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Re: FUALL VS TTF WAR (WHO HAS WON?)
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:35 pm
by Lithium
Mordack wrote:How can either of you claim to have won when the war is still raging?
FUALL are winning, arguably, but can't claim a full victory until the conflict has been discontinued. To do otherwise is silly.
wise words. couldnt have said better
everything else is Propaganda
Re: FUALL VS TTF WAR (WHO HAS WON?)
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:36 pm
by Suzuk
Mordack wrote:How can either of you claim to have won when the war is still raging?
FUALL are winning, arguably, but can't claim a full victory until the conflict has been discontinued. To do otherwise is silly.
Raging? Come on, Mordack.
Seems you've been gone too long from the "war".
Re: FUALL VS TTF WAR (WHO HAS WON?)
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:38 pm
by Mordack
Suzuk wrote:Mordack wrote:How can either of you claim to have won when the war is still raging?
FUALL are winning, arguably, but can't claim a full victory until the conflict has been discontinued. To do otherwise is silly.
Raging? Come on, Mordack.
Seems you've been gone too long from the "war".
Alright not raging, but happening nonetheless. My point still stands.
And both sides still seem to farm me a lot. *shrug*
Re: FUALL VS TTF WAR (WHO HAS WON?)
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:45 pm
by KSM
You can lose a war in this game?
Re: FUALL VS TTF WAR (WHO HAS WON?)
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:11 pm
by whereub
jason
Re: FUALL VS TTF WAR (WHO HAS WON?)
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:40 pm
by dazman
KSM wrote:You can lose a war in this game?
Only if you surrender, but whats the point in that. you can just sit around with no stats. it's impossible to be "destroyed" unlike a real war.
Re: FUALL VS TTF WAR (WHO HAS WON?)
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:06 pm
by Robe
buck wrote:Victory cannot be achieved by avoiding loss.
No side can win outright unless the other surrenders, FUALL are probally winning it on Hits, Activity, Growth and determination, But TTF dont surrender, therefor victory cannot be claimed.
Mordack wrote:How can either of you claim to have won when the war is still raging?FUALL are winning, arguably, but can't claim a full victory until the conflict has been discontinued. To do otherwise is silly.
I find myself mostly in agreeance with my purple peers Buck and Mordack.
Anyone from FUALL who truly thinks they have won this war doesnt need to post pretending on forums...
They should simply build a peace time defence, leave nox off and stop merlining there remaining prized planets

Re: FUALL VS TTF WAR (WHO HAS WON?)
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:53 pm
by bebita
Robe wrote:buck wrote:Victory cannot be achieved by avoiding loss.
No side can win outright unless the other surrenders, FUALL are probally winning it on Hits, Activity, Growth and determination, But TTF dont surrender, therefor victory cannot be claimed.
Mordack wrote:How can either of you claim to have won when the war is still raging?FUALL are winning, arguably, but can't claim a full victory until the conflict has been discontinued. To do otherwise is silly.
I find myself mostly in agreeance with my purple peers Buck and Mordack.
Anyone from FUALL who truly thinks they have won this war doesnt need to post pretending on forums...
They should simply build a peace time defence, leave nox off and stop merlining there remaining prized planets

done
for your story nobody pretends that they won
just they are better

anyway as for ttf ar just some kids who abuse any bug they find in this game
Re: FUALL VS TTF WAR (WHO HAS WON?)
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:21 am
by Rn5ho
a draw.
Anyone able to stay in war for 1,5+ years and still breathing deserves nothing less than at least a draw.
~H
Re: FUALL VS TTF WAR (WHO HAS WON?)
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:25 am
by Zod14c
Robe wrote:buck wrote:Victory cannot be achieved by avoiding loss.
No side can win outright unless the other surrenders, FUALL are probally winning it on Hits, Activity, Growth and determination, But TTF dont surrender, therefor victory cannot be claimed.
Mordack wrote:How can either of you claim to have won when the war is still raging?FUALL are winning, arguably, but can't claim a full victory until the conflict has been discontinued. To do otherwise is silly.
I find myself mostly in agreeance with my purple peers Buck and Mordack.
Anyone from FUALL who truly thinks they have won this war doesnt need to post pretending on forums...
They should simply build a peace time defence, leave nox off and stop merlining there remaining prized planets

Ive built my peace time def, and im off nox more than i have ever been (obviously not over night) and this is the case for so have many others in FUALL. We are winning, no question, but unless TTF has a total regime change and either tries to compete or surrender this wont change.
People outside of war do not stop merlining their prized planets specially seen as how easy they are to take, and when they do they are taken.
Re: FUALL VS TTF WAR (WHO HAS WON?)
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:34 am
by J-ronimo
I guess this doesn't apply to this topic...
[spoiler]
~MassinForChrist~ wrote:Rules of the Thread:
One Post per person on the Thread! Stating the reasons they believe TTF won, FUALL won or it was a draw. ONE POST ONLY!!!
Moderators please enforce one post only rule!!!
[/spoiler]
Anyways, as known, if spending money on some digits makes Fuall winners, then i am happy for you.
But at the same time i feel sorry for you, for necessity of it...
As long as there will be certain persons involved with their egos and constant self important speeches...seeking something in here that are unable to achieve out of this numbers...this won't end...as they want being dominant and can't come together with some mutual agreement, for the better future of whole game...
(Speaking of terms that Fuall has handed, 2nd time)
Until we all over grow this game and move on with our lives, leaving this game behind, as with such pace, it kills all the joy of a simple game.
Re: FUALL VS TTF WAR (WHO HAS WON?)
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:38 am
by Caprila
I think you are forgetting someone key, whose achievements throught the server war, far outshine both fuall & ttf.
There is, and will ever only be one winner for the server war.
Admin J

Re: FUALL VS TTF WAR (WHO HAS WON?)
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:26 am
by Empy
Off topic posts removed. This is a thread discussing who won the war, very specific. If you do not address that topic your post will be removed and repeat offenders will be given warnings, verbal and board.
~Empy
Re: FUALL VS TTF WAR (WHO HAS WON?)
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:23 am
by bebita
Sarajevo wrote:Off topic posts removed. This is a thread discussing who won the war, very specific. If you do not address that topic your post will be removed and repeat offenders will be given warnings, verbal and board.
~Empy
how can u discuss about a war thats is not over
if u really want to mod close it
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Re: FUALL VS TTF WAR (WHO HAS WON?)
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:48 pm
by [SlayerS_fith]
Brdavs wrote:Some funny qualifications here, such as the abillity to grow in numbers...
Note that in the past few weeks OE took a page out of TF book and dropped considerable, and I mean considerable number of members form alpha and pi, my previous favorite farming grounds.
DDE on the other hand keeps piling dead wood on having zero standards as to whome accept, which makes for a good laugh from time to time & more to farm.
WE had a problem with inactive accounts. sadly they either Vac'd or where removed once i assume control.
Another point i'd like to make, is the expansion of whomever said its the younger gen fighting the older Generation's war after they've left.
this true and false.
WE obviously joined the alliances to fight the toher "enemy" empires for one reason or the other.
neverless to say its True when people say neither side has won otherwise their would be a victor by now correct.
the inside Gos on the battle front as ive Seen it tho for those in the public goes a lil like this.
TTF still hvae numbers. out of those numbers 20% (if lucky) are still fighting the battles. and farming is keeping them in the game agsint fuall.
many accounts on both sides have 0 defense. but where that lacks FUALL overall contains more power and stats then TTF whom resort in the "sneaky gurilia" warfare styles. saldy this is a moduel of the game and a tactic thats imo low and a pain in the ass lol... (plz build some nice defenses for me.. iz bored looking at Defense action: 0 )
I think the original Terms of the War as to why it started should be revised.
if the goals to these are basicly completed then an agreement shoudl be resolved around those.
besides. This war.. IS.. KILLING. the game... not just for those inside it. but out side it. TTF and FUALL im sure Both are eager to engage in otherconflicts and have Fun wars. for what started off as a Hobby only to lead into habbit.. Thats where i draw the line.