that doesn't means gunz is a traitor?
and since 4/5 of fuall feels gunz betrayed fuall that doesn't means he is a traitor?
or we need a tribunal to judge fuall feelings?
idk guys just think before u talk if someone is called a traitor u don't need proves for that but like dazman sayed and i am pretty sure he knows what he is talking oe doesn't see gunz like a traitor
and same for dde
i can't say the same for all genesis members but gunz is not in that picture
people who know why gunz left respected his reason but his recruiting of members for genesis wasn't so great manny of his member was fuall ex fuall's ex server war combatants and i am not sure everyone understand it why they left why they was recruit to genesis maybe because they was not so important members to talk about them in convo's or to try to understand their reasons
i am one of that fuall members who don't understand why gunz didn't requested twichy and chunkerjoe to made a properly surrender to dob

Bebita, your problem is you do not pay attention. Seriously man, get in the game or you will drown on that DDE kool-aid you are chugging.

#1 ---- I DID NOT recruit OE, but I did not turn away friends when they asked,
#2 ---- I DID talk to DDE leadership about Joe and Twitchy.
#3 ---- It does not matter . We are at war and I will not surrender.....EVER.
#4 ---- Play the game in the game, you are MUCH better there- every time you post here , you diminish yourself.


Just play the game, and give up the oratorical splashes , you are bad at it.


PS...I still love you

and i still love u but i am affraid your stuborn will trow u to hate this game and quit
because we are dde and we WINN OUR WARS
we have to much power to be equal and we are to much adictive to not claim that right

Pimping D wrote:

dazman wrote:Does that mean he was branded as a traitor by the whole of the empire? No. I think I would know, I am OEHC.

i am pretty sure i have seen atleast 4/5's of the empire brand him a traitor

Lol. 4/5 of Omega do not even visit these forums, let alone post their thougts about ex-members

buck wrote:Gunz is a Fantastic Player and a Great Leader, nor is he a traitor to anyone. I would not count out any alliance that has him at the helm.

Spot on Buck

bebita wrote:and i still love u but i am affraid your stuborn will trow u to hate this game and quit
because we are dde and we WINN OUR WARS
we have to much power to be equal and we are to much adictive to not claim that right

Stubborn perhaps, but only so when I am defending what is right. We did not want war , we tried to avoid it , yet it came . Once it came to us the die was cast mate.In my life I have NEVER have backed down when I was in the right on a thing, and I damn sure will not do it now.

If DDE gets it's jolly's trying to smack down alliances 10% of it's size that is more a comment on DDE than us. You fellas go ahead and fight away and try to break us....you won't. You seem to find your glory trying to break weaker alliances. Not this time.

Strength resides in the mind and in the will and Genesis is fully armed. You will NEVER get a surrender from Genesis . If you want it to end say so. We can all just just say we are done with this stupid thing you guys started

...but Jason will turn the lights off and shut the game down before you ever see me surrender to DDE or anyone else.


And Caprila , I love you

GunZ wrote:

Zod14c wrote:they got owned and saw the light..

ummm....Zod14c. Genesis is still here, and we have not surrendered. That was a silly comment.

was a joke

although it does apply to the question "What's happening to Genesis?" in the sense that "you got owned" - naturally lol, and "saw the light" half the members quit.

You always seem to post after my comments.. methinks you like me?

~ again a joke..

I do like you mate- always have. ... .

Perhaps what you meant is those that QUIT Genesis saw the light ? They needed to go if they did not want the fight.

( Sometimes when you see the light it is a train coming at you )

GunZ wrote:

bebita wrote:and i still love u but i am affraid your stuborn will trow u to hate this game and quit
because we are dde and we WINN OUR WARS
we have to much power to be equal and we are to much adictive to not claim that right

Stubborn perhaps, but only so when I am defending what is right. We did not want war , we tried to avoid it , yet it came . Once it came to us the die was cast mate.In my life I have NEVER have backed down when I was in the right on a thing, and I damn sure will not do it now.

If DDE gets it's jolly's trying to smack down alliances 10% of it's size that is more a comment on DDE than us. You fellas go ahead and fight away and try to break us....you won't. You seem to find your glory trying to break weaker alliances. Not this time.

Strength resides in the mind and in the will and Genesis is fully armed. You will NEVER get a surrender from Genesis . If you want it to end say so. We can all just just say we are done with this stupid thing you guys started

...but Jason will turn the lights off and shut the game down before you ever see me surrender to DDE or anyone else.


And Caprila , I love you

what will be if all server will surrender to dde
no more farms and we realy really don't want that
stay there with how much time is passing our profit against losses are becoming more profitable

Well, let it never be said that Allah has no sense of humour.

Reading you two is on moments aking to going through my chat logs with gunz from a year ago...

So I gotta say that I`m surprised at GunZs stance, you used to have so much good to say about "honorable surrenders" and identified yourself so perfectly with now bebitas stance... Whatever happened heh?

Brdavs wrote:Well, let it never be said that Allah has no sense of humour.

Reading you two is on moments aking to going through my chat logs with gunz from a year ago...

So I gotta say that I`m surprised at GunZs stance, you used to have so much good to say about "honorable surrenders" and identified yourself so perfectly with now bebitas stance... Whatever happened heh?

The difference is that OE did not declare war on much smaller alliances for the specific purpose of domination. In all my time in OE, we had many,any wars, but most all were vs large Alliances /Empires. They were wars of purpose, not wars of choice.
Indeed there can be honor in a surrender , but there is no honor in surrendering to a bully, and I won't . This was a war I did not want , but was forced into . It is time for someone to refuse to be rolled over .

In this case there is more honor in fighting than surrendering -surrender proves nothing, continuing does.

GunZ wrote:

Brdavs wrote:Well, let it never be said that Allah has no sense of humour.

Reading you two is on moments aking to going through my chat logs with gunz from a year ago...

So I gotta say that I`m surprised at GunZs stance, you used to have so much good to say about "honorable surrenders" and identified yourself so perfectly with now bebitas stance... Whatever happened heh?

The difference is that OE did not declare war on much smaller alliances for the specific purpose of domination. In all my time in OE, we had many,any wars, but most all were vs large Alliances /Empires. They were wars of purpose, not wars of choice.
Indeed there can be honor in a surrender , but there is no honor in surrendering to a bully, and I won't . This was a war I did not want , but was forced into . It is time for someone to refuse to be rolled over .

In this case there is more honor in fighting than surrendering -surrender proves nothing, continuing does.

Yet you are in this war by your own choosing.

Enjoy the victim's role you have taken

Deni, very early for you to be drunk .

Either you are ignoring facts or just making them up as you go. I am no victim , and I damn well will not become one.

You might want to reword this post then Gunz cause it sounds like your trying to paint yourself(Genesis) as the victim...

GunZ wrote:

bebita wrote:and i still love u but i am affraid your stuborn will trow u to hate this game and quit
because we are dde and we WINN OUR WARS
we have to much power to be equal and we are to much adictive to not claim that right

Stubborn perhaps, but only so when I am defending what is right. We did not want war , we tried to avoid it , yet it came . Once it came to us the die was cast mate.In my life I have NEVER have backed down when I was in the right on a thing, and I damn sure will not do it now.

If DDE gets it's jolly's trying to smack down alliances 10% of it's size that is more a comment on DDE than us. You fellas go ahead and fight away and try to break us....you won't. You seem to find your glory trying to break weaker alliances. Not this time.

Strength resides in the mind and in the will and Genesis is fully armed. You will NEVER get a surrender from Genesis . If you want it to end say so. We can all just just say we are done with this stupid thing you guys started

...but Jason will turn the lights off and shut the game down before you ever see me surrender to DDE or anyone else.


And Caprila , I love you

That's better.

DDE's aggression was towards 2 of your members that had the choice to either surrender.

You and your so called HC decided to threat DDE with war ... either we left those 2 alone or war is on. That is how you avoid a war

I do like how you conveniently choose to forget that fact. Just as the fact that it was you declaring war on my whole Empire.

Vodka or Rum ?

I was told by DDE leadership both were not on DDE's enemy list, traitor list, or runner list .

09/15/2009 10:17:07 PM GunZ philemon40 Chunkerjoe
09/15/2009 10:17:50 PM GunZ philemon40 id=66352 former Pond
09/15/2009 10:17:57 PM GunZ philemon40 he has applied
09/15/2009 10:18:17 PM philemon40 GunZ one sec.
09/15/2009 10:19:38 PM philemon40 GunZ we have no current problem with him at all.


10/12/2009 6:16:53 PM Jedi~Tank [DDE 2IC] GunZ but twitchy is not on our list anyways
10/12/2009 6:17:02 PM Jedi~Tank [DDE 2IC] GunZ he is on our surrendered players list

For DDE to come back AFTER they join and demand I boot them after you ok'd them is your issue, not mine.